Mr.Deadshot
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Yeah no "Baldur" is striking and ridiculous. Baldur's Gate 2 easily is Top 10 material.Ctrl-F "Baldur"
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Both Destiny and Horizon are better than the Witcher 3 though. So I'll give them that.
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Edge Magazine: The 100 Greatest Videogames 2017 Edition
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Both Destiny and Horizon are better than the Witcher 3 though. So I'll give them that.
Magic Mushroom
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I think 2016 Doom is way better than the original with far superior dynamic combat.
Gotdatmoney
Member
FF7 has not aged well. And while FF9 is a classic and a great game compared to tge modern era of all gaming, it is not a glaring ommission by any stretch. Have FF10 but never played.
More than anything, this list shows that we've reached a point where there are just too many great games to rank. There are so many more games just as worthy of being in a top 100, its almost silly.
It's a good, valid list. But you could make another top 100 with entirely different games and say the exact same thing.
It's a good, valid list. But you could make another top 100 with entirely different games and say the exact same thing.
backflip10019
Member
Man there are some bad opinions coming out of the woodwork in this thread.
#notmylist
There are some inclusions I find surprising but I'm happy to see. And atleast this list has Dota 2 as the highest ranked MOBA. But too many omissions of some of the greatest. Like no Deus Ex or Planescape, maybe those games are too old to be included. I find their Final Fantasy pick a bit baffling too. And I admit that seeing Witcher so low hurts a bit, but hey atleast it got recognized. Can't take even that for granted with this list.
There are some inclusions I find surprising but I'm happy to see. And atleast this list has Dota 2 as the highest ranked MOBA. But too many omissions of some of the greatest. Like no Deus Ex or Planescape, maybe those games are too old to be included. I find their Final Fantasy pick a bit baffling too. And I admit that seeing Witcher so low hurts a bit, but hey atleast it got recognized. Can't take even that for granted with this list.
LegendofDragoonLives
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lmao
Gotdatmoney
Member
Anyway with how many amazing games there are now adays listing just 100 would make any list incomplete. I think it's a good list of games that if you gave it to someone without nostalgia bias they would enjoy tremendously. That said I am salty Yoshi's Island didn't make it 
Magic Mushroom
Member
What makes it good is the context. A list is just a list but the write-ups are superb.
For those who already have the previous one, the write-ups are the same, so only the new entries are new write-ups.
Nightmare452
Member
Great list. No prob with BotW at #1. Easily well deserved by a mile.
Also, super happy to see the From games, Dark Souls 1, Bloodborne and Demon's Souls all well positioned in the top 25.
One thing that I find odd is how can games like Splatoon 1 and
Kerbal Space Program be justifed being above A Link to the Past. Those, even though great games in their own, are not in the same league as THE legendary Zelda classic.
What was #1 before though, Dark Souls???
Also, super happy to see the From games, Dark Souls 1, Bloodborne and Demon's Souls all well positioned in the top 25.
One thing that I find odd is how can games like Splatoon 1 and
Kerbal Space Program be justifed being above A Link to the Past. Those, even though great games in their own, are not in the same league as THE legendary Zelda classic.
What was #1 before though, Dark Souls???
Angel Whispers
Member
It was the highest rated 8th Gen title at one point. Personally, I consider it to be the best realisation of a 3D Mario title to date. Haven't played Super Mario Odyssey yet, but from what I've seen, it has a lot of promise.
I like BotW a lot but I disagree. Hell that PUBG game might get game of the year
If the game didn't get so repetitive and had more dungeons then I'd be closer to agreeing.
Shit, Metroid Prime is better than BotW. Prime 4 and Odyssey could surpass. PUBG is looking like a competitor for top game of the year as well
If the game didn't get so repetitive and had more dungeons then I'd be closer to agreeing.
Shit, Metroid Prime is better than BotW. Prime 4 and Odyssey could surpass. PUBG is looking like a competitor for top game of the year as well
Gotdatmoney
Member
The only issue with Splatoon 1 being on that list is Splatoon 2 is better.
Tomato Convenience Store
Neo Member
Completely agree with BOTW at number 1 - no Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike is a damn travesty, though.
IX I had issues with back in the day, so I'm not sure about it's worthiness. The first half of the game was excellent though.
X. I mean boot up the remastered editions on whatever platform you have. The age really shows. I completely forgot that the lip syncing and general voice over direction was pretty iffy. I mean I like it but I'd no way say to anyone "start here" as an FF game.
semiconscious
Gold Member
i like how they plug half life 2 & tetris into the top 10 for cred's sake ...
...If I was going to make a top 100 list these are the only ones that would feature and not in that order. Not that I would have ever expected there to be much overlap between me and Edge
I find it odd that anyone could think Resogun is one of the greatest games ever made but everyone's entitled to their opinion
Mario 64 should b in the top 5 which it was last time they made this feature.....also as someone which gave up on bloodborne because of its stupid dificulty i cant understand why its in the 2nd soptand ahead of a much more even game like the last of us for example.
shoryukens
Member
Happy to see Monster Hunter and Tetris make it in. Seeing Puyo Puyo is awesome even though Puyo Puyo 2 holds up a lot better.
The Puyo Puyo entry is for the series as a while, though the essay makes specific mention of Puyo Puyo Fever.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Yeah, not including Shenmue or Shenmue II is pretty weird. Both games are still so incredible.
Barry Burton
Member
Lot of really great games on that list, though I have some grievances with the ordering. Metroid Prime at #72 is way too low and GTA V at #3 is way too high, for example. And there's a definite recency bias with a lot of the games ranked near the top, though the Top 10 mostly consists of games I think are fantastic so I can't bitch & moan too much.
