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Final Fantasy XIII-2 E3 Information Thread [Trailer, BioWare Storytelling, More]
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cosmicblizzard
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Looks excellent. Can't wait.
ZephyrFate
Banned
Yeah, that's totally what FFXIII was.leadbelly said:
This is the oldest and silliest insult lobbed at the game, and I find it less amusing the more it's repeated.
Hours Left
Member
Yeah, I realize I'm getting ahead of myself.KuwabaraTheMan said:
I'm hoping Kagari can shed some more light on this though.
Fimbulvetr
Member
Are his pants made of a tacky carpet?
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
They're made from Aladdin's Magic Carpet.Fimbulvetr said:
Awesome. Looking forward to it.Kagari said:
ZephyrFate
Banned
Because any number of games, including most if not all of the Final Fantasy games, have this exact same issue. And even with XII, which you have more 'freedom' in, you're still just mashing X over and over. With some added menu-diving over and over and over and over and over again to switch Gambits. Gameplay!leadbelly said:
You can say that about ANY game.
BertramCooper
Banned
It's disappointing how similar this is to FFXIII.
X-2 was a very divisive game, but at least it had the balls to branch out from its predecessor and do something completely different.
If you somehow enjoyed XIII, it looks like you'll enjoy this. But for the rest of us? No thanks.
X-2 was a very divisive game, but at least it had the balls to branch out from its predecessor and do something completely different.
If you somehow enjoyed XIII, it looks like you'll enjoy this. But for the rest of us? No thanks.
ZephyrFate
Banned
As it would so aptly to most of the entire Final Fantasy series.Daschysta said:
RPGCrazied
Member
Kagari said:
for download? no video of the demo at all?
Rahxephon91
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Not really. The battle system in XIII is pretty much better then any other FF. Autobattle is pretty much only there if you are stupid.Daschysta said:
Kagari said:
Posting it in this topic right? Now i'm in FF hype mode again lol.
Rahxephon91 said:
Whoa whoa...not better than X. That had the perfect mix of jobs, turn based combat, controlling ALL party members via switching, fast paced, and could use all summons.
X had the best battle system, and I really wish they improved on it more...especially since it was one of the few JRPGs that let you use every character in a battle.
This game doesn't look as accomplished as the original graphically, and the music isn't as good either (it sounds like a different composer to me). Overall I get the impression that this is a "cash-in", in that it looks less inspired in general.
But oh well, I'll still buy it and play it and it will be fun.
But oh well, I'll still buy it and play it and it will be fun.
ZephyrFate said:
Sort of. The thing about FFXIII's battle system though was it was pretty limited for a large part of the game. It was like one massive tutorial until you got to Gran Pulse. And most FF games don't lead you down one path for most of the game without any side-quests or towns to explore.
BertramCooper said:
Yeah, I thought exactly the same. Just looks like the same game but with a new story, what a usual sequel is without any gameplay changes.
I was expecting something more X-2, in a non-pop way. But well, although I didn't particularly like the linearity of XIII, I'm not against playing more of the same combat system in some new corridors.
I can get my doses of empty open spaces from FFXIV, so not a problem.
Byakuya769
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SE has been working its ass off to kill the final fantasy brand.
ZephyrFate
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This is true, but I would say that once it opens up the game becomes really, really fun. And you have a lot of different options and gameplay becomes strategic.leadbelly said:
RPGCrazied
Member
Seda said:
of the demo?
Fimbulvetr
Member
Seda said:
That would require them to change the whole system, since auto-battle is just a faster way of picking through the already massively simplified paradigms.
As much as a I dislike non-customizable AI, picking everything manually in XIII would have been a total bore due to the way Paradigms work.
Rahxephon91
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People say it's limited? Why because you don't have a full party? What a lame argument. The game is increcibly more fun with the two person party members. As you use there class to be as offensive as possible. Not auto battle and mashing X is not whats wrong with XIII's battle system. Whats wrong with it, is that it rewards pretty much just playing offensively.leadbelly said:
And I find myself not even caring about exploration and towns anymore. I''m playing FFVI right now and most of the towns look the same and exploration is boring.
Cared enough to post. GOTCHA!XTERC said:
ZephyrFate
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Isn't... that what you do with most of FFXII's Hunts?leadbelly said:
KuwabaraTheMan
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Teknoman said:
XIII and X are pretty different beasts, and it's tough to really compare them. For my money, X is one of the best possible turn based systems, but I'm not sure if you can make a perfect comparison between that and something like XIII.
XIII goes for a more fast paced battle system which focuses on macromanagement rather than micromanagement (although not as far as The Last Remnant goes in that regard). It's pretty different from X, which was focused around taking every individual move into account and constantly looking at the turn order in order to inform your decisions.
It was also limited in that for the most part, your level was regulated. Grinding is not really a part of the gameplay until Gran Pulse as it isn't necessary and requires you to jump through some massive hoops to do (as opposed to previous Final Fantasy's). Not to mention the fact that there is a rather low level cap that can't be expanded until you beat the game once. It was an extremely controlled experience.leadbelly said:
BertramCooper
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It's pretty sad when it takes a game 20+ hours before it becomes fun.ZephyrFate said:
The music actually doesn't sound finished yet. If you've listened to the XIII - PLUS album, you'd have heard the pre-production or "alpha" versions of a lot of the tracks. What I heard in the trailer sounds like the same pre-production soundbanks and samples Hamauzu uses in his works while he's creating them to get an overall vibe for the piece before putting it into post-production.Josh7289 said:
Keep in mind, the man is freelance now. His deadlines are a lot less strict, and he'll probably be fully finished with the OST around 3 months previous to launch, if my freelance experiences are of any application here.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Yeah, I bet it'll sound amazing when he records with an orchestra. It was neat tracing the development of Blinded by Light's (and Defiers of Fate's) sound over the years.Thoraxes said:
I think I'm looking forward to the soundtrack way more than the actual game. :lol
Rahxephon91
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Hey Hey! Well let's be honest. My post was pretty much the bolded here. I mean you just shouldn't take anything I say about FF seriously.Khrno said:
So what you are telling me is that it introduces new things as the game goes on, like every FF game?leadbelly said:
Hell 12 hours into FFVI, I just got espers. Does that game suck now? Espers being like the main ability system. I mean sure, XIII is paced awkwardly, but I really never got why this argument was such a big deal. X and XII are about the only FFs I can think that introduce their mechanics at a reasonable rate.
ZephyrFate said:
I can remember there being some interesting side-missions within the towns and cities in past FF games. Also, I remember the chocobo breeding in FF7 that eventually got you the 'Knights of the Round' materia. They had more to those games than simply just killing something and moving on to same damn thing again.
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