okay so finding a doom menu font is hell but i really want to see Icon of Sin but the spawned enemies all have twitter eggs for heads and John Romero says MSILANRUOJ NI SCIHTE TUOBA S'TI, YLLAUTCA
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okay so finding a doom menu font is hell but i really want to see Icon of Sin but the spawned enemies all have twitter eggs for heads and John Romero says MSILANRUOJ NI SCIHTE TUOBA S'TI, YLLAUTCA
I'm going to ignore the comparison to religion because it's still too ridiculous for me to take seriously, but the comparison to a political group is good because #gamergate is inherently political in nature.My guess, and this is only a guess, but my guess is that the same people who will ridicule anyone at all for believing there is more to GG than trolling female developers, would also object to condemning every member of a religion or political group due to the horrible actions of a few.
Woah there partner. Your subjective opinion about the art style on the cover of the box is something you should keep to yourself.
I interviewed a supporter of GamerGate for IBTimes UK. His name is Barry Smith, a 35-year-old supermarket shelf-stacker from Dundee, Scotland.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/gamergate-...l-movement-its-goals-threats-violence-1471560
Super disappointing, but I'll hold off till I see what he has to say tomorrow. Maybe he just drops the whole journalism nonsense and focuses entirely on perceived outsiders (feminist) encroaching on established nerd turf, which is what a few of the emails he's posted to the blog the last few days have been about.
Whatever the premise it was founded on, today there are people who believe it is about ethics, and who don't condone the nonsense. My theme is don't ridicule them, focus just on the trolls. Divide and conquer. Don't make enemies where there are probably none just to be declared right. But I have long since learned my lesson that there is no point trying to convince anyone of a different path towards dealing with the trolls. Best of luck everyone, I'll return to the sidelines again to see who wins. The GG wallets or the people who want the industry to stop dipping their hands into said wallets.
Anyone else subscribe to the Dish by Andrew Sullivan? He's been a favorite writer of mine for years, and I'm awaiting the post he references but:
Super disappointing, but I'll hold off till I see what he has to say tomorrow. Maybe he just drops the whole journalism nonsense and focuses entirely on perceived outsiders (feminist) encroaching on established nerd turf, which is what a few of the emails he's posted to the blog the last few days have been about.
Anyone else subscribe to the Dish by Andrew Sullivan? He's been a favorite writer of mine for years, and I'm awaiting the post he references but:
Super disappointing, but I'll hold off till I see what he has to say tomorrow. Maybe he just drops the whole journalism nonsense and focuses entirely on perceived outsiders (feminist) encroaching on established nerd turf, which is what a few of the emails he's posted to the blog the last few days have been about.
I just seriously want a gamergater to outline what ethics he means. I am perfectly willing to talk to them about it! It's just never about specific ethical concerns, it's usually "AND YOU'RE AGAINST ETHICS?!"
Andrew Sullivan is anti-feminist? That's horribly disappointing.Anyone else subscribe to the Dish by Andrew Sullivan? He's been a favorite writer of mine for years, and I'm awaiting the post he references but:
Super disappointing, but I'll hold off till I see what he has to say tomorrow. Maybe he just drops the whole journalism nonsense and focuses entirely on perceived outsiders (feminist) encroaching on established nerd turf, which is what a few of the emails he's posted to the blog the last few days have been about.
Anyone else subscribe to the Dish by Andrew Sullivan? He's been a favorite writer of mine for years, and I'm awaiting the post he references but:
That's disappointing. I used to read a ton of Andrew Sullivan, he was one of the most progressive voices in the news.
People against gamergate are as bad as gamergate because......??
Has this been answered?
I'm not sure focusing on the supposed encroachment (Hi, I've been playing games since the original Super Mario Bros) would be any better. I mean, I guess it gets rid of the ridiculous facade, but what's left is still a highly narrow and jaundiced view of what gaming should be.
As for Mr. Sullivan, I know some people started following him as they saw him as a good progressive and/or libertarian thinker, but I long ago picked up that it's more that he clicked with those general mindsets on various things while being wildly in other directions on many other significant issues.