Breath of the Wild...I get it. At some point around 50 hours, I believed it would certainly overtake OoT as my favorite Zelda and favorite game overall. But it's flaws became more and more apparent the longer I played it, and depending on the order you do things in, the content gets worse and worse as you go (i.e. the first Divine Beast quest I did was incredible, but it was far-and-away better than the others). It's a game that will still rank high on my personal list because I do think it's an incredible achievement, but there are too many things that it doesn't do as well as it should.
It's not a bad pick for #1; you could certainly do a lot worse than what will probably be 2017's best game. But I feel like there's so much room for improvement in a hypothetical BotW 2 that in five year's time or so, people will see it more for what it is, which is a great first step in a new direction for the series. Much in the same way LttP is remembered more fondly than the original Zelda.
Breath of the Wild...I get it. At some point around 50 hours, I believed it would certainly overtake OoT as my favorite Zelda and favorite game overall. But it's flaws became more and more apparent the longer I played it, and depending on the order you do things in, the content gets worse and worse as you go (i.e. the first Divine Beast quest I did was incredible, but it was far-and-away better than the others). It's a game that will still rank high on my personal list because I do think it's an incredible achievement, but there are too many things that it doesn't do as well as it should.
It's not a bad pick for #1; you could certainly do a lot worse than what will probably be 2017's best game. But I feel like there's so much room for improvement in a hypothetical BotW 2 that in five year's time or so, people will see it more for what it is, which is a great first step in a new direction for the series. Much in the same way LttP is remembered more fondly than the original Zelda.
wild wild rice
Member
I guess my entry for "Where the hell is ___________?!?" is Yoshi's Island.
Where the hell is Yoshi's Island?!?
Edit: Actually there is just a deficit of 2D platformers overall. This is odd since they mention one of their criteria was that the game had to hold up today and 2D platforms hold up against the test of time extremely well.
Where the hell is Yoshi's Island?!?
Edit: Actually there is just a deficit of 2D platformers overall. This is odd since they mention one of their criteria was that the game had to hold up today and 2D platforms hold up against the test of time extremely well.
What about FF7 don't you think has aged well? Graphics I absolutely agree don't look great nowadays, but they're serviceable. But the gameplay itself is still good and the materia system is well thought out. The audio is excellent, as with every Final Fantasy. The story and characters hold up, more so than most other games. The atmosphere, from all of Midgar to Cosmo Canyon is spot-on. FF7 stands the test of time, and I don't think minor issues like graphics and a clunky translation at times should take away from what is a masterpiece.
Everything I said about FF7 also applies to FF9, except that the latter has a better translation and better graphics and is just better in everything else aside from some questionable character designs and slower battles.
Tomato Convenience Store
Neo Member
As games in a mechanical sense Shenmue I and II are pretty clunky, but as experiences both games are amazing. It's understandable.
I think I'm largely okay with this list. I would rather Baldur's Gate 2 was on there (I'd even take Pillars of Eternity), but the rest all seems pretty much as I expected.
I always find the Edge lists to be so intriguing as they seem to take a fantastic look at games with a sort of cold detachment as if to say "if you wanted someone to play games and showcase what they are capable of, this is it".
I always find the Edge lists to be so intriguing as they seem to take a fantastic look at games with a sort of cold detachment as if to say "if you wanted someone to play games and showcase what they are capable of, this is it".
Interesting list, but I can't believe that they are treating all Final Fantasy games as "straight-up sequels" and to not consider FFVI (or even if they wanted FFIV) just "another straight-up sequel in line with XII. I'm glad XII made the list, but it is a completely different game than the 2D turn-based (and even if you wanted the VII to X games) to lump all together instead of per "type" rather.
Those Final Fantasy games could be considered the same way as the 3D Mario games, they are all stand-alone games and they just happen to follow a naming convention.
Also no one can't say that a game such as FFVI or Chrono Trigger don't stand up today.
Those Final Fantasy games could be considered the same way as the 3D Mario games, they are all stand-alone games and they just happen to follow a naming convention.
Also no one can't say that a game such as FFVI or Chrono Trigger don't stand up today.
wild wild rice
Member
I, for one, agree with every placement of every game on this list.
immortald3ath
Member
Last of us and bloodborne in top 5? Umm.....
RDR should be higher than gta5. And Witcher 3 is too low
RDR should be higher than gta5. And Witcher 3 is too low
It's a pretty good list and Witcher is right where it should be maybe even higher than it should but Destiny is in a good place as is GTAV and Red Dead.
Booker.DeWitt
Member
No Silent Hill?????????????
GTFO
GTFO
Ctrl+F "Portal 2"
Nowt.
They picked the wrong Portal
Normally i don't give any fucks about lists but this one has so many things wrong it's kinda stunning.
- No Final Fantasy except XII: Come on... VI, VII or IX say hello.
- Metroid Prime not even in the top 50. What were they smoking?
- The only Metal Gear game in there is V? God...this is ridiculous.
- Not a single Pokemon game. Hahahaha.
Whats wrong with Bloodborne being there? Totally deserved.
- No Final Fantasy except XII: Come on... VI, VII or IX say hello.
- Metroid Prime not even in the top 50. What were they smoking?
- The only Metal Gear game in there is V? God...this is ridiculous.
- Not a single Pokemon game. Hahahaha.
Whats wrong with Bloodborne being there? Totally deserved.
Vyse The Legend
Member
It's just way, way, way, wayyyyyyyyyy too soon to rank a new release like BotW on a list of this kind. A large basis for all-time rankings should be "staying power" and how well something ages.
Other than that, it's hard for me to argue with the rest -- except for the omission of the best RPG of all-time, Chrono Trigger.
Other than that, it's hard for me to argue with the rest -- except for the omission of the best RPG of all-time, Chrono Trigger.