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House oversight panel: No sign Flynn complied with the law
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/25/politics/michael-flynn-house-oversight-committee/index.html

(CNN)President Donald Trump's former national security adviser did not properly disclose payments from Russia and does not appear to have complied with the law, House Oversight Chairman Jason Chaffetz and ranking Democrat Elijah Cummings said Tuesday after reviewing Michael Flynn's application for a security clearance.

Chaffetz and Cummings announced their findings to reporters on the Hill following a classified gathering of the committee in which they reviewed documents that Cummings described as "extremely troubling."

"I see no data to support the notion that Gen. Flynn complied with the law," Chaffetz said, referring to whether Flynn received permission from the Pentagon or the State Department or that he disclosed the more than $45,000 he was paid for a speech he gave to RT-TV in Russia.

The request comes after the White House declined to provide documents related to Flynn that the panel investigating him had requested, according to a letter obtained by CNN.

White House refuses to turn over documents relating to Flynn

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/04/...-flynn-white-house-documents-russia.html?_r=0

 

[Dalek]

Lock Him Up!

 

[Frozenprince]

And he's the fall guy and we never get this close again.

 

[Surfinn]

Why did the WH initially deny the request for Flynn's documents..?

 

[ReAxion]

well that's a damning way to put it. "0% not guilty"

 

[benicillin]

And he's the fall guy and we never get this close again.

Being a fall guy would mean someone like Flynn has to stay loyal and take all the blame himself. Not seeing that.

 

[ahoyhoy]

And he's the fall guy and we never get this close again.

Yep. Everyone is already ready to forgive Trump despite him royally fucking up day fucking one.

At least Iran Contra was late in Reagans administration.

 

[BoogieWoogie]

Being a fall guy would mean someone like Flynn has to stay loyal and take all the blame himself. Not seeing that.

This. Plus it would be treason. No way he doesn't cut a deal when facing a possible death sentence.

 

[PantherLotus]

Being a fall guy would mean someone like Flynn has to stay loyal and take all the blame himself. Not seeing that.

Correct.

 

[plagiarize]

Why did the WH initially deny the request for Flynn's documents..?

Because they're stupid. Or complicit.

One or the other.

They keep acting guilty as they either rush to bury evidence, or they fall over themselves to try and put as much distance between themselves and Russia as possible.

 

[studyguy]

https://twitter.com/mitchellreports/status/856903318597234688

Andrea Mitchell (@mitchellreports)
Fmr Deputy CIA Dir David Cohen says the question here is if this is for WH to produce or Flynn in a personal capacity @MSNBC

 

[GTI Guy]

This. Plus it would be treason. No way he doesn't cut a deal when facing a possible death sentence.

Pardon?

 

[numble]

This. Plus it would be treason. No way he doesn't cut a deal when facing a possible death sentence.

It would not be treason.

 

[Random Painted HIghway]

This. Plus it would be treason. No way he doesn't cut a deal when facing a possible death sentence.

I can never tell if these posts are serious.

 

[RPGCrazied]

Is this the real reason Chaffetz wants out? He knows he is on the verge of getting fired or kicked out.

But good, arrest Flynn.

 

[Lord Frieza]

Flynn won't be alone as the fall guy if that's what we're seeing. There's also Page and Manafort that's in very similar situations.

 

[Surfinn]

Flynn won't be alone as the fall guy if that's what we're seeing. There's also Page and Manafort that's in very similar situations.

Yeah, it's gunna be interesting to see how shit plays out for them

 

[studyguy]

https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/856904721092706306

@BraddJaffy
Q from @Kasie: Do you think Michael Flynn broke the law?
Chaffetz: “Um…it doesn’t appear as if he complied with the law.”

 

[Four_Chamber]

Lock him up

Would be incredible if he ends up behind bars

 

[Got]

oh no

 

[RPGCrazied]

Lock him up

Would be incredible if he ends up behind bars

Even if he gets arrested, it'll be like Martha Stewart, he isn't going to go to some federal prison, it'll be some sort of resort with some cozy room under house arrest.

 

[gdt]

https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/856904721092706306

What a rat faced fuck

 

[BlastProcessing]

And he's the fall guy and we never get this close again.

The White House is actively withholding evidence about Flynn. You don't risk your necks covering up for the fall guy.

 

[Surfinn]

Lol this is the funniest phrasing ever

"There is no evidence to suggest Mr. Flynn's innocence"

What

The White House is actively withholding evidence about Flynn. You don't risk your necks covering up for the fall guy.

Exactly what I was thinking. If it's so obvious that he's guilty and there's no way around it, why withhold basic info?

 

[Netherscourge]

When even Chaffetz is coming down on you, you KNOW you done fucked up.

 

[radios shipping overview]

Lol this is the funniest phrasing ever

"There is no evidence to suggest Mr. Flynn's innocence"

What

So weird. Has to be intentional. "I'm not gonna say he did anything illegal, but he didn't NOT do anything illegal."

