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[BennyBlanco]

Killed the shoulder buttons on my 8bitdo Ultimate 2 last weekend playing Luna Abyss.
Both shoulder buttons stick, no longer bounce back, something inside is broken, a spring or plastic.
I believe this has been the quickest to die of all the controllers I have owned.
Not sure I want the 8bitdo 3E anymore.

Gamesir G7 Pro is too clicky and several reviews say the D pad is awful.
Steam Controller no email from the preorder yet. I don't know if I even want it anymore, reports about rumble being borked this morning.

I'm probly going to simply get another Series Elite 2 Core controller, I know I'll get several years out of it at least. I can repurpose the old zipper case, charge dock and paddles.

Email them and they'll probably send you a replacement. Every 8bitdo controller Ive owned has been a tank.

 

[Giallo Corsa]

Killed the shoulder buttons on my 8bitdo Ultimate 2 last weekend playing Luna Abyss.
Both shoulder buttons stick, no longer bounce back, something inside is broken, a spring or plastic.
I believe this has been the quickest to die of all the controllers I have owned.
Not sure I want the 8bitdo 3E anymore.

Gamesir G7 Pro is too clicky and several reviews say the D pad is awful.
Steam Controller no email from the preorder yet. I don't know if I even want it anymore, reports about rumble being borked this morning.

I'm probly going to simply get another Series Elite 2 Core controller, I know I'll get several years out of it at least. I can repurpose the old zipper case, charge dock and paddles.

Sorry to hear that man, it's a bitch

Hear me out though. The bumpers on Xbox controllers are s-h-i-t-e (even on the Elite), and strangely enough the DualSense, for all its issues, is actually pretty solid when it comes to bumpers and face buttons.
What I would do in your case is just get a plain old DualSense and mod or replace the thumbsticks with TMR ones, and you're basically set. That's what I did, because I used to have the same headache, and I couldn't be happier. The main issue with the DualSense (stick drift) gets effectively solved that way.
Then spend another 10 Eurodollars on a higher-capacity battery, swap it in, and you're golden. Battery life is the DualSense's second weak point, so fixing that rounds it out nicely.

PS : No one will ever convince me that 8-bit do controllers have good quality, no matter how lovely they feel in the hands...

 

[Astray]

Killed the shoulder buttons on my 8bitdo Ultimate 2 last weekend playing Luna Abyss.
Both shoulder buttons stick, no longer bounce back, something inside is broken, a spring or plastic.
I believe this has been the quickest to die of all the controllers I have owned.
Not sure I want the 8bitdo 3E anymore.

Gamesir G7 Pro is too clicky and several reviews say the D pad is awful.
Steam Controller no email from the preorder yet. I don't know if I even want it anymore, reports about rumble being borked this morning.

I'm probly going to simply get another Series Elite 2 Core controller, I know I'll get several years out of it at least. I can repurpose the old zipper case, charge dock and paddles.

Consider the Vader 5 Pro v2 or the Beitong KP70 imo. The 1st one particularly is good for shooters if you're into that.

 

[yet_another_alt]

Do let us now how well it is works. Astray will find it useful.

If this indeed bring the features of Dualsense to PC I'll definitely buy it somehow.

If anyone uses it, please share your findings here dudes. Thanks in advance.

So, first off I only bought this because of the Dualsense features. It can apparently do other things but I only really wanted adaptive triggers that work via wireless. And I'm happy to report that yes, it does. The Dualsense is now fully functional on PC. I know there was that DIY Rasberry Pi that was posted earlier but I'm lazy and already have Amazon credit from back when I returned the TT Max.

 

[hououinkyouma00]

So, first off I only bought this because of the Dualsense features. It can apparently do other things but I only really wanted adaptive triggers that work via wireless. And I'm happy to report that yes, it does. The Dualsense is now fully functional on PC. I know there was that DIY Rasberry Pi that was posted earlier but I'm lazy and already have Amazon credit from back when I returned the TT Max.

I think I might grab one of these as well. I thought about doing the Raspberry Pi thing but I wouldn't want it laying out without a case and by the time I buy the pi + a case it'll be close in price anyway.

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

Got one of the Guilkit's in today.

Yup, ps5 functions as reported on PC.

I like this better than the Raspberry Pi Solution (on windows) since this a bit more seamless when connecting/reconnecting. The Raspberry Pi solution does work but it does struggle with more than one controller connecting or disconnecting (IE when you switch to a different controller). I know this isn't the core use case of either of these devices, most people just want to use the one controller they like on as many platforms as they can, I get that and the Pi does that just fine.

For the price, the GuilKit solution is great for PC. You do need to jump through more hoops on PS4 and XBOX X/S to use other controllers on those platforms than you do with the Brooks P5/P5S adapters. Also the Goku 2 adapted does not support PS5 at all (even in passthrough/wired mode).

