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Going South: An economic proposal for Mexican admission into the United States

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Ecotic

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Mexico has never fully recovered from the Mexican-American War, where in the post-war treaty they conceded half their territory including California, Texas and additional land that now makes up 7 other U.S. states in whole or in part. Still, for a country that remains a fourth the size of the contiguous United States and has 120 million people, they hit far below their weight and are plagued by a perpetual drug war with Mexican cartels that has killed over 120,000 people as of 2013; violence whose consequences spill into the U.S. Recently the U.S. Department of Agriculture released its projections for the world’s top 20 economies in 2030 and placed Mexico below 7 other countries with fewer people. What Mexico truly needs is a massive infusion of investment capital and a firm set of governmental laws and institutions which instill investor faith and further drive down the risk and cost of capital.

The United States meanwhile faces its own challenges as the 21st Century continues on. The economic dominance we have enjoyed since World War II is destined to end as China and India further develop. It comes down to sheer population, we have 320 million people, and China and India each have a billion more people than that. The European Union already has over 500 million people with many potential countries still awaiting membership. The United Nations even projects Nigeria to have over 800 million people by 2100.

Economic power is more than just bragging rights, there is a reason why Japanese Prime Minister Shinzō Abe recently apologized before the U.S. Congress for World War II atrocities while offering nothing for his smaller Asian neighbors, and there is a reason why the U.S. continues to set preferential terms for trade deals like the Trans-Pacific Partnership. The larger and stronger our economy the better our bargaining position is, and countries like the Philippines are more likely to give the U.S. favorable treatment when we’re able to delivery timely aid on an aircraft carrier after disasters like Typhoon Hainan. Also, the ability to exert painful economic sanctions and attach conditions to aid packages is a fundamental part of American soft power. Economic size matters, and without intervention by 2050 the U.S. will have to transition into a multipolar world where the balance of power is shared between the United States, China, India, and the European Union.

The Big Idea: American corporations and individuals have trillions of dollars parked overseas that will never be repatriated home because of tax evasion. The United States should offer Mexico admission into the U.S. with the stipulation that if they accept, all offshore American money will be granted an indefinite tax holiday provided it is invested into the Mexican states. Combined with the Mexican states now being under United States law and governmental institutions, the risk on normal non-offshore capital will be substantially lowered and Mexico would be flooded with investment capital. The Mexican states could rapidly achieve sufficient parity with the rest of the United States within a few decades. Asian tigers such as Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan modernized in a similar time frame without the benefit of such an extreme injection of capital.

By 2050, a new, much larger and more populous United States of America would easily be able to remain at the global forefront. The new, bilingual nation would be given a strong competitive advantage in doing business with an increasingly prosperous Central and South America and help steer our focus away from the Middle East and closer to home. Tens of millions of Mexicans could be brought from near poverty to first world standards in little more than a generation. Geographically, the new United States would trump competitors China, India, and the European Union by having more coastline, more navigable rivers, more deep water harbors, more renewable resources, and more space with a lower population density. Mexico isn’t even opposed to the idea, as a Mexican University survey in 2013 showed 60% of respondents in favor of joining the United States.

Synergistic benefits to Mexican admission:

1. Quell drug violence – The U.S. military and intelligence organizations could do what Mexico couldn’t, and quickly destroy the Mexican cartels. Tens of thousands of lives could be saved, and the violence that plagues the Southwestern United States could be eradicated with American resources put to the task.

2. Demographics – The United States as it is now is relatively blessed to not have a declining and stagnant population, like Europe or soon even China, but Mexico's median age is more than a decade younger than the United States, and Mexican admission into the Union would make the United States' demographics younger still, and provide more young able-bodied workers to support and offset America’s elderly.

3. Elimination of Trade Barriers and Economies of Agglomeration – The United States is Mexico’s largest trading partner, and Mexico is America’s third largest. Admission into the Union would erase the trade tariffs between the two former neighbors and the new United States would become richer as more gains from trade are to be kept, and more economic production is now profitable (tariffs increase cost of production, dissuading economic activity). As more economic activity such as manufacturing is diverted into the Mexican States away from Asia this would weaken China, our primary strategic foe going forward, as well as reduce transportation costs and produce cheaper goods. Also, when Mexican and American industries previously separated by tariffs and borders converge in the marketplace economies of scale, conglomeration, and network effects would inevitably result that would increase the overall aggregate output by pushing the costs of production down.

