-shadow-
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Could it be that the joy-con are just busted because of this instead of the tablet? I mean the slam seems like it could kill the buttons.
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Gamexplain Explains the Joy-Con Desyncing Problem
- Thread starter Tom Nook Sawyer
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Could it be that the joy-con are just busted because of this instead of the tablet? I mean the slam seems like it could kill the buttons.
UberTag
Member
I don't care where you work. If you're dropping the product your employer has tasked you to demo on the ground, I'm not going to think highly of you.
Jeff's lucky he runs the place so he's his own employer.
Yeah, i'm sitting this one out till christmas.
Maybe there will be some games aside from Zelda.
Who am i kidding... i can't wait till december to play Zelda..
it's exactly 10 (
out of 10
Dark Cloud
Member
Just like any product and you drop it there's a chance it may not work the same. I've dropped my phone and the screen cracked, but I wasn't mad at Apple. That was my fault.
Anyways, I'm hoping Nintendo has more comments on the real story being the joycon range issue.
Anyways, I'm hoping Nintendo has more comments on the real story being the joycon range issue.
that might very much be the reason. If you drop your switch, it's likely gonna land "joycon first". If it lands with the bottom edge first, you'd have quite a forceful push exactly along the direction of release, which might have broken / loosened the latch / lock / whatever.
like, if you dropped it like that, the latch holding the blue joycon in place would pretty much have to absorb most of the force of the impact.
I also heard that if you hit the Switch hard, a few times with a big enough hammer, it can break after a while.
What are the odds ?
Both Joy-cons at the same time though? They both seem to slide off very easily.
that's true, but when you drop something, it tends to bounce a bit ... might have been some freak accident.
We'll just have to wait and see.
Seeing as there doesn't seem to be any kind of "impressions about the hardware" embargo, i could imagine some outlet might pick this 'issue' up and do some investigation / report on their impressions.
PSFan
Member
Dumb jokes aside. The joycons sliding in from the top concerned me about the Switch being suspended like that in portable mode. The locks could weaken over time or the latches could wear, and the Switch has a risk of sliding out while holding it.
Perhaps Nintendo should have designed it so that the joycons slide up into either side of the Switch giving it better support in portable mode and reducing the risk of it falling out.
I could see it falling out with weakened latches after a time, especially if kids are going to run around with it.
Perhaps Nintendo should have designed it so that the joycons slide up into either side of the Switch giving it better support in portable mode and reducing the risk of it falling out.
I could see it falling out with weakened latches after a time, especially if kids are going to run around with it.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Sliding off easily seems intentional.
Sliding off accidentally would be a problem.
Sliding off accidentally would be a problem.
It'll be pretty easy to confirm if the latch not working was a result of them dropping it.
It's not the only one in the wild.
Someone try this:
It's not the only one in the wild.
Someone try this:
IlGialloMondadori
Member
We shouldn't investigate causal relationships, but instead we should panic about potentials and what ifs, which is why we pay for online multiplayer.
Makes perfect sense. I see a doctoral thesis in your future.
Yeah, but how would you remove the joycons when you dock the unit.
It's by design and can't be done the other way around, sadly.
Wouldn't work when switching from using the joycons in Docked mode to attaching them for Portable mode.
GiantBomb, yesterday's unprofessional fridays. Which is a premium video.
http://www.giantbomb.com/videos/unprofessional-fridays-02242017/2300-11895/
PSFan
Member
Remove them before you dock the unit?
Remove Switch from dock, attach joycons. Play in portable mode.
Lord of Ostia
Member
Don't really think they can be sure that the problem is widespread if they dropped their unit on concrete. I guess it means the unit isn't super durable, but that's not surprising given what it is.
ShockingAlberto
Member
They'll never get lost that way. Probably.
Vanguard771
Member
While I can't measure the force he was exerting in the gif it certainly didn't seem "easy" to push the switch down. The joycons released separately in a jerking motion instead of releasing simultaneously in a smooth motion.
Yeah they'll fix it like they always do: by putting out a revision that unfucks it and you have to buy.
He pushed down on them seperately. That's why they didn't release at the same time.
yeah, no ... the inverse would be even worse. instead of docking your joycons into the tablet from the top (with both hands, in one smooth movement) and picking it up that way, you'd be doing this when going from docked -> portable:
* remove tablet from dock
* attach one joycon to the tablet
* attach the 2nd joycon to the tablet
that'd be so much worse than just designing rails that hold the console firmly in place (which we should still assume they do)
GiantBreadbug
Member
Don't lose your stuff?
ViolentP
Member
We pay for online multiplayer due to ignorant consumerism. Definitively believing that this is either a factual issue or a factual cause with no real evidence is ignorant.
Not sure why you two are getting so defensive. You could have just asked what I meant.