Thanks for sharing. I liked how the linked video referenced research and data on the topic. Numbers are always good to know.Anyone else subscribe to the Dish by Andrew Sullivan? He's been a favorite writer of mine for years, and I'm awaiting the post he references but:
Super disappointing, but I'll hold off till I see what he has to say tomorrow. Maybe he just drops the whole journalism nonsense and focuses entirely on perceived outsiders (feminist) encroaching on established nerd turf, which is what a few of the emails he's posted to the blog the last few days have been about.
LOL. This is kinda my point though. There's almost nothing in a review that would "objective" beside the game not breaking when you pop in the disc or press start. Gamergaters really should be asked to explicitly state what "objective" means instead of just speaking in vague generalities since I'm convinced that they don't a clue what it means. It has to be more than objective review = review I agree with, biased unethical review = review I disagree with.
I was confused for the longest time about GG because I thought their "ethics in video game journalism" excuse didn't make any sense because they didn't seem to be going after any ethical breaches in gaming journalism. Then I started reading interviews of Gaters to see their point of view and learned that the unethical behavior they're made about isn't things like advertisers cozying up to journalists, it's stuff like Bayonetta 2 getting a 7.5 and other issues of reviews/op-eds including socially progressive points of view. Their supposed "unethical conduct" is just journalists talking about stuff that they don't believe has a place in gaming. Feminist/progressive points of view are "corruption" in th minds of these people.
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This is the first time I've made a gif like this, I felt inspired
People were wondering if TotalBiscuit was explicitly pro-GG. He made this tweet a couple weeks ago.
https://twitter.com/Totalbiscuit/status/520242699082145792
The impression I get is that they are arguing to keep political opinion out of game reviews. I don't think when they say 'objective' reviews, they mean it literally. I take it as they actually mean keep personal politics out reviews and just focus on things like graphics, sound, playability etc.
But that's just me trying to make sense of something that makes very little sense to me. There is a lot of confused thought around.
People were wondering if TotalBiscuit was explicitly pro-GG. He made this tweet a couple weeks ago.
https://twitter.com/Totalbiscuit/status/520242699082145792
And this:
https://twitter.com/Totalbiscuit/status/519177354753880065
People were wondering if TotalBiscuit was explicitly pro-GG. He made this tweet a couple weeks ago.
https://twitter.com/Totalbiscuit/status/520242699082145792
And this:
https://twitter.com/Totalbiscuit/status/519177354753880065
I really hate when they use that girl character haha. Also, never heard of this biscuit guy, but I guess I shouldn't bother to get to know him now.
Also, how can someone support an organization that makes personal threats, and then immediately say that they don't condone personal threats?
Got into another argument with a GGer. I showed proof like they asked, linking that storify with Mike Cernovich, and all those people listed on Medium. The response I got was "It sounds like they just disagree with feminists, rude comments are a non-issue."
I stated they were actively shielding them and the response? "Yes"
I just have no words.
That's great. And it's not just Swedish developers on there.Swedish developers sign declaration against sexism and abuse. Includes Dice, Starbreeze, Paradox, Mojang, Massive, and other devs.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articl...elopers-sign-declaration-against-sexism-abuse
I was waiting for that one.
He's not the one who said that. Twas this person.NickFire, I'm still lost here. I don't get how what you discussed is, as you said, "as bonkers and vicious as the arguments gamergaters use"
People were wondering if TotalBiscuit was explicitly pro-GG. He made this tweet a couple weeks ago.
https://twitter.com/Totalbiscuit/status/520242699082145792
And this:
https://twitter.com/Totalbiscuit/status/519177354753880065
Anyone else subscribe to the Dish by Andrew Sullivan? He's been a favorite writer of mine for years, and I'm awaiting the post he references but:
Super disappointing, but I'll hold off till I see what he has to say tomorrow. Maybe he just drops the whole journalism nonsense and focuses entirely on perceived outsiders (feminist) encroaching on established nerd turf, which is what a few of the emails he's posted to the blog the last few days have been about.
Thanks for sharing. I liked how the linked video referenced research and data on the topic. Numbers are always good to know.
People were wondering if TotalBiscuit was explicitly pro-GG. He made this tweet a couple weeks ago.
https://twitter.com/Totalbiscuit/status/520242699082145792
And this:
https://twitter.com/Totalbiscuit/status/519177354753880065
If anything, gamergate will have allowed these guys to learn plenty of new big words. They'll be able to pwn noobs at Scrabble!