4. Free up factors of production – Borders create inefficiencies in distributing land, labor, and capital to their most efficient use, no matter how well constructed the best free trade agreements are. With Mexican admission into the United States these resources can flow more efficiently to where they’re needed. Laborers from America can move into Mexican manufacturing plants, farm workers in Mexico can move to California and the southeastern U.S. where they’re needed, and previous capital from American corporations which had no further use in growing the corporation (such as dividends paid out by AT&T) can move into Mexico where they’ll have newfound use.

5. Increased domestic market – Mexican states that have been brought to parity with the rest of the United States would increase the American domestic market by at least 30%, resulting in more jobs to cater to that demand, and an increase in portfolio returns for retirement and savings.

6. Border patrol savings and increased homeland security – The new U.S. southern border with Guatemala and Belize would be much smaller and thus much easier to defend, saving money and resources, and making the country more secure.

7. Military spending reduction – The Mexican military would be largely redundant. The United States military as it exists now is too large given our population size and lack of threats by nation-states such the old Soviet Union, but it could be kept the same size or even reduced after Mexican admission and still be easily sufficient for the new, larger United States. Military spending as a percentage of the budget would thus be reduced, freeing money for other uses.

8. Reunification – Mexico would be reunited with its lost territories under the new United States, and Mexicans would be free to become Californians or Texans again. Conversely, Americans seeking a more perpetually warm climate would have more than Florida and Southern California to turn to.

9. Seat at the table – Any idea such as this could be construed as an American advocating American imperialism and an attempt to swallow up Mexico. At 120 million people, ‘swallowing up’ Mexico would not be remotely possible. The Mexican States would have roughly 30% of the seats at the table of the new United States, if divided proportionally by population, and it is very probable they would have more than that as the decades roll on, given Mexico’s lower median age and higher birth rate. The Mexican States would be well-represented after admission and be an integral voice in the new United States. Mexico would no sooner lose its identity than Vermont and Texas have become homogenized and indistinguishable from each other by being parts of the same country.

10. Hegemonic Stability – A well known theory in the field of International Relations is that the world is more peaceful when there's a world hegemon to set and enforce the norms of relations between nations. There's evidence that this is true, as during Pax Britannica (1814 - 1914) and Pax Americana (1945 - present day) the world has seen relative peace, and during the interwar period (1919 - 1939) when there was no clear world hegemon global trade broke down and the world devolved into regionalism, conflict, and ultimately world war. Will a multipolar world remain as peaceful as the post-WWII order has been? The simmering territorial disputes in the South China Sea as China attempts to steal the territorial waters from its smaller neighbors may provide the answer.

11. Human Achievement – Small nations such as the Solomon Islands don’t have a Center for Disease Control or NASA. Europe has a space agency only by combining the efforts of 22 member nations. Such endeavors to further human achievement are only capable with large scale collusion in nations such as the United States where the economic tax-base, educational institutions, and a large educated populace come together. A few decades after Mexican admission into the Union, the new United States will have far greater capacity to achieve such dreams as exploring Europa, ending Alzheimer’s Disease, or curing cancer. The ultimate goal of Mexican admission into the United States is to create something greater than themselves.

TL;DR Summary: American corporations and its wealthy elite have trillions of dollars parked overseas that won’t ever be brought back home. The United States could offer Mexico admission into the Union with the stipulation that all American offshore capital will be granted an indefinite tax holiday on any money invested into Mexico. The Mexican states under American laws and with this capital infusion could then rapidly equalize with the rest of the U.S. to make a new, stronger United States that could effectively hold off coming challenges from China, India, the European Union, and even Nigeria later in this century.

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The Big Idea: American corporations and individuals have trillions of dollars parked overseas that will never be repatriated home because of tax evasion. The United States should offer Mexico admission into the U.S. with the stipulation that if they accept, all offshore American money will be granted an indefinite tax holiday provided it is invested into the Mexican states. Combined with the Mexican states now being under United States law and governmental institutions, the risk on normal non-offshore capital will be substantially lowered and Mexico would be flooded with investment capital. The Mexican states could rapidly achieve sufficient parity with the rest of the United States within a few decades. Asian tigers such as Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan modernized in a similar time frame without the benefit of such an extreme injection of capital.