Lag - I don't have comments on this yet. POE2 feels "weird" on PC so far. I don't know why (maybe due to me using the PS5 DS Edge...I don't like this controller much) I am going to try with the Switch 2 pro controller some this afternoon to see if there is a similar off feeling.

Update on this after a few more hours. I tried this adapter on three different PC's and had, only what I can describe as input ghosting (pressing a button will trigger it then trigger it again OR trigger it several more times in a row). This happend randomly using the PS5 DS Edge (the comments I made above).
When trying this on two other pc's I didn't have this problem at all. It was related to using a thunderbolt 4 port on the pc with a USB C to A adapter (the guilkit is usb A). Once I tried using a different usb port on that same pc I didn't have these issues at all.

So far, testing this afternoon has shown this to be an extremely capable controller adapter for a great price.

**My issues seem to be related to the Asus Pro Art motherboard I am using in my office pc.

Spoiler: Toubleshooting Steps

Here is how I narrowed that issue down:
Office PC:
Changed out the gender changing adapter for a different model (Ugreen USB C to USB A) Result: Same Issue
Switched to two other TB4 ports on the mother board: Same issue with both gender changing adapters on each port.
Switched to a USB C port on the top of my PC Case: Issue was not present with ANY of the gender changing adapters.
Plugged the adapter direclty into a USB A port on my mother board: No issue
Plugged the adapter directly into a USB A port on the front/top of my PC case: No Issue

PC's in my home (mixed use but mostly gaming
Plugged adatper into TB4 rated port on motherboard: No issues with either of the gender changing adapters.
Plugged in to various USB A ports on the motherboard: No issues

 

[BeardSpike]

 

[yet_another_alt]

Got one of the Guilkit's in today.

Yup, ps5 functions as reported on PC.

I like this better than the Raspberry Pi Solution (on windows) since this a bit more seamless when connecting/reconnecting. The Raspberry Pi solution does work but it does struggle with more than one controller connecting or disconnecting (IE when you switch to a different controller). I know this isn't the core use case of either of these devices, most people just want to use the one controller they like on as many platforms as they can, I get that and the Pi does that just fine.

For the price, the GuilKit solution is great for PC. You do need to jump through more hoops on PS4 and XBOX X/S to use other controllers on those platforms than you do with the Brooks P5/P5S adapters. Also the Goku 2 adapted does not support PS5 at all (even in passthrough/wired mode).

Lag - I don't have comments on this yet. POE2 feels "weird" on PC so far. I don't know why (maybe due to me using the PS5 DS Edge...I don't like this controller much) I am going to try with the Switch 2 pro controller some this afternoon to see if there is a similar off feeling.

Update on this after a few more hours. I tried this adapter on three different PC's and had, only what I can describe as input ghosting (pressing a button will trigger it then trigger it again OR trigger it several more times in a row). This happend randomly using the PS5 DS Edge (the comments I made above).
When trying this on two other pc's I didn't have this problem at all. It was related to using a thunderbolt 4 port on the pc with a USB C to A adapter (the guilkit is usb A). Once I tried using a different usb port on that same pc I didn't have these issues at all.

So far, testing this afternoon has shown this to be an extremely capable controller adapter for a great price.
Seems to be related to the Asus Pro Art motherboard I am using in my office pc.

Spoiler: Toubleshooting Steps

Here is how I narrowed that issue down:
Office PC:
Changed out the gender changing adapter for a different model (Ugreen USB C to USB A) Result: Same Issue
Switched to two other TB4 ports on the mother board: Same issue with both gender changing adapters on each port.
Switched to a USB C port on the top of my PC Case: Issue was not present with ANY of the gender changing adapters.
Plugged the adapter direclty into a USB A port on my mother board: No issue
Plugged the adapter directly into a USB A port on the front/top of my PC case: No Issue

PC's in my home (mixed use but mostly gaming
Plugged adatper into TB4 rated port on motherboard: No issues with either of the gender changing adapters.
Plugged in to various USB A ports on the motherboard: No issues

Are you getting consistent results with vibration? It doesn't seem to work properly if I have Steam set to not use Steam input for games that support the Dualsense. If I set it to force Steam input, vibraiton works but I lose the adaptive triggers. Granted Dualsense vibration has always been wonky for me even when wired, something about audio channels or whatever.

 

[b0uncyfr0]

Back again guys, i need a new controller that works on linux (with no bs configuring). Id like something plug and play like the series x controller.

- Xbox design
- Must have back paddles that can be remapped in linux steam (and xremap too - for non steam games)
- bluetooth connection 95% of the time

What are my options?

