it took me like 3 years too...
this is weirding me out because im realizing that this term has 3 possible meanings depending on your scene.
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it took me like 3 years too...
this is weirding me out because im realizing that this term has 3 possible meanings depending on your scene.
Karsticles
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Sounds like you should call it delayed guard, or something.
Guilty Gear Xrd actually teaches you to block Ram's mixups using this method.
That's probably the more authentic usage of the term.
For 2D fighters, people refer to fuzzy guard when you block something high and you are in block stun but even though you hold down/back after that, your character is still standing to block high. This allows some characters to do instant overheads by making a character first block high to initiate the stand guard animation and then go into an instant overhead. Since they are actually pressing down/back (even though their character is actually standing up) they get hit by the instant overhead.
Like shown here.
Spencer gets Vergil to block Amaterasu Cold Shot assist while standing. Then makes him block a high by doing a zip into a jump attack which the character blocks. After that the character is actually blocking low because it was recorded as such previously but Spencer hits the instant overhead because of the fuzzy guard state.
Thing is that fuzzy guarding actually exists in MVC3 or at least some top players claim that it exists and people use it to block left/right mix ups especially against Zero (in almost the exact method that was stated in the quoted post). So this just creates even more confusion.
Yeah, that's how we use the term "fuzzy blocking." At least, in my circle of friends. The term "fuzzy" in general means hiding another option behind a block animation based on timing. Fuzzy mashing is when you mash at a time where if you're in blockstun it won't come out, if they do a different string it will come out. Fuzzy jump is when they can do a string that is true or they leave a gap and you get a jump out instead, and so on.
As far as I understand it, the way "fuzzy" originated is that you do something is hidden behind blockstun or a block animation based on timing. It started in VF where you could time high/low guard to avoid certain mix ups based on string/situation.
Edit: "fuzzy" is a type of defensive OS hidden inside blockstun or a guard animation would be how I learned to use it.
call_kotaku
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so basically there are a bunch of different kinds of block option selects for different games and everyone just started just calling all of them fuzzy guard?
Shouta
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Pretty much. VF is the originator as far as I know but it's basically the same thing across games even if the actual technique is different.
Yeah. I think the only place I haven't really seen it is in SF stuff, they tend to name those things pretty specifically.
Cindi Mayweather
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Yo man, Cindi got heart folks. Got that pure heart warrior shit going on, got me tearing up
I was on the verge of quitting video games when I bought Ultra on a whim. Its depth and its community saved me from quitting video games. So I feel like I have a duty to the game to be all I can be. Even if it means losing 70 fights in a row against Vulva in one night.
Everyone knows Manga Avatars are superior, a true connoisseur doesn't need motion.
I haven't played fighting games in so long because of school. It feels like no one who plays anime is on my level anymore. So behind.
irfaanator
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sounds like one of my japanese anime
direct_quote
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If a jobber like Yams can continue with his chin up, so can you.
You have that true shonen protagonist essence.
Cindi Mayweather
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Manga avvies are superior but You're Under Arrest ova has amazing detail in its shots!
MikeBreezy92
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Yo I can't even take losing like that anymore. I get too irritated at myself.
Cindi Mayweather
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I don't like that game. It's a good game, but not my style. I prefer MonHun.
Hmmm... That new xenoblade game on the Wii U might be up your alley. Plus its anime as fuck.
Congrats on the 14.81% win rate against me tonight.
You're gonna be great one day
Last time I meet up with someone in person at a tournament ;_;
Cindi Mayweather
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14.8% is better than 0.
Yeah but you've demonstrated consisted growth each time we've played which is really important at this stage in your play. I think once you get comfortable applying your knowledge of bread n butter combos and are able to comfortably translate them in to reactive and practical uses in a match you'll see some great results.
Great english Vulva.
Look likes there's something else besides your trash talk that needs some help.
Look likes there's something else besides your trash talk that needs some help.