LOL. are we living in a universe where racism doesn't exist? half the country is very, very busy demonizing mexican immigrants and finding the best way to build a gigantic wall to keep them out. Incorporating Mexico into the US would *never* happen.

As for the Cartels, you could collapse them overnight by ending the war on drugs. But we won't, because it's way too profitable.
 

Acidote

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You also talk of the Mexican admission in the U.S like if it were something that Mexico would want. I think that's where your Big Idea starts to fall down. But I might be wrong, what do I know, ask some Mexican gaffers.
 
LOL. are we living in a universe where racism doesn't exist? half the country is very, very busy demonizing mexican immigrants and finding the best way to build a gigantic wall to keep them out. Incorporating Mexico into the US would *never* happen.

As for the Cartels, you could collapse them overnight by ending the war on drugs. But we won't, because it's way too profitable.

Nah, that's too cynical. The war on drugs is partially motivated by private interests pursuing profit, but also by people who sincerely believe it's the right thing to do.

As to the OP... it's an interesting idea, to be certain. National pride south of the border would be a problem, though, as would the not-insignificant portion of the American public that's been trained to view Mexicans as "moochers."
 

JCizzle

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The United States meanwhile faces its own challenges as the 21st Century continues on. The economic dominance we have enjoyed since World War II is destined to end as China and India further develop. It comes down to sheer population, we have 320 million people, and China and India each have a billion more people than that. The European Union already has over 500 million people with many potential countries still awaiting membership. The United Nations even projects Nigeria to have over 800 million people by 2100.

I'm not sure additional population to such a large extent is actually a good thing. China's population causes huge problems (healthcare, retirement, environmental, etc.), and the differences between rural/urban populations is crazy. In and of itself, it may be a greater detriment than benefit.
 

Ecotic

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You also talk of the Mexican admission in the U.S like if it were something that Mexico would want. I think that's where your Big Idea starts to fall down. But I might be wrong, what do I know, ask some Mexican gaffers.

I linked to a Mexican survey in the OP showing 60% of surveyed Mexicans supported the idea.
 

Ecotic

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I'm not sure additional population to such a large extent is actually a good thing. China's population causes huge problems (healthcare, retirement, environmental, etc.), and the differences between rural/urban populations is crazy. In and of itself, it may be a greater detriment than benefit.

Well I'm not saying we import an additional 120 million people into the existing space, the country would increase in size and the new United States' population density would be little changed overall.
 

WedgeX

Banned
American flag with the stars in the shape of an eagle? I'd be cool with that.

But Puerto Rico can't even become a state despite being a territory and voting for statehood.
 

Laekon

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NAFTA did away with tariffs hence the FT part. Also don't think Mexico needs help finding factory workers. The reason half those factories are there is because U.S. companies don't want to pay US wages or deal with our safety and environmental laws.

How is the U.S. military going to go after the cartels under U.S. laws?
 

numble

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TL;DR Summary: American corporations and its wealthy elite have trillions of dollars parked overseas that won’t ever be brought back home. The United States could offer Mexico admission into the Union with the stipulation that all American offshore capital will be granted an indefinite tax holiday on any money invested into Mexico. The Mexican states under American laws and with this capital infusion could then rapidly equalize with the rest of the U.S. to make a new, stronger United States that could effectively hold off coming challenges from China, India, the European Union, and even Nigeria later in this century.

They already have a tax holiday on any money invested into Mexico or elsewhere in the world that is not the US.
 

JCizzle

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Well I'm not saying we import an additional 120 million people into the existing space, the country would increase in size and the new United States' population density would be little changed overall.

Right, I get you on that. I just disagree with your assessment that India and China are inherently going to pass the US economically just because of their population size. My argument is that those large populations are more likely to hurt than help them do so. Same for Nigeria if they experience out of control population growth.
 

Anjelus_

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Also keep in mind that Congress would have to vote for it to happen. How many constituents would really want Mexico to be a part of the U.S.?
 
Well I'm not saying we import an additional 120 million people into the existing space, the country would increase in size and the new United States' population density would be little changed overall.


I'm not American but from what I've observed and human nature the population density in big cities will change. Lots of people will move to big cities to better their lives.
 
Right, I get you on that. I just disagree with your assessment that India and China are inherently going to pass the US economically just because of their population size. My argument is that those large populations are more likely to hurt than help them do so. Same for Nigeria if they experience out of control population growth.