Dismissing it as a non issue is more ignorant. If we keep asking questions then maybe Nintendo will actually release a statement then we can find out if this is a real issue or not. If we dismiss it and if it's a real issue, then we're willingly getting screwed over. So until we have an official response, the correct course of action is to keep the heat on Nintendo.
Dark Cloud
Member
Or you know just be responsible and take care of your stuff?
ViolentP
Member
I totally agree with you regarding the desyncing issue. I personally believe the most detrimental thing in this situation is Nintendo's silence. I was previously referring to the claims that the latch is an issue. It's very possible it is circumstantial. Desyncing however, is most certainly not.
ShockingAlberto
Member
You guys are serious? They're two tiny little controllers, both of which are needed for operation of this in handheld mode. It was likely designed exactly the way it is because losing them is a concern.
Are you seriously going into defense mode over a hypothetical Switch that was designed upside down
ViolentP
Member
I'd wager neither of them have any erasers on their pencils.
Many a Switch are going to be the victims of nerd rage.
IlGialloMondadori
Member
I actually had no idea what you meant.
The joycon interference issue (it's not desyncing damnit) is definitely an issue and needs to be addressed.
Dropping the system and/or forcing the joycons to detach is not.
lol Alberto have you been engaging in many switch threads recently?
ViolentP
Member
I just call it desyncing because that seems to be the term that has little confusion about what it's referring but yeah, seems more akin to interference than an actual disconnect.
Regarding your second point, that is if the dropping is the reason they were so easy to detach. I understand how that correlation could be made but for me, it isn't something I would file under evidence just yet. That's why I believe that one, we shouldn't panic about loose latches just yet and two, we shouldn't ignore the possibility of one.
It is a toy, it should be child proof! Especially if it's Nintendo. MS and Sony sell dodgy crappy build quality stuff that you can't have kids near.. not Nintendo. They usually build things that are sturdy as ROCKS!
Something you can give your child with little to no worry. So yes, people are right to be worried if it goes that easy!
Not wrong of course of Sony and MS have a different target audience. That is why they are more build for looks than function. Nintendo builds for everybody. And yes it IS a toy, and there is nothing wrong with that. Humans love to play
.I don't think it looked easy to detach at all--Jeff applied force. If you're going to apply force to such a small latch of course it'll defeat the purpose of the latch.
Also I don't understand where the sliding off sentiment is coming from. have none of you watched impression videos of this device? The rail is snug and tight on the switch. Even if you broke the latch somehow you'd need to be jiggling the device up and down to get a sliding effect. Not talking about you specifically, but the chicken little syndrome around here is palpable. There are legitimate concerns with the switch. The desyncing issue is one of them, and Nintendos handling of it is another. This giant bomb issue is nothing.
LordRaptor
Member
If its a defective unit, it is a non-issue though.
Something that gives with resistance when manually forced is better designed than something that doesn't give and snaps or breaks when manually forced.
Actually it is possible to design it like that: A rail system of multiple rails where you slide your joycons in from the underside up after placing them into receptive holes in the system
. Push in the holes, slide up, latch closed when lifting up by the weight of the unit .Still I want it properly tried out. Break a few of these things in the process. Then give it the "Little Bastard Score" between 0 and 10. 10 being a rock, 0 being a raw egg
. A Nintendo product should be about a 7 on that scale. Anything less isn't worthy of having the Nintendo name IMO.
ViolentP
Member
I mean, I will always maintain a small level of reservation until I can have one in my hands and go through the trials myself. That said, I am currently watching that episode of UPF because I'm curious to read their actual reaction when the above moment occurred. It's quite possible that the evidence proving this is a non-issue may already be available to us.
I do agree with you on the Chicken Little syndrome, however. The other half that will sell a problem as a feature is just as obnoxious.
Considering all that technology packed into the joycons, honestly 80 dollars is a steal.
ViolentP
Member
Only after the Switch has come and gone will I know if those $80 were worth it.
Professor Lexicovermis
Member
NINTENDO TROUBLE TICKET
Problem: Switch unit experiencing slightly loose Joy-Con latches after unit was dropped.
Resolution: Never send free systems to reviewers that drop them on concrete then complain when things break.
Problem: Switch unit experiencing slightly loose Joy-Con latches after unit was dropped.
Resolution: Never send free systems to reviewers that drop them on concrete then complain when things break.
The issue is that many people don't see the value in all the tech.
-shadow-
Member
Yeah I guess they might've just busted the latch/nub that keeps the joy-con in place. Do they have another set of joy-con? Might be an issue solved like that. Though still not ideal of course.
So I was listening to the waypoint podcast (great podcast about zelda and horizon btw), and at 48 minutes Patrick Klepek, I believe, said that his sources commented on the devkits not having these Joy-con problems. Does that point moreso towards a Hardware issue?
I wasn't being serious
Haunted
Member
THERE'S GOT TO BE A BETTER WAY!.
Someone slow down and black and white this .gif. :lol
WrenchNinja
Member
If you were simply excited, you wouldn't attack someone like that.