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[angelic]

Best thing I ever did on Black ops 3 was delete my map packs, so they dont stop me getting games.

 

[TetraGenesis]

Water has wet.

I wonder if they'll release MW:R from IW's clutches after WW2 comes out?

 

[Kalentan]

Ugh, you guys. Stop defending a poor corporate pricing structures. You are so conditioned to "gotta have my Call of Duty maps" that you don't even care whether they're giving you good value.

It logically makes zero sense that a full game can be had for $60, yet all you get from a Season Pass are some maps for $50. A tiny fraction of the time and effort went into that Season Pass compared to the full game, yet it is 83% of the cost for consumers?
You can ask for better pricing. You don't have to agree to buy what Activision is selling. That would be the market at work, and I guarantee Activision would reduce the price of the Season Pass or eliminate it entirely consumers required so.

This defeatist attitude of "but that's what it costs" is why they keep charging $50 every year for it, because you'll keep happily paying it.

If you want to keep paying it, that's fine, but understand why others don't see the value there, and why they don't appreciate the $50 pricing of the Season Pass.

Man step off your high horse.

Sorry but until Free DLC gives more value than paid then to me, it's worth it.

Maybe the price could be better, but I easily get $50 worth of my time with the DLC. Hell, I spend more time with the DLC sometimes than games I paid more for.

I don't enjoy getting an extremely little amount of free content over the year. Hell it's worse when in something like Titanfall 2 some of the free maps are just re-release of the previous games maps.

 

[Mr. Giggles]

Im not surprised as long as they keep making money they'll keep it going. All my CoD PSN friends are hooked on this, same with BF premium.

 

[Foxy the Fox]

I hoped to be more like Titanfall 2 and the new Battlefront II but I guess that the revenue stream in those Maps DLC are too attractive and the "free maps" is still an unproven business or some stuff like that.

Disappointed.

 

[BigEmil]

And it won't stop until fools stop allowing it by buying into that shit.

Pretty much, shame :/

lol season passes are so retro

I don't mind Season Pass just that for online splitting i can't accept, for offline content i don't mind Season Pass..

 

[old manatee]

lol season passes are so retro

 

[IgotElbows]

It will be more shocking when COD DOESN'T have a season pass.

 

[woahitsshant]

Only problem is Call of Duty is - since Advanced Warfare - stuffed to the brim with both season pass content and microtransaction lootboxes. Only game where it is not this or that, but both.

Had they remained cosmetic only, it wouldn't have been a problem. I'm hoping they're able to right the ship in that regard.

 

[Nokterian]

It does not and people really should learn that. Matchmaking for any mode like team deathmatch or hardpoint will throw you in a DLC lobby if it can find enough players with DLC to create such a lobby, else matchmaking creates a vanilla lobby. the experience is seamless and no trouble for both kinds of players (with or without DLC).

This is not a game where DLC maps are dead shortly after arrival (Battlefield) or vanilla players have issues without DLC. Watch any stream of Black Ops 2 backwards comp. to confirm.



Sony has the franchise looked up for many, many years.

It still fragments players between DLC and Original no matter what.

 

[Rated-Rsuperstar]

Splitting that 20 million user base. How will I ever find a game of team deathmatch?

 

[zsynqx]

Call of Duty has a Season Pass...

...in other news water is wet

Well...

 

[wolgoen]

Although I am looking forward to some screenies and gameplay for this one. Happy they are going back to WW2 finally.

 

[the anime man]

Boo.

 

[shanafan]

Ugh, you guys. Stop defending a poor corporate pricing structures. You are so conditioned to "gotta have my Call of Duty maps" that you don't even care whether they're giving you good value.

It logically makes zero sense that a full game can be had for $60, yet all you get from a Season Pass are some maps for $50. A tiny fraction of the time and effort went into that Season Pass compared to the full game, yet it is 83% of the cost for consumers?
You can ask for better pricing. You don't have to agree to buy what Activision is selling. That would be the market at work, and I guarantee Activision would reduce the price of the Season Pass or eliminate it entirely consumers required so.

Adding 16 maps is a tiny fraction of time and effort?

 

[AlexFlame116]

Well...

So basically water is wet (in our perceived notion of reality and senses).

 

[Alienous]

Ugh, you guys. Stop defending a poor corporate pricing structures. You are so conditioned to "gotta have my Call of Duty maps" that you don't even care whether they're giving you good value.