The thing is, the point of a fiat currency is that you can generate wealth through trade, and the more people you have, the more transactions you can have, and the more wealth you can generate. So in a brute force sort of sense, more people = more money.
 
Nah, that's too cynical. The war on drugs is partially motivated by private interests pursuing profit, but also by people who sincerely believe it's the right thing to do.

The government itself makes a ton on the war on drugs- your law enforcement agencies get a tremendous amount of funding dedicated to "stopping" it, and that's not counting the funds gained from seizure of drug related property. It's not just private interests that are invested in keeping that gravy train rolling.

as for people who "believe sincerely that it's the right thing to do" those people are in the minority. There is more data than anyone has any time to read that the war on drugs is a failure. There is literally zero reason for marijuana to be illegal- and those lobbying to keep it that way are those that have a monetary interest in keeping it that way- primarily law enforcement unions and pharmaceutical companies.

Obviously it's not JUST marijuana coming out of mexico, but that's the most obvious example.
 
The government itself makes a ton on the war on drugs- your law enforcement agencies get a tremendous amount of funding dedicated to "stopping" it, and that's not counting the funds gained from seizure of drug related property. It's not just private interests that are invested in keeping that gravy train rolling.

as for people who "believe sincerely that it's the right thing to do" those people are in the minority. There is more data than anyone has any time to read that the war on drugs is a failure. There is literally zero reason for marijuana to be illegal- and those lobbying to keep it that way are those that have a monetary interest in keeping it that way- primarily law enforcement unions and pharmaceutical companies.

Obviously it's not JUST marijuana coming out of mexico, but that's the most obvious example.

I'm not going to deny that agencies like the DEA get their funding due to the war on drugs, but that's a bit like arguing that climate institutes must only believe in climate change being real because they get their funding because of it. It doesn't necessarily introduce bias if the belief is already there. Private interests motivate legislators a lot more, which is why I'd argue that they're where the profit motivation comes from, e.g. private prisons.

And while I definitely agree with you about marijuana, that's not the sole issue at hand. Stuff like heroin is damaging enough that a real argument can be made for fighting it. Ditto cocaine, to a lesser extent. Meth too.
 

JCizzle

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The government itself makes a ton on the war on drugs- your law enforcement agencies get a tremendous amount of funding dedicated to "stopping" it, and that's not counting the funds gained from seizure of drug related property. It's not just private interests that are invested in keeping that gravy train rolling.

as for people who "believe sincerely that it's the right thing to do" those people are in the minority. There is more data than anyone has any time to read that the war on drugs is a failure. There is literally zero reason for marijuana to be illegal- and those lobbying to keep it that way are those that have a monetary interest in keeping it that way- primarily law enforcement unions and pharmaceutical companies.

Obviously it's not JUST marijuana coming out of mexico, but that's the most obvious example.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...fe44ce-8532-11e4-abcf-5a3d7b3b20b8_story.html

I mean, they're always just going to move to the next most profitable thing, unfortunately. I'm personally supportive of legalizing weed, but the more extreme stuff is something I can't get behind at this point in time.
 
I'm not going to deny that agencies like the DEA get their funding due to the war on drugs, but that's a bit like arguing that climate institutes must only believe in climate change being real because they get their funding because of it. It doesn't necessarily introduce bias if the belief is already there. Private interests motivate legislators a lot more, which is why I'd argue that they're where the profit motivation comes from, e.g. private prisons.

Perhaps I should clarify. Law enforcement in GENERAL has a vested interest. not just the DEA. Everyone. Legislators have a vested interest in anyone who lobbies them, and law enforcement unions lobby both state and federal legislators HARD.

Private Prisons by the way are a fraction of a fraction of the total prison population. less than 10% of state and federal inmates are housed there. There are astronomically more public prisons, virtually ALL of their employees are unionized, and those unions have a ton of money.

disclaimer: I work in prison administration for the state of PA.

And while I definitely agree with you about marijuana, that's not the sole issue at hand. Stuff like heroin is damaging enough that a real argument can be made for fighting it. Ditto cocaine, to a lesser extent. Meth too.

heroin and cocaine are more damaging, but the appropriate response to addiction is treatment, and not mandatory prison time. On top of that, look up the historical sentencing disparity between crack cocaine and powder cocaine. In some cases it was 35 to 1. Repeat offenders in states with "3 strikes" laws (mine is one of these) can end up in prison for life for possession. Ask yourself why this exists.

