It's often expected and really not the end of the world... women put themselves at risk of physical violence every time they go on a date with some weirdo dude they don't know yet, so IMO the least we can do is buy their coffee on date #1 then talk to them about splitting the bill on future dates if it's a big enough issue.
Yea u p much summed up how things are. But is this morally ok
Being aware of the privilege you experience as a male is important, as is respecting a person's background, position, and whether they feel safe and comfortable.Why are a women's shitty dates automatically an obligation for me to pay for her meals when it comes to dating me? I just don't get the correlation.
I want to show them a good time so I'll treat the person when I invite them out. What does that have to do with anything they've had to deal with in their life up until that point?
I'm just a bit confused
lol, that's the morning chuckle I needed to get the old cogs going!Whoever is less attractive pays
If you can't ok because it's financially irresponsible to spend money that you only could spend once not twice. Especially such a modest amount.If you invite a woman out to dinner you should pay for it. You should not even be asking women out if you can't or won't pay for her meal.
It's often expected and really not the end of the world... women put themselves at risk of physical violence every time they go on a date with some weirdo dude they don't know yet, so IMO the least we can do is buy their coffee on date #1 then talk to them about splitting the bill on future dates if it's a big enough issue.
Why are a women's shitty dates automatically an obligation for me to pay for her meals when it comes to dating me? I just don't get the correlation.
I want to show them a good time so I'll treat the person when I invite them out. What does that have to do with anything they've had to deal with in their life up until that point?
I'm just a bit confused
This might be the only nice thing about being gay, lol.
I'm tryin brother. What more can u do amirite.
I've never had a date where it's not 50/50, yup.What even happens if you're gay
Is it automatic dutch?
I'm not sure many people go on dates for free food.The dating world would be way better if the girl paid her part. That would mean she's definitely interested in you, rather than a free meal.
I've never had a date where it's not 50/50, yup.
It's often expected and really not the end of the world... women put themselves at risk of physical violence every time they go on a date with some weirdo dude they don't know yet, so IMO the least we can do is buy their coffee on date #1 then talk to them about splitting the bill on future dates if it's a big enough issue.
Yup my feelings as well.An outdated custom, but one I adhere to. I'm cool with it, the world has bigger problems, but I'd love to see it go away eventually.
I've dated girls who swear up and down they want to split the bill, only later for them to tell me they had wished I had payed, LMAO.
Like damn, don't offer to split or pay unless you're sincere. It's cool, I'm 150% A-Ok with footing the bill, no need to make things complicated.
This is the most white knight comment I've read in a long time
I expect women to pay, at least if they want some of my dadbod later in the night.
Ask the waiter to place the check in front of her. Be a gentleman and offer to pay half. Presumably eat a Mentos and give the waiter a thumbs up.
(Usually I'm OK with paying.)
Haha, so true. She always insists on sharing, guess I got a good one there.The dating world would be way better if the girl paid her part. That would mean she's definitely interested in you, rather than a free meal.
Being aware of the privilege you experience as a male is important, as is respecting a person's background, position, and whether they feel safe and comfortable.
I'm just saying, I'm not gonna sweat who pays for a $5 coffee on date #1 when it can be additionally stressful for women to go on a modern first date with a guy, which are often "blind" dates through a dating website.
I will say that if you ask to split the bill on a future dinner date and they get weird/rude about it, they aren't worth it.
...Who the hell goes to a legit dinner on a first date now a days?
IMO if women want equal pay in the workplace, then they need to be expected to pay for half a date. If you have a problem with paying for part of the date, don't expect equal pay.
IMO if women want equal pay in the workplace, then they need to be expected to pay for half a date. If you have a problem with paying for part of the date, don't expect equal pay.
IMO if women want equal pay in the workplace, then they need to be expected to pay for half a date. If you have a problem with paying for part of the date, don't expect equal pay.
IMO if women want equal pay in the workplace, then they need to be expected to pay for half a date. If you have a problem with paying for part of the date, don't expect equal pay.
Funny, I'd guess men are under more stress on first date on average, due to cultural norms that put more of the responsibility on them to take an active role and make the date work.I'm just saying, I'm not gonna sweat who pays for a $5 coffee on date #1 when it can be additionally stressful for women to go on a modern first date with a guy, which are often "blind" dates through a dating website.
I've never had a date where it's not 50/50, yup.
LolThis might be the only nice thing about being gay, lol.
You disagree, cool. I'd suggest you talk to some of the women you know that are 35 or younger about their worst dating experiences... I think you'd be appalled by the creepy shit most women have gone through at least a few times in their lives, especially those that use OKC, Tinder, etc.
IMO if women want equal pay in the workplace, then they need to be expected to pay for half a date. If you have a problem with paying for part of the date, don't expect equal pay.
Weird that Germany (and the Netherlands?) is the most progressive on this issue, even more so than Sweden.It's expected i guess? Im from Sweden and i always pay the bills on a date, and i don't mind that at all.
Funny, I'd guess men are under more stress on first date on average, due to cultural norms that put more of the responsibility on them to take an active role and make the date work.
Err what makes you think that I don't talk with my female friends about that all the time? And none of them would support your idea that men are somehow obliged to invite them, I assure you.
Not only don't I see the connection why a man should pay for a woman because that woman might have a bad date with another guy, but I also find it kinda sad to think that money would somehow solve that problem ;-)
IMO if women want equal pay in the workplace, then they need to be expected to pay for half a date. If you have a problem with paying for part of the date, don't expect equal pay.
This might be the only nice thing about being gay, lol.
What even happens if you're gay
Is it automatic dutch?
I've never had a date where it's not 50/50, yup.
Weird that Germany (and the Netherlands?) is the most progressive on this issue, even more so than Sweden.