Yes, but this is a console.
I think this pretty clearly shows it's a handheld marketed as a console!
Yes, but this is a console.
So Switch is a good bet. Cause a handheld with decent battery life and a coherent price would hardly happen with PS4 specs in it. I'd say that a portable Wii U is pretty damn decent for portable gaming.
Nintendo could make the most powerful console and third parties still wouldn't support it. That ship has sailed.
Yes, but this is a console.
In raw power, especially with the GPU? It is behind. The architecture is more in-line to the other consoles than the Wii U though.Shit, you know this means? Nintendo is now TWO generations behind. :/
Yes, but this is a console.
Not happening. The chip won't be any cheaper than the X1 just by lowering clock speeds drastically. It's $250-350.
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When are people going to learn.
Just to understand even more, what ballpark for Gflops are we talking about? Both undocked and docked.
Lol Nintendo.
(That would be 153 GPU GFlops in portable mode)
This is the MAXIMUM to expect from Switch when DOCKED https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O68aWmnCpIM
I know its a tech thread, but isn't the quality of the games the most important part? We haven't seen anything but Jimmy and Reggie playing Zelda for a few minutes.
To you and all the other people who write this fake fact:
Almost nobody expected PS4/XB1 power levels in Switch.
There is a wide range of possibilities between Wii U and Xbone. Most people expected Switch to match the Nvidia Shield TV while docked. Which it doesn't. By a lot. That's why the disappointment.
So cut out the reductionist posts.
It is as a home console. I called it, they fucked up the minute they called it a home console. If it was a clear handheld that can connect to your TV, it would be seen as a powerful handheld.
Lol Nintendo.
(That would be 153 GPU GFlops in portable mode)
Oh, I thought the 920M was based on Maxwell.The 920M is Kepler based, and of course console optimization beats DX11. Really though, it will be less than that.
The Wii U doesn't have 352. It has 176. (Yes, I know lots of places on the internet say 352, they are wrong)
Or New 3DS which only takes advantage of the speed boost when running specific games. A homebrew enabled N3DS can at least run regular games much faster.Seems like a PSP situation where they could up the clock speed via firmware in future updates once they better understand the power draw.
Vita's GPU runs 111 MHz base mode, 222 MHz overclocked, 41 MHz downclocked.Yes, I saw the base frequency is speculated to be 200 MHz. Edited the number.
Still crazy considering this is a much larger device, 5 years later, for a higher price, and "made" by nVidia.
2006:
2011:
2016:
When are people going to learn.
If anyone is surprised, that's on them
Vita is a 222mhz GPU... so 28Gflops.
GPU difference in term of flops is 5.5 times when undocked. That is without accouting the fact that Maxwell architecture shits all over Vita's 2008 Power VR GPU architecture.
Vita CPU is 333mhz. Not only Switch's CPU's clockspeed is 3 times higher but it's architecture is twice faster.
This is part of the problem. That might be fine for you but for longevity it doesnt help Nintendo. Palm and BB had what some called the best mobile OS and best email software respectively. Low sales eventually lead to both leaving the hardware business. Anything that might impact sales for a Nintendo console shouldnt be taken lightly. Especially if they want this to be seen as a home console.
They should have marketed it as a handheld, not a hybrid. It doesn't even come close to what a hybrid theoretically should be.
Even Eurogamer is surprised. You people need to stop this crap. You just like acting like annoying know-it-alls and would have said the same fucking bullshit if it were GBA-level.
Keep in mind that an SCD in the future will be able to upgrade this thing's power when docked. Not great for now, but even so.
Key here is price. If this is under $200, it could be huge.
Nah, it can still use the same engine. It's still better suited for modern engines than last-gen ones. Physics will be an issue though.
I never expected it to be Xbox One level..Even when docked, the entire console fits inside the tablet so that was never happening.
But I did expect it to be atleast half of Xbox One when docked and then perhaps half of that while portable. Right now this isn't even 1/3 of Xbox One when docked.
Still it's better than Wii U when docked and I guess that's what it's all about. This can never be a primary console of anyone who is even remotely serious about gaming.
What? It is a powerful handheld that can connect to your tv. It's just also a console.
Just to understand even more, what ballpark for Gflops are we talking about? Both undocked and docked.
I think this pretty clearly shows it's a handheld marketed as a console!
Jesus... I plan to play this on handheld mode because it will my traveling device, looks like no RdR 2 or next GTA for it +/
In raw power, especially with the GPU? It is behind. The architecture is more in-line to the other consoles than the Wii U though.
Nintendo decided to call it a home console. That's a PR mistake IMO.
Nintendo decided to call it a home console. That's a PR mistake IMO.
Which equals questionable marketing from Nintendo
Expect $350 and 3 hours of battery life. Battery life is going to be dependent on the size of the battery first and foremost. Bigger battery means more money.