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Barack Obama: "Aliens are real."

I think all the aliens are in Antarctica
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Aren't you guys tired of the same points that get trotted out ad nauseum everytime this subject comes up? "Universe is big life has to exist elsewhere! Yes but they can't get to us because universe is big" and round and round we go.
 
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Aren't you guys tired of the same points that get trotted out ad nauseum everytime this subject comes up? "Universe is big life has to exist elsewhere! Yes but they can't get to us because universe is big" and round and round we go.

But that's actually the case. Distances are absolutely insane and even with light speed technology going in the nearest star is ~4 years.

Voyager leaving solar system:

it will take the Voyager 1 and 2 probes approximately 30,000 to 32,000 years to fully exit the Oort Cloud. While the probes entered interstellar space in 2012 and 2018 respectively, they will take another 300 years just to reach the inner edge of this distant, icy shell surrounding our solar system
 
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Analogy not good enough.

The average sandbox has 3 to 400 billion grains of sand.

The best scientific estimate is hundreds of sextillions to septillions of planets in the known universe.

All the beaches on planet earth have approximately 100 sextillion grains of sand combined.

You know for goddamn sure, even without checking, that there has to be at least 1 grain of gold in 100 sextillion grains of sand.
Sure it is.

If aliens are around, just prove it. That's like someone claiming theyre a billionaire. Ok, easy to do. Just prove to everyone they got tons of cash and investments. It's not up to people to disprove it. It's up to the claimer to prove it. No different then a court of law.

Even if there does exist aliens on Planet Yahoo 10000 light years away, who the hell cares in any practical way. Humans and an alien planet are going to communicate 10,000 light years apart?
 
So many of these podcasters are shit interviewers. I realise that he probably just means it in the "the odds are there's almost certainly something else out there" way. But how does him saying that not at least get a follow-up question?
 
Sure it is.

If aliens are around, just prove it. That's like someone claiming theyre a billionaire. Ok, easy to do. Just prove to everyone they got tons of cash and investments. It's not up to people to disprove it. It's up to the claimer to prove it. No different then a court of law.

Even if there does exist aliens on Planet Yahoo 10000 light years away, who the hell cares in any practical way. Humans and an alien planet are going to communicate 10,000 light years apart?
I wasn't arguing whether we would be able to reach or communicate with them, I was arguing that it's mathematicaly impossible for there to not be life outside of our solar system.

We'll probably never make contact with any intelligent life outside of our own, but I would certainly care to know whether we're alone or not.
 
Don't know what, but there's something there, that's for sure, for the pope and world leaders to visit there.
According to James Cameron, they're in the abyss.

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I remember hearing that before Google Maps censored that area of Antarctica that there were some weird stuff you can find using Google Maps. I remember seeing a downed UFO, a big hole in the ground, pyramids cover in snow etc. It was crazy stuff
 
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There is no way we are there only intelligent life in this universe. A lot of people don't realize how vast our cosmos is. We have billions and maybe trillions of galaxies which each have billions of stars.

Even if intelligent life is extremely rare, I believe it exists somewhere out there and we are not the only ones. Again, I'm referring to intelligent life.

I think there is life elsewhere.

I am more skeptical that there is life we can communicate with.
 
Not knowing what he meant. I assume he meant, that they are reasonably assured there is other life in the universe. OR maybe they are hiding proof of some radio signal or something else, like the rumored tower on a Mars moon.

I used to believe in Roswell and hidden aliens. But I somehow doubt it. I do think they know 1000% percent more than what they share with the public.
 
I remember hearing that before Google Maps censored that area of Antarctica that there were some weird stuff you can find using Google Maps. I remember seeing a downed UFO, a big hole in the ground, pyramids cover in snow etc. It was crazy stuff
Check out Bouvet Island, near Antarctica. Google Maps has blurred it out.
 
