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ChuckeRearmed
Member
Well Steam is a much bigger platform. Plus a lot of games have their own clients and accounts that manage the save files.
crackajack
Member
I wonder what happened to saves in the recent generations anyway. Some games take absurd space, even without some obvious Skyrim every object's location is saved nonsense, while others still manage to have reasonable sized saves. Especially replays in racing games or whatever take insane space. Iirc Driveclub had the biggest or among the biggest saves on PS4.
Cloud is nice to have for that but also taking so much space on fast but not really spacious SSDs is rather stupid and lazily implemented. It's almost like you are supposed to have a 5TB HDD just to move your saves somewhere...
The PS5 video clips for trophies are also an interesting idea that just eats up the limited storage.
Compressed PS5 games are often smaller than their PS4 version, but save space in SSD era is precious and save files need also compression, or trimed somehow else.
200MB limit is something but if games handle it just bad how is the player supposed to shrink it. This would need to be adressed with game devs and anything above would need to be negotiated with them, since probably they cause it?
Cloud is nice to have for that but also taking so much space on fast but not really spacious SSDs is rather stupid and lazily implemented. It's almost like you are supposed to have a 5TB HDD just to move your saves somewhere...
The PS5 video clips for trophies are also an interesting idea that just eats up the limited storage.
Compressed PS5 games are often smaller than their PS4 version, but save space in SSD era is precious and save files need also compression, or trimed somehow else.
200MB limit is something but if games handle it just bad how is the player supposed to shrink it. This would need to be adressed with game devs and anything above would need to be negotiated with them, since probably they cause it?
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Magic Carpet
Member
Does Sony host my Ghost of Tsushima PC saves? I signed in, but got no idea where those saves are beyond local.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
Gold Member
I don't think so. You can check your Steam Cloud Saves here - https://store.steampowered.com/account/remotestorage
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Who has over 200mb of cloud saves in a game?
Puscifer
Member
They own their own CDN and have millions of upon millions of repeat customers
GHG
Member
You never seen the community market on Steam?
Guilty_AI
Gold Member
usually rpgs with tons of autosaves. I remember my the witcher 3 saves balloning up quite a bit in size.
Dazraell
Gold Member
I guess it might be people who are playing a lot of RPGs and have shitton of saves. Seriously though, it's probably a safe threshold that doesn't affect majority of people, but the space they could get from removing it would still work with their target goals
West Texas CEO
GAF's Nicest Lunch Thief
My GB saves are in peril. 
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Many modern games have save files in the hundreds of MBs.
LazyParrot
Member
The original Deus Ex had save files that were 20+ megabytes each nearly 25 years ago, so you'd only need 10 to crack the 200 megabyte limit. I honestly have no idea how big the average save is these days, though.
Mr Moose
Member
Skyrim: Yeah, who?
Cyberpunk, GT7, Hogwarts, Death Stranding, Witcher 3 and so on, at least on console.
The Cockatrice
Banned
Thats kinda stupid and a massive L from gog. At least increase it to 500MB. Some games have huge save files. How are we advancing in tech, but at the same time regressing in basic features.
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GHG
Member
Yeh they take a flat 5% commission on every single item sold. Some of the CS and TF2 items go for crazy prices.
Spyxos
Gold Member
T4keD0wN
Member
CRPG players i imagine, currently at 22gb in Pathfinder WOTR in steam cloud (about 19,9gb in Baldurs gate 3, but that is on the disk)
Some games also save player profiles with downloaded content (player creations, maps, skins and so on).
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crackajack
Member
I try to understand some games- Outlast and its in the end pointless video capture-, but some games boggle my mind; Gravity Rush 2 is just ridiculous. All this game needs to save is quest: done or not, current selected costume.... That is basically a txt-list. It should be KB and not MB in the over average spheres.
smbu2000
Member
Well it seems like they just never update to use only the latest saves stored in the cloud. My cyberpunk playthrough cloud saves on gog are currently using 1.2GB. That’s from 300 plus manual saves and whatever autosaves they sync.
