EatinOlives
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Because it's a pedestrian business transaction rather than the smoking gun of deeply-rooted corruption some people seem to really want to see.
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Guccifer releases DNC dossier on Clinton
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Because it's a pedestrian business transaction rather than the smoking gun of deeply-rooted corruption some people seem to really want to see.
Name recognition and also because she has to pay her secret service detail. This is why she needs the jet. Because she has like 30 Secret Service Agents within 5 feet of her at all times and planes are safer for moving SS-protected persons across the country.
It is amazing. A lot of people don't research or care about knowledge/truth, they simply develop opinions for the sake of having them. Everything is subjective right? lol
As far as a big chunk of politicians, they all seem like humble public servants don't they? It really always comes down to money and power.
One could hope. I could use more of former presidential candidate abs.
It's the DNC servers. So no, this has no indication in either direction.
Suikoguy
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From what?
boiled goose
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Pedestrian business transaction? Bs. It's like you dont understand conflict of interest at all!.
The revolving door is not a problem to you when Republicans do it either?
Cheney getting paid by haliBurton? Totally fine? Politicians getting paid by fossil fuel industry denying climate Change?
Totally fine!
GoldenEye 007
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That's completely fair.
those documents have already come out. There are documents from last year that speak of Hillary as the presumptive nominee.
That and the Bernie bro stuff that's coming out even journalists are saying they were approached by hillary camp to run Bernie bro stories.
Doesn't look good at minimum for the DNC.
I'm baffled at people who simultaneously manage to push "She's so rich money is no object, out of touch" and "Wow, 200k$ buys political favours from a president!" narratives.
I mean, it's one or the other.
It's a prestige thing. "Look how much money can we afford to throw to get your ass in the seat"
I mean, it's one or the other.
It's a prestige thing. "Look how much money can we afford to throw to get your ass in the seat"
Cheney was CEO of Halliburton. Was Clinton CEO of any of these companies?
boiled goose
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Hope this is a joke..
And_Gignac
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Is not her fault theres a system in fuction that allows her to receive such amounts of money for talking.
Alligatorjandro
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What does this mean
Bearjewpiter
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I think the fact that she's running for president coupled with the fact that she's being paid in a big way by companies to represent their interests which may not be best for the country long term.
But maybe I'm jumping to conclusions, I certainly hope she's interested in helping as many people as she can but when money is involved, and this much money too, it is pretty easy to see why things like this keep being brought up.
Obviously Trump and his supposed millions are not better on that front, his motives are based on money just like Hillary's are and just as everyone's is, we all want money but we're all not running for leader of a county. It's just concerning to see who all the millions come from.
Freezie KO
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The speaking fees aren't unusual or abnormal, but that's a problem with our system.
If you don't bribe a politician up front for a favor, you can offer them speaking opportunities if they do you favors while in office.
Hillary or anybody else, America should find this problematic.
If you don't bribe a politician up front for a favor, you can offer them speaking opportunities if they do you favors while in office.
Hillary or anybody else, America should find this problematic.
boiled goose
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Ummm. Which is worse? Hahaha. Don't get your point.
Getting paid millions when you weren't an employee? Guess it was for other services then.
Every major unattached politician does. Blair from here made millions and millions in the US.
She was the presumptive nominee last year?
I don't really get why people think it's somehow proof of collusion that people at the DNC believed, just like everybody with any knowledge believed and just as things actually turned out, that Hillary was guaranteed to win the nomination.
Imperfected
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Fundamentally useless for Trump.
The way he's postured himself, he can't exactly attack someone for making money or putting obscene value in their name brand. He would look like a simpleton if he tried to attack Clinton for her speaking fees.
... he'll probably do it.
The way he's postured himself, he can't exactly attack someone for making money or putting obscene value in their name brand. He would look like a simpleton if he tried to attack Clinton for her speaking fees.
... he'll probably do it.
boiled goose
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Fucking exactly. The fact that people defend this shit because it makes their preferred politician look bad is unbelievable..
whyamihere
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I don't think the speaking circuit is really an issue at the heart of corruption within American politics.
googleplex
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Your stretching would make Reed Richards jealous.
"i'm white"
EatinOlives
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I do understand conflict of interest, enough to understand that this doesn't fit the definition.
But we already know your opinion of Hillary. You'll see whatever you want to see.
metalslimer
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Ex politicians get paid large amounts to give speeches even when they have no power. Essentially you just seem mad that Clinton was making a lot of money for something you don't think was worth that amount.
I mean would you be ok if she got paid 500 dollars per speech?
People aren't defending it here. They are saying it isn't the huge scandal anti-Hillary people want it to be.
I'm just joking about how the GOP can acknowledge Trump is saying horrible things but back him because he'll still cut taxes for the rich.
While this is true, there's something to be said for the gap between ordinary people and absurdly rich people when it comes to actually caring about fixing problems. If one side cannot relate, it's hard to form trust. If one side is making $44 million for speaking, they cannot relate to the struggles of those low on the social ladder. Privilege, etc. The bigger the gap, the bigger the disconnect. Whether this is 100% scientific fact is debatable, but as far as perception? It's truth.
rokkerkory
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I don't really like Clinton all that much in many areas but honestly good for her to get paid this much for speaking.
I wished I could as well.
I wished I could as well.
whyamihere
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It's the untold story of this election imo
boiled goose
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Umm. How is this not conflict of interest??
Stop projecting your bias onto me. I have no issues specifically with Hillary. I have voted for her in the past and will likely vote for her in November.
I call out bs when i see it. I dont give Democrats a pass because Republicans are worse
Fine Ham Abounds
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Averaging a speech a week is pretty impressive, yeah
your watchdog persona is really tiring
Freezie KO
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From lobby groups and corporations they helped out while they were in power.
Take Hillary out of the equation. She wasn't the first person to get rich after leaving office. Regardless of Hillary, this is a problem we should talk about.
googleplex
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It's pretty much the same mentality that got Planed Parenthood labeled as" part of the establishment!"
Big real estate, big cultural groups, big tires...
boiled goose
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Already Torn
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I really don't understand it either. Is the idea that the speech prices are inflated to cover hidden donations/bribes?
metalslimer
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That people get paid lots money when they are not politicians? I mean I don't know how exactly you want to fix this problem besides barring any politicians from ever making large amounts of money.
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