Yeah, a lot of Hillary's speeches are meh, but every once in awhile she has a great one like this.
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Hillary: Trump embraces the alt-right, a fringe racist element. Enough is enough
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Yeah, a lot of Hillary's speeches are meh, but every once in awhile she has a great one like this.
Fenderputty
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Dear god that was good.
Mr. Giggles
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Holy shit.
That was quiet the bitch slap from Hillary.
Your move Donald
That was quiet the bitch slap from Hillary.
Your move Donald
She's not, though. The target of this speech isn't back-patting progressives who love safe spaces and trigger warnings, it's moderate Republicans who are already a little bit uncomfortable with Trump and need to be told that they can still back away from the ledge. This is why you see a few people here annoyed that she isn't telling it like it is enough because she's giving them a line of retreat.
Lol, I had the exact same reaction.
I'm so used to reading the Donald's ""speeches"" I actually thought that was a press release until one point were she repeated herself (well, in the transcript at least)
Yeah, that's what im getting the vibe of. The values of the gop are set in a very divisive way. And they aren't just gop values. A lot of people harbor some of the same feelings who'd call themselves liberal too I'd imagine. I got an ear full from bernie supporters that made me tilt my head.
I just don't belive there are many people on the fence. Or in a position to be won over. The GOP has been at this since before trump, with equally deplorable rhetoric. People have shown their cards this election, and in the run up to trump winning the nomination. They are fine with the alt right, and the other trimmings of their "movement." It's a deeply historic world view. A lot of people don't see what all the fuss is about. Stop making it about race / I see no color folks.
I'm just hoping that nothing bad happens to hilary. She's not who I wanted, but she'll do until something better comes along.
http://www.oscars.org/events/heat
These people have had decades of not changing their minds over the gops platforms, or its support. If Trump was winning, there wouldn't be any conversation about the issues that are making them uncomfortable. Truth is this has been their message and strategy. It was working for them until trump threw away the dog whistle. But I can't pretend that he's a 180 from the core mesages/support from white supremacists etc that the moderates value.
When I say it's more back patting, it's more common sense. Which has been the volley of debate between republicans and Democrats for decades. Pre trump, none of the words mattered. Their party is also anti science, and are constantly at war with women and the poor, even when it's themselves.
Good speech, you bet. But I doubt people are going to reconsider their world views 74 days before an election. As this shit has been supported by the party and all the candidates.
These people, these moderates, are well aware of the company the GOP keeps. Yet, still voting R due to reasons.
Butthurt alt-right
googleplex
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You do understand that her Job will be not to crush the 48% of America that will be voting for GOP candidates right? Her job right now and in the future is to try and get the few sane Republicans left to steer their party from this path of lunacy .
Father_Brain
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Is the GOP actually in the middle of any such collapse on the state/local level, though?
It's one thing if she's trying to get GOP voters to stay home, quite another if she's giving them an out to split the ticket and vote for years more of gridlock.
BrutishMrFish
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If Trump didn't win the nomination, it would have been Cruz of Rubio, both people who have pretty fascist and racist ideas of their own. As pigeon said, a lot of Americans are racist, and in this election, the three most popular Republican candidates were the three who were the most racist.
The real danger comes from people acting like Trump is an anomaly that came out of nowhere. Just because he's one of the most extreme examples doesn't mean that he's not a part of a larger trend.
The GOP throwing off the alt-right and other racist idealogs to become a functioning national party would be good for everyone.
Aaronology
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Queen Hillary said:
Yes ma'am, I was not expecting Clinton to go for Trump's wig that hard.
Pfft. They're Classic Racist.
Someone with Photoshop skills needs to mock up the entire Racist soda line.
LiquidSolid
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The rise of nationalism, racism and the far right isn't exactly a trend isolated to just the US.
Great speech, really broke down the alt right and tied Trump to those sacks of shit. Fuuuuck the alt right and Trump.
The Truth shall set you Free, Low Education Medium income White voters...
In spite of Trump's apparent re positioning and appeals to minorities, he has a whole history of biggotry, xenophobia and downright racism that ought to be exposed continuously in plain sight.
Next: Business failures, Scammer, Rapist and Financial pawn of foreign interests.
This being said, I also hope that someone in Hilary's campaign management realizes that they should have a dual approach to this.
Attack Trump with everything they got (and there's a lot to dig in), but also find a positive message to campaign on.
