RPGCrazied
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This coming from someone like Chafftetz is pretty damning, now lets see what actually happens.
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House Oversight panel: "No evidence" that Flynn complied with law in Russia dealings
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This coming from someone like Chafftetz is pretty damning, now lets see what actually happens.
The house oversight panel confirmed that he broke the law though. If it weren't a big deal, why did the WH initially try to withhold evidence?
Haha nice
Skinny Pete
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LOCK HIM UP LOCK HIM UP!!
HammerOfThor
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Was Flynn the one who wanted immunity?
RPGCrazied
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Yes. He said he had an interesting story to tell.
Flynns Turkish lobbying linked to Russia
The former national security advisers client had business dealings in Russia and worked with an executive in Russian oil companies on Turkish lobbying projects.
The Turkish man who gave Mike Flynn a $600,000 lobbying deal just before President Donald Trump picked him to be national security adviser has business ties to Russia, including a 2009 aviation financing deal negotiated with Vladimir Putin, according to court records.
The man, Ekim Alptekin, has in recent years helped to coordinate Turkish lobbying in Washington with Dmitri David Zaikin, a Soviet-born former executive in Russian energy and mining companies who also has had dealings with Putins government, according to three people with direct knowledge of the activities.
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Flynns lawyer, Robert Kelner, declined to comment. In a filing with the Justice Department, Flynn said he relied on assurances from Alptekin that he was not directly or indirectly funded by a foreign government. But shifting explanations and a web of business ties raise questions about the arrangement.
Flynn has offered evolving accounts of his lobbying work for Alptekin. In September, Flynn reported his client as a Dutch shell company owned by Alptekin. After being forced to leave the White House reportedly because he lied to Vice President Mike Pence about his conversations during the transition with the Russian ambassador Flynn filed new paperwork in March acknowledging that his lobbying work principally benefitted the Turkish government.
The revelation of Russian business ties to the man who hired Flynn which has not been previously reported threatens to complicate the White Houses struggle to escape the shadow of the FBI investigation into whether members of the Trump campaign coordinated with Russian agents.
and a lot more at http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/25/michael-flynn-turkey-russia-237550
The former national security advisers client had business dealings in Russia and worked with an executive in Russian oil companies on Turkish lobbying projects.
The Turkish man who gave Mike Flynn a $600,000 lobbying deal just before President Donald Trump picked him to be national security adviser has business ties to Russia, including a 2009 aviation financing deal negotiated with Vladimir Putin, according to court records.
The man, Ekim Alptekin, has in recent years helped to coordinate Turkish lobbying in Washington with Dmitri David Zaikin, a Soviet-born former executive in Russian energy and mining companies who also has had dealings with Putins government, according to three people with direct knowledge of the activities.
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Flynns lawyer, Robert Kelner, declined to comment. In a filing with the Justice Department, Flynn said he relied on assurances from Alptekin that he was not directly or indirectly funded by a foreign government. But shifting explanations and a web of business ties raise questions about the arrangement.
Flynn has offered evolving accounts of his lobbying work for Alptekin. In September, Flynn reported his client as a Dutch shell company owned by Alptekin. After being forced to leave the White House reportedly because he lied to Vice President Mike Pence about his conversations during the transition with the Russian ambassador Flynn filed new paperwork in March acknowledging that his lobbying work principally benefitted the Turkish government.
The revelation of Russian business ties to the man who hired Flynn which has not been previously reported threatens to complicate the White Houses struggle to escape the shadow of the FBI investigation into whether members of the Trump campaign coordinated with Russian agents.
and a lot more at http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/25/michael-flynn-turkey-russia-237550
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Fenderputty
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They didn't give it to him. So either his story isn't interesting or they don't need it
Fenderputty
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We will find out when Yates testifies
HammerOfThor
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Is that still happening?
PhoenixDawn
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Yep, it finally is. May 8th. (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/25/sally-yates-james-clapper-russia-testimony-schedule-237568)
Too bad it didn't land on May 4th. Would make that day even cooler
Fenderputty
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"My client has done nothing wrong"
"Please give my client immunity"
innervision961
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Too bad war with NK is moving in lockstep with all this. I wish we'd uncover the truth before it's too late to act on it.