Yeah I used a variant of comfortable twice in the same sentence, gimme a break it's 3am+
Oops, good spotting. Embarrassed about a typo on the internet now!
irfaanator
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probably mad b/c we gave him shit and welcomed cindi w/ open arms
I only started giving him shit when he told me he loved it. Never embrace a scat fetishist I guess.
petran79
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Yes. I cant believe I first played Waku Waku 7 in the late 90s and only a few years ago watched Totoro....
Coffeeling
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"meta" = about something, pertaining to something.
"metagame" = what others are doing about the game, or the sum total of widely available knowledge about how the game is supposed to be played.
"metagaming" = making decisions according to what others are doing outside the game.
"strategy" = general, high-level plan of action to achieve desired ends.
Strategy can be applied on many levels - playing the metagame to position yourself well within it, trying to find a new unknown thing that breaks it open rather than rotate cyclically in a wheel of counters, within a match to decide what stance to take (who's the aggressor, "I win at Range X, play to maintain that range", etc.)
Tizoc
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Yes. I cant believe I first played Waku Waku 7 in the late 90s and only a few years ago watched Totoro....
Maruru is my fav. WW7 character and I can't believe I never realized he was based on Totoro @_@
ShinMaruku
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I just love the reaction with Doa from certain sectors, so much misunderstanding.
My definition of metagame has always been "the game of playing the game"
Looks like big the catMaruru is my fav. WW7 character and I can't believe I never realized he was based on Totoro @_@
Tizoc
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He predates Big the Cat by 3 years.
Cindi Mayweather
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How is there any misunderstanding?
I used to like DOA. DOA2U is one of GOAT Xbox games. But never did I ever tell myself it isn't a boob game. As someone who likes men, I can tell you straight up that the boys in DOA simply exist so it isn't labeled purely as "that fan service game". The men often look like a complete generation behind the women.
When DOA pays as much attention to the dudes' groins and there's as diverse body types as the women, there really is no misunderstanding. DOA2U has unlock able art where the girls' big boobies are in full display. There's even a theater mode so players can beat their dicks in peace, button free.
There is no misunderstanding over what DOA is, and I say this as (former) big Team Ninja fan.
You can like the game, but it really does scream "I read Playboy for the articles." The answer to DOA of "is it a fan service game or just a fun game with boobies?" is actually both.
This. The games rumors character list is too good to care about the graphics tbh, just name some polygons geese and tizoc and I'm there
I find the Playboy comparison funny because they had well received articles, and DOA5U has a well received combat engine.
I also don't think there is a misunderstanding really, most people know DOA5U is a good fighting game that is propped up by 2000 lingerie DLC costumes and a pretty horny fanbase. Maybe when they go Playboy and ditch some of the lewdness that'll change.
I also don't think there is a misunderstanding really, most people know DOA5U is a good fighting game that is propped up by 2000 lingerie DLC costumes and a pretty horny fanbase. Maybe when they go Playboy and ditch some of the lewdness that'll change.
Master Milk
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Most everybody I've talked to knows at least, and I see it get praise a lot more than it doesn't. If people are misunderstanding it because of that image, I mean, time to change your image or live with it.
Some of the image probalems are left over from DOA4 and DOAX2 being the laughing stock of everybody for several years, so much so they tried to rebrand DOA5 with "I'm a Fighter" and Mila.
Maybe some people do misunderstand I guess, but I can't really blame them. Anecdotally I've run into a lot of people who praise it as a fighting game.
Cindi Mayweather
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I praise DOA as a fighting game but in no way do I forget what it's also going for.
It's hilarious to me that you say what is the misunderstanding and then go on to show exactly what that is.
The funniest part of that comparison to me is that Playboy saw a massive increase in traffic to their online site once they stopped publishing nude images on their site. Maybe it really would be for the best if the series toned down the lewdness a notch or three. Doubt that happens though as long as the easy otaku money keeps rolling in.
Samsho is the most playable out of those imo but last blade is something you absolutely must own if you dont already.
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