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[udivision]

Maybe Nintendo never going "All In" with amiibo, and licensing out their IP (Donkey Kong, Bowser) to Skylanders was the right move. Because Amiibo isn't dependent on any one game, there's no Nintendo studio that's exclusively doing amiibo games.

 

[GrantDaNasty]

I'm reminded of Jeff Gerstmann (from Giant Bomb) talking about how Disney seemed to have no interest in the core gaming model. Like he would talk to execs at Disney, and they were not enthusiastic at all.

Infinity seemed like an idea Disney should've been successful in, but honestly, after the launch-era of Disney Infinity, I had no fucking clue how it was doing as a product. Guess the answer is "not that well".

Disney has a ton of licenses (Marvel, Pixar etc) that could get used well in a video game setting, but they seemingly have no interest in anything that isn't some F2P thing or a mobile app (and hey, props to 'em, that shit prints money...just not my money )

 

[Bulzeeb]

well time to buy that Ant-man, Spider-man with symbote, That girl from Tron and Yoda and call it a day

 

[Karak]

Man. I actually enjoy those titles immensely. Shoot.

 

[Plinko]

I remember the first time they announced Infinity and everyone thought the Disney brand was so powerful that it would knock Skylanders off the market, yet here we are.

 

[Tagyhag]

Man that's a shitty thing, lots of jobs gone.

I honestly thought Infinite was doing really well, it just sounds like a cash cow considering all the different IP's at play.

 

[DedValve]

Fuck

300 jobs damn.

 

[Muskieratboi]

I really hope that all the guys at Avalanche and Disney interactive find new jobs. Any TTL devs hiring? Activision? Traveller's tales?

 

[Granjinha]

So to be clear, the "Avalanche" in question is different from the Just Cause/Mad Max/Renegade Ops Avalanche right?

Yep.

They are fine. Pretty sure both JC3 and Mad Max did pretty well.

 

[LiK]

just ordered $200 worth of the ones i'm missing. XD

 

[Hyrule Warrior]

The problem isn't that it's "not selling". It's just not selling enough for Disney. They can make buckloads of money with other merch, they don't care about video games.

This is what depresses me about Disney owning the Marvel properties.... as a gamer, there is so much missed potential for good super hero video games. It's fine if you're just into movies, and free to play games...but sucks if you're an enthusiast like me.

 

[Lagamorph]

I always assumed it was doing really well given how regularly new figures were coming out and the fact it had reached a third version.

 

[kewlmyc]

What the fuck? I thought the game was doing well?

 

[Saty]

https://my.mixtape.moe/xmflrh.webm

 

[Parmadillo Marshmallow]

Not that surprised honestly. The games were super buggy. I had a game breaking bug on Rise of the Empire that made me have no main mission marker on Hoth and I could never get to Endor. Lots of other smaller bugs as well.

 

[Plinko]

Damn, that sucks.

I remember one guy at Disney saying they'll have more stuff (at least for Marvel) for consoles this E3. Wonder if things have changed.

It changed. Official statement says 3 Alice Through the Looking Glass figures and a Finding Dory set. Everything else canceled.

 

[Caffeine]

sorry to hear about the jobs

so toys to life is gg now or whatever it was called?

 

[Aostia]

Disney had kind of an insane cost base.

Avalanche was 300 people, plus they had eight other studios on top of them working on Disney Infinity 3.

It's like how Junction Point was shut down after Epic Mickey 2 because they were 700 employees and the game only sold a few million.

Yes I totally agree on this. I am pretty sure their development costs were the main reason. I think that on top on avalanche other four studios co developed the latest game

 

[netgrimoire]

Really sad about the people who will be loosing their jobs due to this. Good luck to all of them.

 

[Piers]

Wh…

 

[James Scott]

Seems like pretty big news. How can a toy line with Disney, Marvel, and Star Wars figures not be profitable enough to continue?

 

[Dandy Crocodile]

Damn, always been sorta curious about these. Guess I'll hop in soon and order the figures from IPs I like.
Think the toys will go up in value due to no more production or go down due to no more production?

 

[Already Torn]

Wasn't expecting that, I wonder if other toys to life manufacturers will follow suit? It's a damn shame for people like Jones, but I guess this means we could maybe get some good licensed Disney games out of it.

I wonder if this is because of ESPN floundering?

 

[User 479360]

Holy shit. I thought this series was doing relatively well. They'd announced plans to continue support for 3.0.

Poor Avalanche. They made some good licensed games for Disney, especially Toy Story 3 and Cars 2, which were surprisingly good.

 

[KingBroly]

Seems like pretty big news. How can a toy line with Disney, Marvel, and Star Wars figures not be profitable enough to continue?

They hired too many people and spent too much money on marketing to make it happen.

 

[LiK]

Wasn't expecting that, I wonder if other toys to life manufacturers will follow suit? It's a damn shame for people like Jones, but I guess this means we could maybe get some good licensed Disney games out of it.