In spite of Trump's apparent re positioning and appeals to minorities, he has a whole history of biggotry, xenophobia and downright racism that ought to be exposed continuously in plain sight.
Next: Business failures, Scammer, Rapist and Financial pawn of foreign interests.
This being said, I also hope that someone in Hilary's campaign management realizes that they should have a dual approach to this.
Attack Trump with everything they got (and there's a lot to dig in), but also find a positive message to campaign on.
I always envision the scene from V For Vendetta where the High Chancellor is sitting in his seat at home and breaks his glass of milk while the comedy sketch aires on TV.
ryutaro's mama
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Orange Crushed.
They flood the video with dislikes, then use the dislikes they just flooded it with to "prove" they're actually the popular choice.
Father_Brain
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This sounds awfully like Obama's post-partisan spiel in 2008 to me.
The GOP cannot and will not be saved from within. There are simply not enough "reasonable," "sane" Republicans out there who are capable of working in good faith with Democrats.
The_Donald Subreddit loves to brigade anything and everything.
Garrett Hawke
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she went IN
They've been doing that since the convention. Clinton's campaign slogan is "stronger together' and she hammers it home quite well as does Tim Kaine.
Exactly. They'd have jumped ship before trump. Trump is just saying shit in a bold font that was said in code long before him.
This image that trump is going too far is nonsense. Trump isn't being a calculated bigot enough to fool people into voting. And that's the only reason the party cares. It sure as hell isn't the core of the message. Which is why the gop finds it so difficult to disavow is words, and why Cruz got fucking boo'd for suggesting as much.
SlimySnake
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goddamn. that was brutal. she is going to destroy him in the debates.
alt-right ain't drinking anything diet
Morrigan Stark
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Man, those dislike bars...
As always, DO NO READ THE COMMENTS
SporeCrawler
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gotta say that clinton really does know how to deliver a speech.
BobTheFork
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Who would be Crystal Racist?
Exactly. Trump has been trying this past week to make it seem like he's not the racist that he's seen as, in an effort to make it seem safe for middle class suburban Republicans to vote for him guiltfree.
This speech was tailor made to yank the rug out from beneath Trump.
RedSparrows
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Firefox addon: youtube comments disabled. My safespace ;D
Man Called Aerodynamics
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It's a fantastic speech. From a political perspective though, I'm not sure who it's pitched to. It's not like Trump's rep could possibly be any lower among minorities, and, well, non-racists.
First debate can't come soon enough. Faster she gets the chance to slay him face-to-face, the better.
David Duke would be my guess.
ArchedThunder
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Do you think they'll have an ambulance on standby for Trump at the debates because of how destroyed he's gonna get?
Royal_Phalanx
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The Sky News Facebook post on this is full of British right wingers insulting her. Calling her a 'stupid cow', etc. So many people in the personality cult of Farage. I saw a guy legitimately claiming that Farage freed the British people from their 'chains of slavery' by leaving the EU.
The side they've been on since before trump.
Many of these issues are what the gops strategy had been.
But let's not take my word for it...
Where are all the trump supporters posts, talking about how much ether they just ate?
..there's got to be a ton. Surely none of them were aware of what the gop has stood for all this time.
She made the correct play though. It might FEEL good to totally crush the Republican party with fiery words, but it isnt smart. Political views and parties are tied up with a person's identity. If you say that identity was always wrong and racist and evil then the suburban college graduate white woman (and man) if a lot more likely to say fuck you and entrench themselves in that Republican identity even though they might feel like the shit Trump is saying is embarrassing and horrifying. Same with Republican politicians
You need to give people a way out if you want them to change. You need to lead them to a narrative that is appealing to them. A number of Republicans and democrats saying that the Republican party was co-opted by a bunch of alt-right racists and this isn't the party you remember is a much more powerful narrative that can either get the party to change or get those college educated suburban voters to vote democrat.
And I am sure there are lot of Republicans that don't think they are racist and don't think that their party stands for discriminatory practices (even though they might be and the party does). People have a tremendous power to delude themselves into constructing a positive narrative for themselves. Only a small percentage of the population actually identifies as racist and is proud of that even though the percentage of actual racists in our country is a lot higher.
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She had this teed up and ready to hit as soon as Trump did his pivot to the suburb Republicans. Nice move Hilldog.
BoosterDuck
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That was a commentary on posters calling out Hillary for corruption, then not being able to back it up with anything, and leaving the thread.
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BoosterDuck
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oh, well the wit was so dry in that post I couldn't tell
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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with pure cane sugar
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