I know this thread was made in jest but, this is one of the most fascinating interviews about the subject :



This is the full one :


Before the usual mockery starts, if you're interested in this kind of topic, i urge you to to watch the full interview.

I'm not saying I believe this person, just that the whole interview is really fascinating...

I watched the first video just now, and hadn't heard of this story or Dan Burisch. If he's lying, he's a pretty convincing liar. Only a few things made me question the validity of what he's saying. And if he is lying, I wonder what the goal would be. Cool, hard sci-fi story regardless.

They're just demons. And no, I'm not joking.
Demons in the Christian sense, or something else?

I think all the aliens are in Antarctica
It's certainly fishy. Governments across the world agree Antarctica will be the only unclaimed piece of land on Earth because they totes want all the bestest scientists from across the world work together in peace and harmony for the betterment of mankind.

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The 2020s are too much man
I remember reading an article around 2009 and I really wish I could know what it was, but it was some conspiracy theorist website or article about conspiracy theories that said that the New World Order would have to be ushered in by everything happening at once, world war 3, pandemics, 60s style social upheaval and "aliens landing on the white house lawn" so that in the chaos people would be too confused to resisit.

Looking back at the years since then certainly makes me go "hmmmmmmm"
 
He's probably trolling. He says they're real and adds no explanation on how he knows this. But it would make sense not to tell the POTUS this information.

The POTUS is a temporary position and wouldn't need to know.
Are you joking? there should be no information that the POTUS doesn't have access to (he may choose to know or not)
 
Are you joking? there should be no information that the POTUS doesn't have access to (he may choose to know or not)
I debate this one. On the one hand, POTUS should be the most informed guy in the room on specific topics.

On the gripping hand, our ability to elect folks who can manage that type of information is.......limited.

I feel like the real "secret even from POTUS" info is all the shit the CIA has been doing, assassinations, burying nukes in foreign capitals, stuff like that. I think the really nefarious shit is so hidden in layers of bureaucracy no one is really sure of it anymore. Is anyone left who really knows who and what happened with JFK or Gulf of Tonkin, for example? It's been 60 years, anyone high up is dead or befuddled by now.
 
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According to James Cameron, they're in the abyss.

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With all the NAVY reports I would be inclined to believe that. If they came from outer space, it's the best place to hide for sure as we suck big time with depths.

I remember a neat theory on it

Earth would have been "infected" eons ago by a massive autonomous factory in the ocean. Heavily auto defensed. Uses its resources to print AI drones. Self-replicating Von Neumann probe/drone factory. Probably the by-product of an ancient advanced civilization that sent swarms of these all over the galaxy to set up on planets, gather resources, sends out progress signals and alerts with drones to the original civilization, which might be extinct. It continues to evolve/grows and until the resources are depleted or the planets' inhabitants fight off the pest.
 
But that's actually the case. Distances are absolutely insane and even with light speed technology going in the nearest star is ~4 years.

Voyager leaving solar system:
There's a thing called space time dialation. Space will shrink when the travel speed increases. It would actualy take a few minutes to reach alpha centaury at 99.99999% the speed of light. Something on those lines.
Well this is according to Einsteins relativity theory.
 
There's a thing called space time dialation. Space will shrink when the travel speed increases. It would actualy take a few minutes to reach alpha centaury at 99.99999% the speed of light. Something on those lines.
Well this is according to Einsteins relativity theory.

For travelers that may be the case. But from earth POV it would be 4 years, 8 years before they return.

Interstellar uses this as a plot device but with black hole instead of high speeds.
 
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There's a thing called space time dialation. Space will shrink when the travel speed increases. It would actualy take a few minutes to reach alpha centaury at 99.99999% the speed of light. Something on those lines.
Well this is according to Einsteins relativity theory.
People often talk about speed and distance being the only/biggest hurdles (not talking about you). Personally I wouldn't want to travel such distances at those speeds knowing that even a dust particle will hit like a nuclear warhead lol.