I wonder if this is because of ESPN floundering?

Amiibo prices have plummeted and you can buy plenty for cheap prices now. i think it's over.

 

[ducksauce]

WTF? Huge surprise to me. I thought they were doing great.

 

[Neoxon]

R.I.P. Any hope for Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, or Captain Marvel figures

I actually liked their Marvel figures.

 

[tareqsalah1]

I bought my nephew both disney infinity with figures and lego marvel.
He thought infinity was hard and boring and plays lego almost all the time.

They made a mistake making figures for new movie characters instead of first targeting nostalgic fans.

I wanted the lion king
Hunchback of notre dam
Ducktales

Etc...

 

[ezekial45]

Very disappointing to hear. I guess I better buy what toys I want while I can. I had some fun with Infinity, but never really got too invested in it.

 

[Elginer]

Fuck man, I love Disney Infinity.

 

[oti]

This is what depresses me about Disney owning the Marvel properties.... as a gamer, there is so much missed potential for good super hero video games. It's fine if you're just into movies, and free to play games...but sucks if you're an enthusiast like me.

Yeah, that sucks. Maybe they should've gone even more for the enthusiast market. Limit the release of figurines (producing so many must be super expensive) but make them nicer. 20€ or 30€ even. Scrap the ToyBox. Supporting that must've been pretty expensive too. Oh well, who am I to give Disney business advice. They'll know what they're doing.

 

[Kouriozan]

If Amiibo start dying, I hope Nintendo will make official toys.
But I agree the World of Nintendo stuff are nice.

 

[Japanmanx3]

WOW?! Brandon Jones gonna be crushed!!!

Edit: On Toybox Tuesday no less.

 

[Joey Ravn]

Man, I always thought the Disney Infinity figures were crazy good looking. That Hulkbuster Iron Man was heavy as a brick, yet it was as expensive as any amiibo or Skylander. Too bad the games themselves never appealed to me, otherwise I would have fallen in love with this series.

It's a pity for all those people as well. I hope they all land on their feet!

 

[Tempy]

If Amiibo start dying, I hope Nintendo will make official toys.

? But Nintendo already licenses out for toy products.

 

[Already Torn]

Amiibo prices have plummeted and you can buy plenty for cheap prices now. i think it's over.

Does Skylanders still do well?

 

[ItsTheNew]

Change the title to read "Avalanche Software" not Avalanche studios.

 

[Wheresmycoffee]

Strictly licensing Disney IPs now, huh?

CAPCOM NOWS YOUR CHANCE! GET THAT MARVEL LICENSE AND MAKE MARVEL VS CAPCOM 4!

 

[Father_Brain]

Damn, that sucks.

I remember one guy at Disney saying they'll have more stuff (at least for Marvel) for consoles this E3. Wonder if things have changed.

If you mean this from SDCC last year, that wouldn't be affected by this news. Those games wouldn't have been developed internally anyway.

 

[Moltenix]

Shit that sucks, thought this was doing well?

 

[Luq]

What? That's surprising... I thought the were doing at least "fine" and were profitable enough to keep it around.

 

[SpotAnime]

Not completely surprising considering they stopped support for PC and Apple TV earlier this year.

Well, guess this explain the earlier nuking of the PC DLC.

I figured that was just streamlining and focusing on where the consumers were. No use spending money on platforms where no one's playing. Especially if Avalanche was at 300 AND they were contracting out to Ninja Theory and Sumo Digital. Halting Apple and PC development would have reduced their expenses somewhat, and no new version (just expansions and figures) would have trimmed their overhead further.

They need to just release a Scrooge McDuck figure as a final hurrah to fans.

 

[Fularu]

I wonder what will happen with the management of old Lucasarts properties

 

[NoPiece]

This is what depresses me about Disney owning the Marvel properties.... as a gamer, there is so much missed potential for good super hero video games. It's fine if you're just into movies, and free to play games...but sucks if you're an enthusiast like me.

It is probably a positive for that IP - more likely it will get licensed to a publisher/developer that will do something interesting with it than if it sat inside Disney.

 

[Orca]

They're committed to money. Sending out their IPs to already established AAA studios is much easier than trying to run your own shop. IPs that bring in tons of cash without having the dirty work.

And then in a couple years they revisit it, someone says they could make more money and have more control by having in-house teams do it all...and we're back where we started.

 

[DJ_Lae]

That sucks.

The games were never great, but there was a ton of potential there and the figures are way better quality than any of the others.

 

[Already Torn]

Strictly licensing Disney IPs now, huh?

CAPCOM NOWS YOUR CHANCE! GET THAT MARVEL LICENSE AND MAKE MARVEL VS CAPCOM 4!

Oooooooohhhh

 

[SuperDowns]

But what's going to happen to John Vignocchi

I had the same thought.

 

[LiK]

Does Skylanders still do well?

i think they still do alright. well, the games actually sell.