It's ironic, since his videos about games media and specific definitions was what got me interested in ethics in journalist and got me reading the DoritoGate GAF threadI wonder what happened recently that made him feel like finally throwing in his fedora in support. I can't think of a single good thing that might have finally stopped him being 'oh so neutral'.
I'm sure he'll write a big long blog post about how amazing he is that mentions it.
People against gamergate are as bad as gamergate because......??
Has this been answered?
You know for sure that stuff was found that lead polygon and couple other sites changing policy. Most it over journalist funding kickstarter or a patreon.You say 'advertisers are taking notice' but notice of what?
What unethical journalism are you using as justification for the pulling of advertising.
So far I've seen three answers to this.
"Leigh Alexander's article on Gamasutra was unethical" (It wasn't. It was opinion. Getting intel to pull ad dollars because of an opinion is explicity anti-journalism)
"Gawker is pro-bullying!" (Apart from this having nothing to do with Games Journalism, it was a dumb joke he's since apologised for. This is monumentally dumb for a movement about ethics in games journalism)
"GameJournoPros! Collusion!" (This is about as close as it gets but 90% of the people citing it clearly have not even read the cherrypicked thread Milo pulled out of the google group. There's no evidence of collusion on anything in there and is in fact mostly arguing. Saying an online version of a Press Club exists is not evidence of corruption.)
So please, if you're going to hold up removal of advertising dollars from sites as a victory for ethical journalism, show your fucking working.
OR YOU COULD LEAVE BEFORE JUSTIFYING ANYTHING ABOUT YOUR POSITION THAT'S COOL TOO
Oops, my bad. Got posters mixed upThat's great. And it's not just Swedish developers on there.
The Scottish Games Network, which appears to be the Scottish ESA, also said a thing a couple of days ago.
I was waiting for that one.
He's not the one who said that. Twas this person.
MIlo said on npr that he got a syringe in the mail. People on both sides have been doxxed.
https://twitter.com/Nero/status/513666683916255232
to pretend its not having on both sides is silly.
Seems both sides do not want to debate the topic at hand. I blame twitter..... that is where most of the junk comes from it seems. WIth the 160 limit it really doesnt lead it left to any kind of debate, just one liners.
Look: whatever case the gamergate peeps have, they have botched it with their tactics. Those tactics have been repellent in every sense of the word. But bullying has occurred on both sides, and only one side was bullied before.
Lol yeah, it's exactly the same on both sides! Hahaha
MIlo said on npr that he got a syringe in the mail. People on both sides have been doxxed.
https://twitter.com/Nero/status/513666683916255232
to pretend its not having on both sides is silly.
Seems both sides do not want to debate the topic at hand. I blame twitter..... that is where most of the junk comes from it seems. WIth the 160 limit it really doesnt lead it left to any kind of debate, just one liners.
LOL yeah, that EXACTLY what i said!!!
hahahahahaha
Milo himself will tell you that the topic at hand is 'SJWs'. And we're definitely debating those issues.MIlo said on npr that he got a syringe in the mail. People on both sides have been doxxed.
to pretend its not having on both sides is silly.
Seems both sides do not want to debate the topic at hand. I blame twitter..... that is where most of the junk comes from it seems. WIth the 160 limit it really doesnt lead it left to any kind of debate, just one liners.
You know for sure that stuff was found that lead polygon and couple other sites changing policy. Most it over journalist funding kickstarter or a patreon.
It just goes back to people not really wanted to have the debate in the first place. They just want to talk about the issue on "their side."
MIlo said on npr that he got a syringe in the mail. People on both sides have been doxxed.
https://twitter.com/Nero/status/513666683916255232
to pretend its not having on both sides is silly.
Seems both sides do not want to debate the topic at hand. I blame twitter..... that is where most of the junk comes from it seems. WIth the 160 limit it really doesnt lead it left to any kind of debate, just one liners.
You know for sure that stuff was found that lead polygon and couple other sites changing policy. Most it over journalist funding kickstarter or a patreon.
It just goes back to people not really wanted to have the debate in the first place. They just want to talk about the issue on "their side."