 

[Surfinn]

So weird. Has to be intentional. "I'm not gonna say he did anything illegal, but he didn't NOT do anything illegal."

It's funny.. as if he's being investigated for being innocent

 

[Wilsongt]

And he's the fall guy and we never get this close again.

That's how I am seeing it. I doubt the IC will do anything to make him sing like a canary in terms of naming people. Wouldn't want a repeat of the McCarthy red scare now would we?

 

[Lord Frieza]

Lol this is the funniest phrasing ever

"There is no evidence to suggest Mr. Flynn's innocence"

What

Just jumping over hoops to not actually say, 'Yeah, he guilty as fuck, guys.'

 

[TwoDurans]

I wonder if he's going to roll over on higher officials to stay out of jail.

 

[Netherscourge]

So weird. Has to be intentional. "I'm not gonna say he did anything illegal, but he didn't NOT do anything illegal."

He's trying sooooooo hard to maintain the party line, even on his way out.

Getting him to admit ANYTHING even remotely negative against anyone in the GoP is a fucking epiphany.

 

[Lord Frieza]

That's how I am seeing it. I doubt the IC will do anything to make him sing like a canary in terms of naming people. Wouldn't want a repeat of the McCarthy red scare now would we?

Well, Flynn at one point said he was open to making a deal with the FBI at one point. There's also Page and Manafort, too, who are basically in the exact same situation more or less. I think if Flynn is going to be the fall guy, those two, at least, are falling with him.

 

[BronsonLee]

Such spin

 

[Elandyll]

Why is this expressed in reverse?

So there -is- evidence he didn't comply with the law, in which case... Prosecution?

 

[Dr.Acula]

 

[Surfinn]

Such spin

Just confirming that there's a very strong chance that he's completely not innocent. Like 99.99% completely not innocent.

No spin here

 

[Lord Frieza]

That's perfect

 

[Saganator]

Would be sweet if the reason Jason Chaffetz isn't running for reelection is because he knows he's about to bring down the hammer on his GOP brethren.

 

[It's Reyn Time!]

well that's a damning way to put it. "0% not guilty"

Isn't it just. I'm not sure you could find a more roundabout way of saying 'he broke the law'.

 

[Surfinn]

Lol

 

[CrunchyFrog]

The request comes after the White House declined to provide documents related to Flynn that the panel investigating him had requested, according to a letter obtained by CNN.

Of course they did. Drain the swamp my ass

So, uh, indictment fucking when exactly?

 

[Surfinn]

Of course they did. Drain the swamp my ass

Yeah I'm failing to see how the WH admin isn't also 99.99% completely not innocent

 

[jviggy43]

So nothing is going to happen basically

 

[PhoenixDawn]

Why is this expressed in reverse?

So there -is- evidence he didn't comply with the law, in which case... Prosecution?

Probably so conservative outlets can quote him as saying there is "no evidence", even though he was actually saying the opposite. Hell, I'm sure Trump probably would see that quote and believe it meant that Flynn had successfully dodged everything and that the WH coverup was working. That, or Chaffetz is so programmed by the party over country operating procedure of the GOP that this is the only way that he can bring himself to admit the truth.

 

[Surfinn]

So nothing is going to happen basically

What

 

[bachikarn]

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/04/...-flynn-white-house-documents-russia.html?_r=0

 

[Tovarisc]

So nothing is going to happen basically

What

I'm also very surprised if Finn gets anything more than stern talking to about how he did naughty thing. Maybe fine and some home arrest for little while, but nothing that would register as hard time.

I just don't trust anything to come out of this.

 

[BlastProcessing]

Why is this expressed in reverse?

So there -is- evidence he didn't comply with the law, in which case... Prosecution?

Chaffetz is walking a fine line. He needs to investigate Flynn, the evidence is too blatant for him to ignore. For the investigation to proceed, he needs documents from the White House. The White House announced to day that they are witholding those documents. SO Chaffetz is forced to respond. His statement is calculated to put pressure on the White House without pushing things to far. "I have no evidence right now that shows that what Flynn did was legal because the White House won't cooperate" Is what he is implying.

It's not the worst political move, honestly. It's making headlines and will put pressure on the White House, but it gives enough margin for the investigation to continue.

I'm also very surprised if Finn gets anything more than stern talking to about how he did naughty thing. Maybe fine and some home arrest for little while, but nothing that would register as hard time.

I just don't trust anything to come out of this.

Have you called your representatives and expressed this to them? Such calls do matter.

 

[jviggy43]

What

I meant to have another not before that.

"So not nothing is going to come from this."

Lol

 

[Tovarisc]

Have you called your representatives and expressed this to them? Such calls do matter.

I'm not American, I'm mere spectator.

Seeing how "Party and friends before country" behavior seems to be strong in US politics just has made me doubt anything big comes from things like this.