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Are DC sales bad?I think DC is a good game but you know that being a brilliant game means noting if sales are bad.
Are DC sales bad?I think DC is a good game but you know that being a brilliant game means noting if sales are bad.
Based on the recent NPD, I bet Drive Club will out sell Forza Horizon 2 in its lifetime. Especially when they get the ps+ version up. It's a good game. And every ps4 owner with plus will get to see for themselves eventually.I think DC is a good game but you know that being a brilliant game means noting if sales are bad.
Are DC sales bad?
FH2 chart last month?Based on the recent NPD, I bet Drive Club will out sell Forza Horizon 2 in its lifetime. Especially when they get the ps+ version up. It's a good game. And every ps4 owner with plus will get to see for themselves eventually.
I think evolution will be fine. At least that's what I hope for.
5 days tracked and didn't chart in the top ten, nope. Which is also a bummer.FH2 chart last month?
Is it possible that they sold way more than expected and had way more people than they thought there would be trying to connect causing the server problems? I think with it being one of the only racing games on PS4 and it's install base, it is probably doing at least as good as expected at this point. Just a theory.Considering that there has been almost no marketing I going to say that it doing decent to bad.
Considering that there has been almost no marketing I going to say that it doing decent to bad.
Is it possible that they sold way more than expected and had way more people than they thought there would be trying to connect causing the server problems? I think with it being one of the only racing games on PS4 and it's install base, it is probably doing at least as good as expected at this point. Just a theory.
Lol you cant compare evolution to those studio, and yes their last game did bomb.
Yeah I think it's been explained as some kind of server bug, or to do with the way the game communicates with the server. I don't think it's just a player load issue.I dont think so , since they had to expect millions of players due to the ps+ plus version.
Good point.I dont think so , since they had to expect millions of players due to the ps+ plus version.
It didn't do too well considering it was on both the one and the 360. Not well at all. I know the numbers but not sure if allowed to say.FH2 chart last month?
I think DC is a good game but you know that being a brilliant game means noting if sales are bad.
How convenient for your argument to decide which studios compare to evolution.
Are you honestly using the "Sales are an indicator of quality" angle?
This is Argumentum ad Populum aka the Appeal to the Masses logical fallacy.
Isn't Evo a much smaller studio those studios?Those studios that have created some of the biggest ips in gaming vs Evolution who created a b tier Sony ip.
How did you get that from my post? I said that being good doesnt mean that you sell a lot.
I think the following happened: Sony expected sales of X and budgeted servers for sales of X. The game might have done moderately better than that or Sony budgeted for medium-term demand rather than launch day. Racing games are not huge, it's not unrealistic. They are rearranging the deck chairs, so to speak, to make the game lighter on sever queries or what have you, but the long term solution is that people will stop playing and the servers will become responsive. That's my two cents. It's a real shame it isn't working 100% yet but I find the reactions here to be pretty callous.
Those studios that have created some of the biggest ips in gaming vs Evolution who created a b tier Sony ip.
How did you get that from my post? I said that being good doesnt mean that you sell a lot.
Evolution Studios did in fact create the best arcade racing series ever created. Keep that in mind.
So did Sony Liverpool.Evolution Studios did in fact create the best arcade racing series ever created. Keep that in mind.
They are way smaller than dice,Maxius, and Blizzard that why I don't like to compared them.Isn't Evo a much smaller studio those studios?
5 days tracked and didn't chart in the top ten, nope. Which is also a bummer.
Am hopeful that an audience does actually exist out there to support these games, but I'm not sure on the economics of it.
Those studios that have created some of the biggest ips in gaming vs Evolution who created a b tier Sony ip
Evolution Studios did in fact create the best arcade racing series ever created. Keep that in mind.
The SP is fun as hell. Evo, hope you stick around. We need more games like this. and for those that say, "we need more games that are released broken?" you haven't played the game, because if you have, you'd know exactly what I'm talking about.
Awesome! And when the ps+ version goes live that number will double. At least.Over 510,000 on the leaderboard as of today ( subtract 5 - 10% for used and multiple gt houses) the game is doing fine 21 days after launch.
Awesome! And when the ps+ version goes live that number will double. At least.
Million seller confirmed. Even Knack hit one million sold.
Can't wait for drive club 2!!!
im just being hopeful
Awesome! And when the ps+ version goes live that number will double. At least.
Million seller confirmed. Even Knack hit one million sold.
Can't wait for drive club 2!!!
im just being hopeful
What drotahorror said. Heroman, You clearly either don't care for evolution, or don't know much about their history, or maybe even have it in for Sony exclusives. I don't know, but this post of yours is enough for me to cease to care about your opinion concerning this issue.
Lol doh! You're absolutely right. You see how hopeful I am??Ugh.....................those are for FH2
It's amazing that Sony seems to get off hook here. It's obvious that this game could not have possibly made launch. Yet it was presented as a launch title. The whole thing has the stench of the "me too" play from their play book. Oh MS has motion controls, me too.(quick slap together a tech demo) Oh the XBO is launching with a 1080p racer, the PS4 too! But ours is going to have real time lighting and weather. But it was bullshit. The game was released a year later running at half the frame rate of Forza 5 without weather. However, it doesn't matter because you had people criticizing Forza 5 for baked lighting, no weather, and 2D crowds. They were able to offer up a competitive racer without actually having to release it. Brilliant! If I had the time I'm sure going back and reading all the quotes about F5's lack of weather would be a hoot in light of all we know now.
I don't think that DC's developer should be shutdown because they accomplished the goal Sony set out for them. Besides, Sony is the publisher that squeezed this turd out. Their name is on the game and they need to take some responsibility for not jumping in to help steer this game away from the disaster it seems to have become.