As for the "cartels are moving to heroin and meth" in states where medical (not just recreational) marijuana has been legalized, overdoses of opiates dropped by 25%.

http://www.uphs.upenn.edu/news/News_Releases/2014/08/bachhuber/

no matter which way you look at it, legalization of JUST marijuana would devastate cartels.
 

Ecotic

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Also keep in mind that Congress would have to vote for it to happen. How many constituents would really want Mexico to be a part of the U.S.?

American flag with the stars in the shape of an eagle? I'd be cool with that.

But Puerto Rico can't even become a state despite being a territory and voting for statehood.

Seriously, what happened to this country? A nation that believed in Manifest Destiny has gotten too comfy, too complacent. In the case of Puerto Rico they have $80 billion or so in debt that's being held up as the reason to hold off statehood, but it's mostly just the Republican Congress being afraid of 2 potentially new Democratic Senators.
 

Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus
Fuck this idea and everyone who takes it seriously

Because the one thing Mexico needs is even more interventionism From foreugn countries, let alone occupation
 

Bregor

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Integrating any large region into the US would change the balance of political power in the government, and thus would have one party strongly opposed to it due to the influence they would lose.

I suspect that it would be politically impossible for that reason.
 

Kusagari

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Basically any region the US could conceivably add would probably be a lock to vote Democrat so Repubs will never let it happen.
 

hipbabboom

Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
This has rope-a-dope written all over it. The eventual "you stole the land of our fathers and we want it back along with our sovereignty" civil war is almost assured.
 

Hilbert

Deep into his 30th decade
I have always liked the idea. Not sure if it will every happen, but a mega country of which is right now, Canada, The US, and Mexico is a great dream to have.
 

Ecotic

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Fuck this idea and everyone who takes it seriously

Because the one thing Mexico needs is even more interventionism From foreugn countries, let alone occupation

Occupation? No, the idea I propose in the OP is an offer to Mexico, not an invasion and annexation. Mexico would have to accept. The 2013 Mexican University survey I linked to had 60% of Mexicans in favor of admission into the United States. Besides, at 120 million people the Mexican States would have roughly 30% of the voting power in the new U.S. and thus a significant say in their future.
 
Fuck this idea and everyone who takes it seriously

Because the one thing Mexico needs is even more interventionism From foreugn countries, let alone occupation
Ironically, that is how current Mexico came to be. Or do you speak nahuatl and buy your games through barter? Foreign investment creates much needed jobs. Wake up, globalization happened. Do you also reject the massive influx of Japanese auto-makers in the country, or is glorious nippon exempt of raging nationalism?

I honestly see Mexico closer to Colombia than USA, despite geographic impossibility and the huge trade between the north american neighbors. I say bring MexiColombia, or MexiColumbia for our american friends. We're already visa-free carajo. Chile and Peru are also welcome to join but you guys need to settle your beef...heh, right...

No, I don't just want Colombian women. Swear to God.
 

Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus
Occupation? No, the idea I propose in the OP is an offer to Mexico, not an invasion and annexation. Mexico would have to accept. The 2013 Mexican University survey I linked to had 60% of Mexicans in favor of admission into the United States. Besides, at 120 million people the Mexican States would have roughly 30% of the voting power in the new U.S. and thus a significant say in their future.
Occupation? No, the idea I propose in the OP is a offer to Mexico, not an invasion and annexation. Mexico would have to accept. The 2013 Mexican University survey I linked to had 60% of Mexicans in favor of admission into the United States. Besides, at 120 million people the Mexican States would have roughly 30% of the voting power in the new U.S. and thus a significant say in their future.
If you've lived in Mexico for any amount of time you'd realise that most Mexicans actually hold an aversion for our northern neighbours.

I don't wanna call CIDE's study out, but this is the first time I've ever heard of the institution. Not that I would argue the average Mexican is represented by university students.
 
If you've lived in Mexico for any amount of time you'd realise that most Mexicans actually hold an aversion for our northern neighbours.

I don't wanna call CIDE's study out, but this is the first time I've ever heard of the institution. Not that I would argue the average Mexican is represented by university students.
Not trying to be a jerk, but if this is the first time you've heard of CIDE or CONACYT then it is your credibility and not CIDE's on the line.
 