It logically makes zero sense that a full game can be had for $60, yet all you get from a Season Pass are some maps for $50. A tiny fraction of the time and effort went into that Season Pass compared to the full game, yet it is 83% of the cost for consumers?
You can ask for better pricing. You don't have to agree to buy what Activision is selling. That would be the market at work, and I guarantee Activision would reduce the price of the Season Pass or eliminate it entirely consumers required so.

This defeatist attitude of "but that's what it costs" is why they keep charging $50 every year for it, because you'll keep happily paying it.

If you want to keep paying it, that's fine, but understand why others don't see the value there, and why they don't appreciate the $50 pricing of the Season Pass.

Ok, so you can make an argument that a full Call of Duty release shouldn't be $60. They make a hefty profit, so why shouldn't it be cheaper? Hell, why shouldn't it be more expensive? Because "that's what it costs"?

Your premise is based on $60 being justified by the initial release, which is debatable. You're also comparing apples to pears - Seasons Passes sell less than the games they belong to, that's an inherent limitation of them. The content that comprise Season Passes costs money to make.

It isn't as cut and dry as 'it requires less effort, ergo it should cost less'. It might be a case where investing in the development resources to enable a Season Pass, considering that it appeals to a fraction of the base audience, is only viable if the cost of the Season Pass is adjusted to compensate. Or, perhaps it's more clearly stated this way: the content has a much smaller potential audience than the base game, and therefore may require the premium cost to make it a worthwhile investment.

Edit:
And the market is at work. People routinely vote with their wallets that they are willing to pay $50 for more Call of Duty. They do it every year.

 

[piccio_ssl]

the steelbook is beautiful though

 

[Bergerac]

But I already have COD2.

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

Activision made bank with past season passes from Infinite Warfare and Black Ops 3. They have no reason to stop.

 

[janoDX]

Of course.

How would be the able to explain to their investors that they abandoned a winning strategy? The season pass concept has to prove untenable first, and with a large audience that are are happy to make that purchase, and no signs of the community split being detrimental to player experience and retention, they have no compelling reason to go with free DLC.

They're making more money from microtransactions than season pass.

 

[Alienous]

They're making more money from microtransactions than season pass.

And they'd be making less money with just the microtransactions.

 

[Caffeine]

if I'm understanding the concept of season pass, it is just preordering dlc?

4 dlc packs seperatly = $60
game + season pass is $60+$50 = $110
Hardened edition is game ($60) + season pass($40) for $100

so you are essentially saving $20 on dlc. But you are going in blind before seeing what it is.

 

[Woetyler]

Season Pass and Micro transactions more than any game before it watch

In a WW2-esque game i'm sure they'll find a way to make supply drops and micro transactions work.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Ugh, you guys. Stop defending a poor corporate pricing structures. You are so conditioned to "gotta have my Call of Duty maps" that you don't even care whether they're giving you good value.

It logically makes zero sense that a full game can be had for $60, yet all you get from a Season Pass are some maps for $50. A tiny fraction of the time and effort went into that Season Pass compared to the full game, yet it is 83% of the cost for consumers?
You can ask for better pricing. You don't have to agree to buy what Activision is selling. That would be the market at work, and I guarantee Activision would reduce the price of the Season Pass or eliminate it entirely consumers required so.

This defeatist attitude of "but that's what it costs" is why they keep charging $50 every year for it, because you'll keep happily paying it.

If you want to keep paying it, that's fine, but understand why others don't see the value there, and why they don't appreciate the $50 pricing of the Season Pass.

I understand that others don't see the value, that's why they don't buy it. But others do. And you were the one making generalizations and treating opinion as fact, not me.

And explaining why there is a value in a season pass for some people is not "defending the corporate structure".

 

[Caffeine]

In a WW2-esque game i'm sure they'll find a way to make supply drops and micro transactions to work.

they did in mwr

 

[daffy]

expected, but now that EA is moving away from this I hope the next CoD will as well (though I doubt it)

In for a rude awakening when Battlefield 2 is announced lol

 

[Floody]

Not really surprising, I'm hoping they chill on the loot boxes, but we all know they won't, won't support it if they continue selling weapons though.

 

[Toa TAK]

Season pass is fine at this point for COD. Most people who play it are bound to nab it anyways. As a One owner this just means I'm going to be waiting another month for the maps.

I'm more interested in seeing what the bonus mode will be, if it's good, then the wait is gonna kill me. If not, no biggie on waiting for more multiplayer maps.