I know there are people enjoying the game, but that doesn't make DC's delays and problems go away.
It's amazing that Sony seems to get off hook here. It's obvious that this game could not have possibly made launch. Yet it was presented as a launch title. The whole thing has the stench of the "me too" play from their play book. Oh MS has motion controls, me too.(quick slap together a tech demo) Oh the XBO is launching with a 1080p racer, the PS4 too! But ours is going to have real time lighting and weather. But it was bullshit. The game was released a year later running at half the frame rate of Forza 5 without weather. However, it doesn't matter because you had people criticizing Forza 5 for baked lighting, no weather, and 2D crowds. They were able to offer up a competitive racer without actually having to release it. Brilliant! If I had the time I'm sure going back and reading all the quotes about F5's lack of weather would be a hoot in light of all we know now.
I don't think that DC's developer should be shutdown because they accomplished the goal Sony set out for them. Besides, Sony is the publisher that squeezed this turd out. Their name is on the game and they need to take some responsibility for not jumping in to help steer this game away from the disaster it seems to have become.
I know there are people enjoying the game, but that doesn't make DC's delays and problems go away.
This is why I love GAF I learn something new every day.This is Argumentum ad Populum aka the Appeal to the Masses logical fallacy.
Ya! The real problem here is Sony failed at copying Microsoft. :/It's amazing that Sony seems to get off hook here. It's obvious that this game could not have possibly made launch. Yet it was presented as a launch title. The whole thing has the stench of the "me too" play from their play book. Oh MS has motion controls, me too.(quick slap together a tech demo) Oh the XBO is launching with a 1080p racer, the PS4 too! But ours is going to have real time lighting and weather. But it was bullshit. The game was released a year later running at half the frame rate of Forza 5 without weather. However, it doesn't matter because you had people criticizing Forza 5 for baked lighting, no weather, and 2D crowds. They were able to offer up a competitive racer without actually having to release it. Brilliant! If I had the time I'm sure going back and reading all the quotes about F5's lack of weather would be a hoot in light of all we know now.
I don't think that DC's developer should be shutdown because they accomplished the goal Sony set out for them. Besides, Sony is the publisher that squeezed this turd out. Their name is on the game and they need to take some responsibility for not jumping in to help steer this game away from the disaster it seems to have become.
I know there are people enjoying the game, but that doesn't make DC's delays and problems go away.
The whole thing has the stench of the "me too" play from their play book. Oh MS has motion controls, me too.(quick slap together a tech demo) Oh the XBO is launching with a 1080p racer, the PS4 too!
Driveclub revealed Feb. 20 2013
Forza 5 revealed May 21 2013
I think everyone already knew the 720 was launching with Forza 5.
Some of these people in here are acting like:
When we have a fully functioning single player unfortunately plagued by MP issues. Sorry, I don't believe that is worth shutting down an entire studio over. Glad some of you don't make such decisions.
Considering that there has been almost no marketing I going to say that it doing decent to bad.
It's amazing that Sony seems to get off hook here. It's obvious that this game could not have possibly made launch. Yet it was presented as a launch title. The whole thing has the stench of the "me too" play from their play book. Oh MS has motion controls, me too.(quick slap together a tech demo) Oh the XBO is launching with a 1080p racer, the PS4 too! But ours is going to have real time lighting and weather. But it was bullshit. The game was released a year later running at half the frame rate of Forza 5 without weather. However, it doesn't matter because you had people criticizing Forza 5 for baked lighting, no weather, and 2D crowds. They were able to offer up a competitive racer without actually having to release it. Brilliant! If I had the time I'm sure going back and reading all the quotes about F5's lack of weather would be a hoot in light of all we know now.
So by announcing 3 months before Forza 5, Driveclub was already copying Forza 5? Really? You're going to need to come up with a better argument than that.
Not copying, but rather offering a competitive product. Sony needed a racer at launch to match Forza, they showed us drive club.
revisionist history? wasn't driveclub announced/shown before fm5?Not copying, but rather offering a competitive product. Sony needed a racer at launch to match Forza, they showed us Drive Club.
It's amazing that Sony seems to get off hook here. It's obvious that this game could not have possibly made launch. Yet it was presented as a launch title. The whole thing has the stench of the "me too" play from their play book. Oh MS has motion controls, me too.(quick slap together a tech demo) Oh the XBO is launching with a 1080p racer, the PS4 too! But ours is going to have real time lighting and weather. But it was bullshit. The game was released a year later running at half the frame rate of Forza 5 without weather. However, it doesn't matter because you had people criticizing Forza 5 for baked lighting, no weather, and 2D crowds. They were able to offer up a competitive racer without actually having to release it. Brilliant! If I had the time I'm sure going back and reading all the quotes about F5's lack of weather would be a hoot in light of all we know now.
I don't think that DC's developer should be shutdown because they accomplished the goal Sony set out for them. Besides, Sony is the publisher that squeezed this turd out. Their name is on the game and they need to take some responsibility for not jumping in to help steer this game away from the disaster it seems to have become.
I know there are people enjoying the game, but that doesn't make DC's delays and problems go away.
Not copying, but rather offering a competitive product. Sony needed a racer at launch to match Forza, they showed us Drive Club.
Gaf is a little bit overprotective with Driveclub
12 days in, servers still bomba and this is not the only problem with the game.
I think everyone already knew the 720 was launching with Forza 5.
Not copying, but rather offering a competitive product. Sony needed a racer at launch to match Forza, they showed us Drive Club.
Grimløck;135090043 said:revisionist history? wasn't driveclub announced/shown before fm5?
No, it doesn't work like that.
We could argue that "everyone already knew" that Evolution was making a next gen racing game for Sony.