most of the users on neogaf.com (what you call erroneously the gaming consumer base) feels very differently I'm sure. but the world is much bigger than neogaf.com, shocking but true. there are 7.7 billion people in the world, most of them have no idea that this website even exists. this website did not spring into existence spontaneously when the first video game was created, and videogames will outlive neogaf.com. neogaf.com is at best a small (tiny) footnote in the history of videogames.
Yeah but most of us tend to do things in the gaming culture before the casual gamers do. If we aren't going to throw away out consoles and PCs, why would the greater gaming casuals?
You literally responded to me but you never actually responded to what was written.
What does "google can handle the promotion of stadia" have to do with your comments and my response?
What does "playforms are great for platform owners" have to do with your comments and my response?
What does "good guys" have to with your comments and my response?
What does "google could buy" have to with your comments and my response?
Your comment was "hardware is going to disappear", clearly it isn't unless one believes in magic... I'm not sure what Google's market cap or promoting Stadia has to do with your comment/my response, they basically bail in part on Youtube Premium a few weeks ago and just bailed on Google +. A companies market cap has no real bearing on your comments or my response.
You are free to have an opinion on whether Stadia will be successful, I don't know... they haven't even announced anything yet... not really i.e. no business model. However, to claim hardware is going to disappear is just not true on any level.
"hardware is going to disappear" is a long term prediction
Yeah but most of us tend to do things in the gaming culture before the casual gamers do. If we aren't going to throw away out consoles and PCs, why would the greater gaming casuals?
Please explain how hardware is going to disappear in the long term to us stupid people. (I suggest you read my original comment to you slowly) Are computer processes going to processed by real clouds i.e. a visible mass of condensed water vapor floating in the atmosphere, typically high above the ground? I would love to hear your solution that requires no hardware for games to be processed.
Whether or not you have an opinion on Stadia is not what my comment was about, not sure why you are now talking about "succeeding and failing" (paraphrased), your comment was that hardware was going to disappear. (you can choose to move your hardware, but to play video games you still need to have hardware to play them)
it will disappear as far as the consumers are concerned. it will still exist, but it's not something that most people will concern themselves with. the model of going to a store to spend hundreds of dollars on a games machine will be like The Flintstones. excessively antiquated and well past its prime.
No, it doesn't disappear and no the cost does not disappear... most likely you will actually be paying more and paying for more hardware. Game streaming has been available to the masses for coming up on a decade, virtual desktops longer than that... yet nobody cares (meaning non-business). You are not eliminating hardware, in most situations you're actually increasing the amount of hardware, and the cost will be higher - not lower.
You're still spending money on the hardware (subscription monthly fee), you are still shopping at a store for the hardware its a 10tf machine. LOL If I buy a PS4, but I keep it at a friends house, what is the difference?
Tell you what... we'll get you on my plan.... you sign up with me for $15 a month, we'll get you a PS4 and you can play it from your house (located at my datacenter)... keep it at my house, at the end of four years... if you don't want to renew... cool, I'll keep the hardware.
No, it doesn't disappear and no the cost does not disappear... most likely you will actually be paying more and paying for more hardware. Game streaming has been available to the masses for coming up on a decade, virtual desktops longer than that... yet nobody cares. You are not eliminating hardware, in most situations you're actually increasing the amount of hardware, and the cost will be higher - not lower.
You're still spending money on the hardware (subscription monthly fee), you are still shopping at a store for the hardware its a 10tf machine. LOL If I buy a PS4, but I keep it at a friends house, what is the difference?
Tell you what... we'll get you on my plan.... you sign up with me for $15 a month, we'll get you a PS4 and you can play it from your house (located at my datacenter)... keep it at my house, at the end of four years... if you don't want to renew... cool, I'll keep the hardware.
it will disappear as far as the consumers are concerned. it will still exist, but it's not something that most people will concern themselves with. the model of going to a store to spend hundreds of dollars on a games machine will be like The Flintstones. excessively antiquated and well past its prime.
But why? What consumers are asking for this?
Actually it's the opposite. It's much more economical to put hardware in the cloud because it is used on demand and compute required any given game is scaleable. How many consoles are actually being used at any given time? Probably 25% of the install base. Do you need a 15TF machine to run an indie game? No...but if that's what you have locally that's what is used.
Furthermore hardware in a data center can be "ugly" and doesn't need to have to adhere to same form factor and thermal/power limits of a consumer device.
Generally, if you go to the cloud you are going to spend more.... depending on how companies are setup though there can be some savings and easier to manage - consumers do not gain this benefit.
You can rent a 8tf machine from Shadow Tech for $29.95 a month for a 12 month commitment or $34.95 by the month. (that's probably a deal at some point they're going to have to raise prices, originally they were saying $50 a month - just trying to get customers at this point)
Nvidia was talking about $25 per 20 hours of usage, than they went silent in 2017. Back in beta Geforce went. The chances of someone actually saving a ton of money if they game frequently in this type of environment is slim and probably none.
In my experience.... VDs for instance actually cost more as far as hardware to service.... what you save is potential headcount, maybe, if you are lucky.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/02/why_bother_with_virtual_desktops/
Of course. Developers love money honey.Curious about the price and games. I imagine major third party publishers would love to release their games on it.
Curious about the price and games. I imagine major third party publishers would love to release their games on it.
There’s a fan for everything. You’d be surprised.There is Google stadia fan's ? LOL
Its simple.
Google Stadia : 15-20$/month
AAA Games on stadia : 69.99$ each.
It's just calm before the storm - Voost Kain's ban ends on June 1st. Be afraid. Be very afraid.Why is this announcement taking so long?
Phil Harrison fucks things up on his own schedule.Why is this announcement taking so long?
I wonder if Stadia will ever try have an AD supported model. Where they pause the game you are playing and put like youtube ads, but therefore you can play for free. Would be cool I think.
Putting ads in game and cool/ok in the same sentence, kills my gamer soul.
The funk are you two smoking?
You think these ads are going to be ads for games, trailers for movies or even Doritos ads? lmao hell naw, it will be political bullshit and propaganda.
Take NFL for example. Your team has just won, the next match loads and :
"well done team, now help team democrat defeat the evil trump by voting for democrats, the only team that counts!"
Haha oh boyIts simple.
Google Stadia : 15-20$/month
AAA Games on stadia : 69.99$ each.
VoostKain - making Stadia look even more lame than it already is through his cringeworthy promotions.