 

[BeardSpike]

https://gamepadla.com/steam-controller.html

Steam Controller tests on Prometheus 82 are in. It's better than I thought, it being capped at 250Hz polling rate and all. The difference between puck and BT isn't that huge tbh.

 

[BeardSpike]

8BitDo Ultimate 3E Controller for Xbox (Ships on Aug 31. 2026)

8Bitdo is a premier 3rd party video game hardware company with a special focus on retro themed game controllers. Renowned for producing the highest quality retro controllers on the market.

shop.8bitdo.com

Ultimate 3 Controller for Xbox - Lavender Dusk (Ships on Aug 31. 2026)

8Bitdo is a premier 3rd party video game hardware company with a special focus on retro themed game controllers. Renowned for producing the highest quality retro controllers on the market.

shop.8bitdo.com

Both ship at August 31.

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

Are you getting consistent results with vibration? It doesn't seem to work properly if I have Steam set to not use Steam input for games that support the Dualsense. If I set it to force Steam input, vibraiton works but I lose the adaptive triggers. Granted Dualsense vibration has always been wonky for me even when wired, something about audio channels or whatever.

Hmmm good question.

Let me see if I understand the process here to test this:
In steam I should play a sony PC title (like HZD, or Returnal) and what should I choose for the controller mode in Steam? direct input?

 

[Magic Carpet]

8BitDo Ultimate 3E Controller for Xbox (Ships on Aug 31. 2026)

8Bitdo is a premier 3rd party video game hardware company with a special focus on retro themed game controllers. Renowned for producing the highest quality retro controllers on the market.

shop.8bitdo.com

Ultimate 3 Controller for Xbox - Lavender Dusk (Ships on Aug 31. 2026)

8Bitdo is a premier 3rd party video game hardware company with a special focus on retro themed game controllers. Renowned for producing the highest quality retro controllers on the market.

shop.8bitdo.com

Both ship at August 31.

Check out those dimensions and weight.
old Ultimate 2 147X103X61.3 246g
new Ultimate 3E 152.5X104X62 285g

Just bit larger and heavier

 

[BeardSpike]

Check out those dimensions and weight.
old Ultimate 2 147X103X61.3 246g
new Ultimate 3E 152.5X104X62 285g

Just bit larger and heavier

Lavender one kinda baffles me.

151x100.5x84 466g.

It looks like tension adjustment mechanism make it more thick and heavier.

 

[Soodanim]

Back again guys, i need a new controller that works on linux (with no bs configuring). Id like something plug and play like the series x controller.

- Xbox design
- Must have back paddles that can be remapped in linux steam (and xremap too - for non steam games)
- bluetooth connection 95% of the time

What are my options?

I currently use an 8BitDo Ultimate 2. If you hold B when turning it on Steam recognises it as what it is rather than Xinput (I'm assuming this is d-input mode) and you can remap everything. I haven't tried xremap but I'd imagine it's the same there.

 

[Magic Carpet]

Ordered the Ultimate 3E. $149.99. Free shipping. I only saw a black version, no other colors yet.
Now to wait a few months. I bet youtubers will get a hold of em first. Hopefully the reviews will be good.

Still waiting for the email from the Steam Controller preorder.

 

[MooMilk2929]

I got a sega saturn style pc controller earlier. It was kinda cool.

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

Ordered the Ultimate 3E. $149.99. Free shipping. I only saw a black version, no other colors yet.
Now to wait a few months. I bet youtubers will get a hold of em first. Hopefully the reviews will be good.

Still waiting for the email from the Steam Controller preorder.

I am looking forward to the Ultimate 3E too!
I don't really know who that lavender dusk version is for (from a feature perspective...colorways always come down to personal preference) outside of the manual stick tuning the 3E outclasses it in terms of feature customization imo.

I think you made a good choice given my track record with 8bitdo their products rarely disappoint.

Now...that steam controller...that has been more of a miss than a hit for me. A lot of that comes down to my personal situation (having nerve issues in my right hand currently) and the why that controller is tapered toward the back makes it literal pain (for me) to use the bumper buttons. Also, as a person with big hands I think their button placement to account for the addition of the two touch pads, cramps the face buttons to much for my liking.

 

[b0uncyfr0]

I currently use an 8BitDo Ultimate 2. If you hold B when turning it on Steam recognises it as what it is rather than Xinput (I'm assuming this is d-input mode) and you can remap everything. I haven't tried xremap but I'd imagine it's the same there.

So steam recognises the L4, R4 and paddle buttons?

 

[Soodanim]

So steam recognises the L4, R4 and paddle buttons?

I thought it would be better to show you. Picked a game at random to show the default bindings:


Full access to all inputs and gyro, whatever you want is open to you. The only drawback is having to hold B when turning it on every time, which is no drawback at all.