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Ah, linguistic purism. Something I'd associate with Nazis or France.
Yes, Sweden en Germany have done a terrible job providing free housing, food, education, healthcare and more to refugees. We should all look to Erdogan on how to run a country and treat your minority groups. /sSo you think that refugees in Europe are well-treated because people want to go there ? Do you think that US border police offer a good treatment to Mexicans immigrants since they all want to go there to ? It's really a dumb argument. Europe is systematically condemned by Amnesty International and others humans rights organizations for their treatment of migrant. The UN recognized that Turkey managed the syrian refugees crisis in a decent way.
The Germans call it Türkei. Türk-Ei. Turk-egg. Or possibly Tür-kei, Door-kei. Sure sounds like "Dorky" to me. You should totally get Merkel on the phone for this humiliation.
Good post tbf. I don't like Erdogan but a lot of outsiders who only know of Turkey from geopolitics and news articles seem to think it's some North Korean/Saddam Iraq dystopian level or something.
It's not good the direction Erdogan is taking the country. But Secular Turks still freely live, go out, drink, chill, have sex, criticise Erdogan openly etc. Just name all the lifestyle things you want and Secular Turks still live all that without hassle. I always enjoy my time there and strangely I worry more about Turkey when here in UK than when I'm there and everything appears normal in day to day life.
Again I'm not supporting Erdogan. This thread's subject is prime Erdogan tier of fuckery. But we need to be objective and not make Turkey look more dystopian than it is. It's a country full of First World problems and amenities, it's not a 3rd World shithole by any means.
If things were truly as fucked as some people think then the exodus of Secular/Opposition Turks would be far stronger, they'd even be desperate to get out and even try illegal immigration. But things aren't on that level. Hopefully they never will be. Perhaps sooner rather than later, as there are core AKP members who have had enough of his shit from what I've heard.
Good post tbf. I don't like Erdogan but a lot of outsiders who only know of Turkey from geopolitics and news articles seem to think it's some North Korean/Saddam Iraq dystopian level or something.
It's not good the direction Erdogan is taking the country. But Secular Turks still freely live, go out, drink, chill, have sex, criticise Erdogan openly etc. Just name all the lifestyle things you want and Secular Turks still live all that without hassle. I always enjoy my time there and strangely I worry more about Turkey when here in UK than when I'm there and everything appears normal in day to day life.
Again I'm not supporting Erdogan. This thread's subject is prime Erdogan tier of fuckery. But we need to be objective and not make Turkey look more dystopian than it is. It's a country full of First World problems and amenities, it's not a 3rd World shithole by any means.
If things were truly as fucked as some people think then the exodus of Secular/Opposition Turks would be far stronger, they'd even be desperate to get out and even try illegal immigration. But things aren't on that level. Hopefully they never will be. Perhaps sooner rather than later, as there are core AKP members who have had enough of his shit from what I've heard.
What are you even talking about? A day ago a gay couple got beaten because they were kissing in Macka Park. The other day heterosexual couple got harrased by a dude in the street.m just because they were holding hands. And these are the shit that we know because of exposure from left wing news agencies.
I am afraid to drink water outside because of Ramazan. And you think secular Turks live like kings? I don't want to live in a oppressive Islamic country like this. Yeah I guess what's the big deal about "a bit of harassment!", right? They are not cutting our throats just because I kissed my girlfriend in the street! Yet.
Ironic, coming from his mouth.
What are you even talking about? A day ago a gay couple got beaten because they were kissing in Macka Park. The other day heterosexual couple got harrased by a dude in the street.m just because they were holding hands. And these are the shit that we know because of exposure from left wing news agencies.
I am afraid to drink water outside because of Ramazan. And you think secular Turks live like kings? I don't want to live in a oppressive Islamic country like this. Yeah I guess what's the big deal about "a bit of harassment!", right? They are not cutting our throats just because I kissed my girlfriend in the street! Yet.
Fake news.
Anecdotes by Stereogatari and Golden_Pigeon are real news.
What about that time where erdogan was suing tons of people over insults?Good post tbf. I don't like Erdogan but a lot of outsiders who only know of Turkey from geopolitics and news articles seem to think it's some North Korean/Saddam Iraq dystopian level or something.
It's not good the direction Erdogan is taking the country. But Secular Turks still freely live, go out, drink, chill, have sex, criticise Erdogan openly etc. Just name all the lifestyle things you want and Secular Turks still live all that without hassle. I always enjoy my time there and strangely I worry more about Turkey when here in UK than when I'm there and everything appears normal in day to day life.
Why are we arguing? I agree with you. I just don't want Turkey to be made to look like a country that is 100% not nice and got nothing going for it. Why does everything have to revolve around Erdogan. Turkey is more than Erdogan and the opposition demographic still live free lives and have fun. Is it so wrong for me to point that out?
Live free and have fun eh. Tell me, how many judges were removed? How many school teachers? Why are you ignoring the examples of people being beat up that the other poster just mentioned? How is that having fun?Why are we arguing? I agree with you. I just don't want Turkey to be made to look like a country that is 100% not nice and got nothing going for it. Why does everything have to revolve around Erdogan. Turkey is more than Erdogan and the opposition demographic still live free lives and have fun. Is it so wrong for me to point that out?
I came to post the same. Though arena was indeed more of a battleground - a place of contest/struggle/duel.Uh, so he went with "stadium" instead?
Both Latin words.
Uh, so he went with "stadium" instead?
Both Latin words.
Yes, Sweden en Germany have done a terrible job providing free housing, food, education, healthcare and more to refugees. We should all look to Erdogan on how to run a country and treat your minority groups. /s
It's just strange reading someone defending Erdogan of all people, when we all know the dude is scum and causing trouble for everyone.
What are you even talking about? A day ago a gay couple got beaten because they were kissing in Macka Park. The other day heterosexual couple got harrased by a dude in the street.m just because they were holding hands. And these are the shit that we know because of exposure from left wing news agencies.
I am afraid to drink water outside because of Ramazan. And you think secular Turks live like kings? I don't want to live in a oppressive Islamic country like this. Yeah I guess what's the big deal about "a bit of harassment!", right? They are not cutting our throats just because I kissed my girlfriend in the street! Yet.