Ecotic

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If you've lived in Mexico for any amount of time you'd realise that most Mexicans actually hold an aversion for our northern neighbours.

I don't wanna call CIDE's study out, but this is the first time I've ever heard of the institution. Not that I would argue the average Mexican is represented by university students.

They seem pretty good.

The Centro de Investigación y Docencia Económicas ("Center for Research and Teaching in Economics"; CIDE) is a Mexican center of research and higher education, specialized in the fields of social sciences, with an international-grade level of excellence. It is financed with public resources. It is considered one of Mexico's top think tanks.

And no, I wasn't saying they surveyed Mexican University students, I was saying they are an institution of higher education.
 

Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus
Not trying to be a jerk, but if this is the first time you've heard of CIDE or CONACYT then it is your credibility and not CIDE's on the line.
Fair enough. Maybe the country has radically changed their position since I moved. Maybe it's not my decision to make. It still irks me that the US is supposed to go in and solve its problems.
 
Yes, have you?
Yes, I live there. Obviously I won't change your perception of it, you're entitled to it and I wouldn't blame you, but I believe our future is brighter than our present is. The IMF agrees, fwiw.

OP, at least some of the points you touch would be covered if the TPP materializes.
 
"Perpetual drug war" isn't in the least Mexico's biggest issue. Their biggest issue by far is the rampant corruption and grossly incompetent government at all levels that bleeds the economy dry and funnels them into the top 0.01% in the country.

And socially speaking nobody in Mexico would want to become a part of the United States.
 

SalvaPot

Member
Oh boy, ok, were to begin.

First of all, yes, México never fully recovered from the Mexican-American war, but even further we never recovered from the Mexican revolution. Mexico is a country that has always been in constant war, not because we did not had the means to stop it, but because we ourselves are a extremely corrupt nation helmed by our own devils. Even today, politics and criminals go hand in hand, this may be a generalization, but its true more often than not and even decent politicians are tied by the criminals, sometimes willingly, other not.

But here is the interesting part: A lot of those issues have been reinforced, and sometime provoked, by the USA themselves. You go through our full history and you will always see the USA participation somewhere there. Be it lending intell, signing advantageous deals to support either side of a conflict, and recently even selling weapon multiple times to the same drug lords they are supposed to be against. I am not saying is the USA fault, its not, its the mexicans themselves that have brought this continuous mayhem into our lifes, but its clear to me that, if the USA wanted to annex the rest of México to itself, they would have done so long time ago.

And why would they? Why would they add us when they already have a lot of what they need from us? We already gave them ridiculous advantages in the deals we have made, an example is the oil, that is our principal export and revenue maker, and we sell it crude to the US, just to buy it back once its refined, more expensive.

Personally, it sounds like a interesting idea. It could work in theory, but the problem is the social and cultural barrier, and that one is huge. The survey you showed its at university level, and university level is NOT the popular opinion. The popular opinion still has a grudge against the USA, and, more importantly, a great amount of pride. I am sure that if something like what you proposed happened an armed conflict would rise for sure. Chances are we will lose, of course, but you can expect thousands of death, even millions maybe. If there is something Mexicans love is the status quo, "mas vale malo por conocido que bueno por conocer".

I dunno man, this is all just a few of the issues from our side I can see. From the American side? I honesty don´t think the american will see us as equal level citizens, they will continue to see mexicans as second class and it will show. The conservative side will try to make the mexican states far less important than the original counterpart. Immigration is going to be huge, but that would give its own problems. Millions of dollars are going to have to be moved to make that movement possible, and the proposal of the escaped capital to fund it seems a little reaching and it would need to be incredibly tempting, china levels of cheap production, and how would that be possible Mexico its supposed to be equal to the USA? The mexican citizens would want all the advantages of an american job, like the higher paying salary, and if we don´t get that immediately things could go sour.

All this is just scratching the surface of what could go wrong. Realistically, if they USA want it to happen, it WILL happen, since they already have our high politicians as pets, we all know that. Fortunately, Mexico is a country of extreme patience, so unless they really REALLY do something big to aggravate the country then it can happen. But be sure blood would be shed, be it with the drug lords, the rebels, or a mayor revolution, it won´t be a clean transition.
 
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