Sho_Nuff82
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OP, what the hell with that thread title? The CNN article title is "House oversight committee: Flynn might have broken the law", the NY Times title is "Flynn May Have Broken Law by Not Disclosing Russia Dealings, Lawmakers Say". My grad PI would have had a stroke reading how you worded that. It's not even an actual quote!
But did they ask about money? And what was on the official forms?
But did they ask about money? And what was on the official forms?
They are still withholding evidence.
It's a reflection of Chaffetz' bizarre mealy mouthed phrasing. I did get a bit of a stroke tho. But it's an accurate portrayal of another layer of BS from the house.
I thought they finally gave it up?
Jesus. How can they just blatantly withhold evidence like this?
SomewhatGroovy
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He can't not never be innocent.
The WH isn't giving him up though.
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That's how the news alert was worded and is similar to the headline at the time I posted the thread. It mirrors what Chaffetz said.
House Oversight Committee chairman Jason Chaffetz tells NBCs Kasie Hunt why he thinks the White House does not have any foreign payment documents relating to former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn.
Source and video: http://www.nbcnews.com/video/chaffe...cuments-because-they-don-t-exist-929173571587
Source and video: http://www.nbcnews.com/video/chaffe...cuments-because-they-don-t-exist-929173571587
my first thought exactly.
RPGCrazied
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Flynn was NSA for a week. How many calls could he have made in that time? You can fork over those calls, its not a lot. Jesus.
Lord Frieza
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Lol, this doesn't even address the allegations.
Lord Frieza
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Guess the dog ate it, fucking lord.
victreeb3l
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The phrasing is really goofy, like trying to say the opposite of what really happened.
RPGCrazied
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Aiding and abetting? Charge him too.
Lord Frieza
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He recused himself from any Russia related investigation
LucidMomentum
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If only Benjamin Ghazi were here with us today. He would get to the bottom of this.
Let me rephrase: are you all seriously expecting the Trump administration to charge former officials within its own administration?
They're already withholding documents relating to Flynn that would prove he violated the law from Congress. It seems reasonable to think they'd also withhold those documents from the court.
I absolutely think Flynn should be charged, but I'm having trouble seeing a path in which that actually happens.
They're already withholding documents relating to Flynn that would prove he violated the law from Congress. It seems reasonable to think they'd also withhold those documents from the court.
I absolutely think Flynn should be charged, but I'm having trouble seeing a path in which that actually happens.
How I see it happening is that the intelligence committee continues its investigation over the next several months and releases whatever dirt they can find on the Trump admin after the 2018 elections. I'm sure they can get more serious stuff then the House committee.
After that point Trump will have either done so little, or done nothing but fuck up the country and democrats will have the majority in congress again. Then the impeachment process starts.
We all no the republicans won't try to impeach Trump because they're party over country. Apparently even when it comes to treason.
BackLogJoe
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Lol. He's not facing a death sentence.
Widdle Puppy
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So did he or did he not break the law. It's a fairly straight forward question. Did he break the law? If he did what evidence is there that he did? If he didn't break the law, okay. What procedures did he follow that had him in step with the law?
Sho_Nuff82
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My apologies, having watched the NBC video, it appears he did actually say that at the end.
When asked straight up by the press if Flynn broke the law, Chaffetz said "There is no evidence that he didn't". Chaffetz is arguing that Flynn never sought permission from the Secretary of State or the Army for his foreign ventures, which is in violation of the law.
BlastProcessing
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I will give Chaffetz a little credit here. He is doing an active investigation. It's not appropriate for him to just drop a verdict to a reporter. He actually pushed his rhetoric pretty far as it is. It was definitely a calculated shot across the White House's bow. He is asking the White House for more information while simultaneously saying that without more information Flynn is toast. It's a pretty tidy little threat, really.
Of course, the White House is so feckless and incompetent that Chaffetz's pressure will have little to no effect.
Mental auto-complete and leading with "No evidence" got me. It got me good.
It's surreal.
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