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EA and other publishers might have been pushing for it and Microsoft actually did it.It's amazing that Sony has common sense?
It's more than common sense, really.
EA and other publishers might have been pushing for it and Microsoft actually did it.It's amazing that Sony has common sense?
100% agree. If they think they can get away with some stuff that will make them more money they will try to. If the general internet public calls them on it... they won't. It's that simple.
I don't know this for a fact but there were so many different sources that said the xbone was always online. And then the orth thing happened and people went completely apeshit. A month later microsoft announces it only has to check in once a day. It's still not great but I really do believe it was the entire blow up around Orth that changed it from 3 minutes (which many sources said) to once a day.
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whydoy think itson1ce a day chkeck nowaoin.stead of 24.3 hours alwaysonlne..? HINTHINT: wasntthatpreorth
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If This turns out to be true, Sony just won a Generation long Plus subscriber.
Unlike the rest of the board, I don't forget how Anti-consumer Sony can be too, but they never push further than they feel they can get away with.
If they have scrapped the Used games DRM I have to reward them with my support.
Didn't they change their story several times though? While this is some guy commenting on 'things he has heard', most of the quotes we had about the Xbox One came from Microsoft staffers/support staff themselves, iirc.
I don't see Microsoft saying, "Hey guys, we got a ton of Youtube thumbs down over the last few weeks and now Sony isn't doing DRM, let's pull the plug on this DRM system we've been working on for months and this retail infrastructure we've already developed and say goodbye to years of potential used game profits so game forums can calm the hell down."
So is it coming or isn't it?
And if it isn't then why isn't Sony shouting it from the rooftops themselves?
It may be that Microsoft's setup was more sophisticated but by proxy also harder to disable. Sony could well have just set it with codes you input much like a PC game or even the online passes, and either was going to require them but will now make them optional, or made them optional in the first place but will now not even allow them to survive QA, but Microsoft has so much invested in it that they simply can't back out, just keep going and brace for the worst.
Would be nice if the backlash caused both of them to do a complete backpedal. Have to wonder how the publishers that pushed for this (assuming they did) will ultimately react, I imagine EA'd be left flatfooted on playing favorites, but maybe they'd instead get so desperate as to seriously move to PC entirely or nearly entirely (I doubt the others pushed AS hard, EA's the one with the history of pulling games due to the platform holder allowing competition in their preferred genre.)
What Fallout 4 rumours?
so what is going on?
Are they or aren't they?
If they do then fuck everything....
Nintendo will get my money this year it seems.
But if what famousmortimer says is true then it means that Yoshida was lying about Sony never considered an always online function.
Damn. :/
So is it coming or isn't it?
And if it isn't then why isn't Sony shouting it from the rooftops themselves?
Has the OP even been back in the thread to explain his blatant mischaracterization of Geoff's quote?
deserves it's own thread imo, interesting that Blow is taking such a vocal tone in public about it.
Given it's Capcom wouldn't it make sense to be multiplatform?
Even though that's more or less identical to what Sony are apparently doing?
They already have one of the best selling games this gen, and may realize that not only is it unlikely to dramatically boost their own sales BUT each of these people becomes a potential DLC customer, and does it REALLY matter that much if they buy a used copy only to pay $50 for their Season Pass variant? They practically bought a full game from them anyway, except they got a much fatter return.Interesting to note, but Activision never used The online pass system in the first place so im not sure they would bother here either. Who knows though
I've seen some speculation it might be exclusive to Xbox One? Not sure if there's any actual substance to them though
I'm confident that i'm right as of right now. I can't say with certainty that things won't change again. Which is part of the reason I didn't want to post as well, because I can be right now, something can change, then I'm wrong... GAF ban... sad famousmortimer.
But, I opened my mouth and do stand by everything i've said.
To be fair, we still should not back off on these companies, more pressure on them and threats to their profit margins can change policies. I had already started contacting consumer rights organizations for Microsoft. If we find out Sony is going down that path come E3 i will do the same. The only way to change anything is to fight back.
If they have actually chosen to drop it I expect confirmation at E3.
Given how MS has been acting these last few years, sure.
I'm confident that i'm right as of right now. I can't say with certainty that things won't change again. Which is part of the reason I didn't want to post as well, because I can be right now, something can change, then I'm wrong... GAF ban... sad famousmortimer.
But, I opened my mouth and do stand by everything i've said.
I'm not sure they would have a choice though... MS is a publicly traded company, they only can go so far. I mean, MS may be a horrible company as a whole, but they cant be that stupid, they know that the used market is a 2 billion dollar thing.
I mean, with how MS has been doing with windows phone OS and windows 8, I'm not sure they would survive(this industry) such an event...
I'm not sure what the problem was with the original title before famousmortimer's post. It certainly seemed to be what Geoff was claiming.
It's amazing that Sony has common sense?
yea god forbid there is a bad rumor for Sony on the front page to discuss ...but let's have a thread for every idiotic rumor ever murmured about Xbox One
It was coming last week, isn't coming this week, and nobody knows about next week.
Fucks sake Sony, how did you think consumers were going to act to such a shitty practice in the first place?!
I understand and I thank you for your updates man. Please keep us posted if you hear more on this subject.I'm confident that i'm right as of right now. I can't say with certainty that things won't change again. Which is part of the reason I didn't want to post as well, because I can be right now, something can change, then I'm wrong... GAF ban... sad famousmortimer.
But, I opened my mouth and do stand by everything i've said.
yea god forbid there is a bad rumor for Sony on the front page to discuss ...but let's have a thread for every idiotic rumor ever murmured about Xbox One
Where I differ here is in not having any innate faith in the (largely unsupported) idea that Sony are somehow inherently more consumer-friendly than Microsoft.
Microsoft can afford for the XBONE to die a horrible horrible death and they would just shut the division and carry on.
At most I think it'd be more scared of consumers than actively more friendly, they may feel they won't succeed with a gambit like this as much, whereas Microsoft may feel they can take the chance. Which makes sense, Microsoft has a lot of mindshare now much like Sony did before the 360/PS3 launched, and Microsoft went full steam with Windows 8 despite the reactions people had to it. Sony likely stands more to gain from dumping the DRM than Microsoft does, whereas if the positions were reversed Sony might not give a damn.Where I differ here is in not having any innate faith in the (largely unsupported) idea that Sony are somehow inherently more consumer-friendly than Microsoft.
I'm also inclined to think it's less that they actively do not give a crap as that many do have a passion at these companies, but there's also many who are more pragmatic and detached, and they're likely the ones that get to call some of these shots.bu...bu...but Yoshida loves us!
I must be missing something, but considering implementing a used game DRM does not mean that sony every considered an always online function.
I really hope what Mortimer says is true, but people better start voicing their displeasure with DRM more now than ever.
seeing how respected this guy is on Gaf, im surprised nobody picked up on it.
That is what I meant, they wouldn't survive this industry(at least with the xbox1), the company would live on obviously.
Where I differ here is in not having any innate faith in the (largely unsupported) idea that Sony are somehow inherently more consumer-friendly than Microsoft.
100% agree. If they think they can get away with some stuff that will make them more money they will try to. If the general internet public calls them on it... they won't. It's that simple.
I don't know this for a fact but there were so many different sources that said the xbone was always online. And then the orth thing happened and people went completely apeshit. A month later microsoft announces it only has to check in once a day. It's still not great but I really do believe it was the entire blow up around Orth that changed it from 3 minutes (which many sources said) to once a day.
There wasn't a problem with it. It's exactly what Geoff was claiming and famousmortimer confirmed that it was true, just out of date.