Man it's gonna be a long ass time before we're gonna see cool shit like this. Doubt even my grandkids will live to see us achieve anything even remotely close to that.

Edit: Then there's the fact that we're barely allowed to have mass at those speeds right? Fuuuuuck
 
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There's a thing called space time dialation. Space will shrink when the travel speed increases. It would actualy take a few minutes to reach alpha centaury at 99.99999% the speed of light. Something on those lines.
Well this is according to Einsteins relativity theory.
I still question how this would be perceived by the travelers. Comparing decay rates for atoms or whoever they measure this effect now is one thing, but for the complex humans IN that ship, pushed to near light speed, I'm not sure they would see the outside world zip by.

Obviously a completely academic question given our current (lack of) ability to accelerate anything to even a small fraction of light speed outside of a particle accelerator, but I still wonder. Fun to read sci-fi that takes it into account though, makes for a very bizarre experience for the traveler.
 
Project Blue Beam in full effect.

Project Blue Beam conspiracy is actually a conspiracy created by the CIA. Its purpose is to make people believe that aliens are not real. That way, if something slips through the net, Project Blue Beam will be used as a reasoning from the Internet hive mind, keeping the alien knowledge fully in the dark.

It's a created cover up for a cover up.

It would actualy take a few minutes to reach alpha centaury at 99.99999% the speed of light. Something on those lines.
Well this is according to Einsteins relativity theory.

Alpha Centauri is roughly 4.37 light-years away. Traveling at that speed would take 4.37 years and a few minutes.

To do it in seconds, you'd need a worm hole, or specifically an Einstein-Rosen Bridge.
 
I still question how this would be perceived by the travelers. Comparing decay rates for atoms or whoever they measure this effect now is one thing, but for the complex humans IN that ship, pushed to near light speed, I'm not sure they would see the outside world zip by.

Obviously a completely academic question given our current (lack of) ability to accelerate anything to even a small fraction of light speed outside of a particle accelerator, but I still wonder. Fun to read sci-fi that takes it into account though, makes for a very bizarre experience for the traveler.
This travel would not apply to humans but to some hipotetical alien life form.
 
This travel would not apply to humans but to some hipotetical alien life form.
Well, assuming they function under anything like the physics we have in our solar system, the time dilation effect would presumably still apply, be it organic carbon based, some sort of silicone base, or even crystalline or plasma based entities since movement of atoms, electrons, and what not presumably drive ALL 'life'. I guess you could have some entity using neutrinos or composed of mass-less 'dark matter' that can somehow interact with our universe but for all practical purposes, the light speed barrier SHOULD apply equally to all matter and light based systems.

I don't really think worm-holes exist, other than as exploits of a simulation system, if we are in one. I also don't really ascribe to higher dimensional spaces either, at least in the sense that we could ever traverse 3D space using a 4D or higher connection.
 
Project Blue Beam conspiracy is actually a conspiracy created by the CIA. Its purpose is to make people believe that aliens are not real. That way, if something slips through the net, Project Blue Beam will be used as a reasoning from the Internet hive mind, keeping the alien knowledge fully in the dark.

It's a created cover up for a cover up.
I don't believe they're "interstellar" aliens. Nor "aliens" at all.
 
As soon as I watched that interview, I knew the internet would take this out of context and present this as "Obama said aliens are real". I fucking knew it.
 
Another nothing statement on aliens. They haven't been to earth retards.

If there is intelligent life besides us in the universe. They are just as alone as we are.
 
As soon as I watched that interview, I knew the internet would take this out of context and present this as "Obama said aliens are real". I fucking knew it.

It doesn't help when Obama has been so wishy-washy about this shit in the past.

 
The way they take a strong stance and tell us "I can't reveal anything" is telling. Not a "no" but always "you can't be allowed to know the truth" stance.





In the Age of Disclosure doc, one of Bush's cabinet members admitted bush was considering telling the world we are not alone, but 911 happened shortly after.
 
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