I have them all saved on my pc already though.
Save files also increase over time. Early ones are like 1.5 or 1.6MB each. Later ones are almost 4.0-4.5MB each.
I have them all saved on my pc already though.
Save files also increase over time. Early ones are like 1.5 or 1.6MB each. Later ones are almost 4.0-4.5MB each.
That wonderful 30% they charge on purchases.
U n i o n 0015
Member
I just checked my Witcher 3 save, it's 400 MB. That's just autosave BS that the game did, so it's hilarious to me that CDPR is implementing a policy in which their game is the biggest offender in my library.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Yep. They use their 30% cut to pay for things that benefit the user, instead of passing it onto the customer.
LazyParrot
Member
The most popular and profitable games on Steam tend to be multiplayer only, and those don't really have save files to begin with. On top of that, Valve gets a 30% cut even if a game is only played for a couple of hours or not at all, which happens a lot more often than you'd think. The average game completion rate on Steam is only like 10%.
bender
What time is it?
While I don't share that wonder, I do tend to think people vastly underestimate Valve's infrastructure costs.
xrnzaaas
Member
What year is it. Pretty much any bigger game with manual saves or stuff like liveries / own creations will easily match or exceed this result, maybe even with a single save file.
I always perform manual backups to my usb drives, but I can see this being a dealbreaker for people who play newer games through GOG (or even Witcher & Cyberpunk - they both have manual save options and tons of things for the saves to remember).
I always perform manual backups to my usb drives, but I can see this being a dealbreaker for people who play newer games through GOG (or even Witcher & Cyberpunk - they both have manual save options and tons of things for the saves to remember).
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ozz ex machina
Member
I had a tonne of saves for witcher and cyberpunk, witcher was 260 meg cyber 150. Expecting anything but a handful of your most recent saves on the cloud for free is greedy and naïve in my opinion. I don't see that as a right and it's certainly not a dealbreaker for any sane person, especially when you can still store them locally.
ozz ex machina
Member
You say "somehow" like microsoft dont own pretty much the most cloud infrastructure in the world and Valve are one of the most profitable companies in the world.
You live in a fantasy. I'd much rather support something like GOG that is more pro consumer. But by all means go and use other platforms. I assure you this is not an issue for most people apart from weirdos.
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ReyBrujo
Member
They would need to pay that fee continuously as Gog is paying it monthly which would turn Gog subscription-based for determined games.
StereoVsn
Member
Yes, that’s of course understood. But should be an option.
Ironically CDPR's games like TW3 and CP has huge file sizes for their save games.
Shake Your Rump
Gold Member
I’m pretty sure each Final Fantasy XV save was 500MB alone.
Jigsaah
Gold Member
My Baldur's Gate 3 saves are like a hoarder's home.
MrRenegade
Banned
Don't store saves in cloud... it's a privacy nightmare. If anyone wants to profile you, they just look at one of the rpgs you played, what actions have you done and essentially see what kind of person you are.
MrRenegade
Banned
IIRC they have their own cloud infra. Not depending on aws or other atrociously hipriced thing.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
My 1.18GB of Witcher 3 is doomed.
Codeblew
Member
Of course they already do that.
Nikodemos
Member
200 MB is pretty low. Some saves can explode in size as you advance in the game world. And some titles use a snapshot system (as
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LazyParrot
mentioned, Deus Ex was one of the first to do so), which inherently generates large save files. The Original Sin series (and, ironically, CDPR's own titles) also use the snapshot system.
acidagfc
Member
This was surprisingly well-organized.
I was sent to a webpage with my saves, showing how much space they take and the ability to delete one by one or with multi-selection.
Unsurprisingly, Cyberpunk and Divinity OS2 were the largest for me, I just deleted all the autosaves for them and went below 200MB.
I was sent to a webpage with my saves, showing how much space they take and the ability to delete one by one or with multi-selection.
Unsurprisingly, Cyberpunk and Divinity OS2 were the largest for me, I just deleted all the autosaves for them and went below 200MB.