 

[iRAWRasaurus]

In for a rude awakening when Battlefield 2 is announced lol

Battlefield 2 came out years ago.

 

[Bizzquik]

And it would almost be acceptable were it not for the horrendous amount of micro-transactions.

I get that video games are a business, but Activision doesn't even pretend that they will stop at nothing to bleed every lost dollar they can out of this IP.

I moved on from Black Ops 3 long before the season pass maps even started coming out, and I have yet to touch Infinite Warfare.

 

[SmoothRunningGun]

I wanted to make this comment about Destiny 2 as well...

It's pathetic that we learn about the promotions and bundles that they want to sell us before they even show us gameplay.

Edit: Ok, sorry It's a leak. And i didn't know about gameplay tomorrow. This is more of a Destiny 2 rant that is overdue.



Is this really happening that much? I hope so, but really?

Just don't preorder. Alot of us destiny players wanted to know that it would be supported properly with new content.

 

[The Last Wizard]

In for a rude awakening when Battlefield 2 is announced lol

Pretty much.

I wouldn't have a problem with this if they didn't do the over the top micro transactions:/

 

[AlexFlame116]

Battlefield 2 came out years ago.

Battlefield TWO. That's what they're gonna call it.

 

[Woetyler]

they did in mwr

Yeah, as sad as it was, it's doable in a "modern"-esque game. But in a WW2 era I can only imagine the route they'll take to take more money from people.

 

[constantstatic]

Splitting that 20 million user base. How will I ever find a game of team deathmatch?

You must be out of touch cod doesn't show the number of online players anymore due to how small the player base is. The days of seeing even 100,000 players in matchmaking is long gone. Cod still has a healthy community but its a fraction if the past player counts.

Everytime a map pack comes out connections to player get worse. I have owned every cod and season pass since they started season passes.

 

[hydruxo]

Activision will be the absolute last one to ditch season passes. They likely don't give two shits about dividing up the player base either, sadly. Still can't believe they charged for the CoD: MW Remaster map pack that is almost a decade old instead of including it with the game.

 

[DOWN]

Hopefully this is the last one ever. Thank god companies are ditching this. BioWare kicked it off with Mass Effect 3's model.

 

[Falchion]

Not surprising but still disappointing. I hope the base maps are good because that's all I'll be playing.

 

[Tecnniqe]

I am shocked, SHOCKED that the game have a season pass (because fuck the player base and splitting them cause give me money) and I'm severely shook that they make PlayStation user get more time to provide valuable beta feedback in order to fix the game for the purpose that is beta.

 

[Triggerhappytel]

I expect both a season pass and loot crates up the wazoo.

 

[nealwinter]

Ehhh I expected it, not a huge deal.

 

[HighResTomato]

Another rental for me.

 

[Ravi_elite]

would rather see games embrace season passes again and get rid of loot boxes/microtransactions... however..knowing them they will have BOTH...which is ridiculous...


if I want say a metallic gun skin i should either
A) have an objective to unlock it

B) be allowed to directly pay for that

C) included in a season pass


I should not however have to open 40 random loot crates that cost money that give me random crap I never wanted..

 

[Diablohead]

AAAAANNNNDD Hype crushed. Keep that shit. So sick of split player bases. Sick of buying packs only to see them empty months later.

COD games are very much the 'flavor of the week' games nowdays, play it at launch before most people run off to another new shooter weeks later.

 

[GasProblem]

COD games are very much the 'flavor of the week' games nowdays, play it at launch before most people run off to another new shooter weeks later.

They are? Blops 3 is still pretty active.

 

[The Artisan]

4 dlc packs seperatly = $60
game + season pass is $60+$50 = $110
Hardened edition is game ($60) + season pass($40) for $100

so you are essentially saving $20 on dlc. But you are going in blind before seeing what it is.

so it's preordering dlc at a discount. but i mean, how is it blind if you know what it is beforehand?

 

[AHA-Lambda]

It will be more shocking when COD DOESN'T have a season pass.

This. Even with EA catching on to the trend of not splitting player bases for money, CoD is still a few years off from doing the same.

They just have no need to do so.

 

[Toa TAK]

COD games are very much the 'flavor of the week' games nowdays, play it at launch before most people run off to another new shooter weeks later.

Have you not seen how many people rushed to BOII?

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

So basically water is wet (in our perceived notion of reality and senses).

that's like saying hot stuff burns itself!