So I was under the impression GS and MS had some kind of agreement going for the used games thing but it might not be as cozy as it comes off. I went to my local spot today to try and find a copy of PGR4, only to see on the TV (which usually markets various upcoming games) a bunch of footage from Sony's E3 conference. The footage however continued to put emphasis on the lack of DRM and selling used games over and over rather than the games. The employee also has hand outs explaining all the Xbox one rules and restrictions to every consumer that ask about the console.
Anyone else see anything like this? Would be an interesting situation if it's a wide scale thing. I think the more pressure on them the better, but I wonder if I just have a lone fan going postal or if GS is going to remove focus on the system.
you asked all the shops in your area?
I kid I kid
How do they restock a console that has no physical units made yet? It's probably still available due to cancellations.
Funny, The guy at my gamestop didn't attempt to sway me to the PS4 at all.
Processed my X1 preorder pretty quick.
We actually ended up talking for a while about E3 and the different games.
The other employee of the two was super stoked on a certain PS4 game, but neither mentioned a single thing about DRM or trades.
I hope they are. This might be the first time i actively want a system to crash and burn so bad.
Can't believe that many people are pre-ordering the XO lol.
How do they restock a console that has no physical units made yet? It's probably still available due to cancellations.
I think you guys are over estimating the power of gamestop. This isnt 2005 anymore. Many people will preorder online and even through the 360 dashboard.
This is a delaying tatic for gamespot. Nothing more or less. There will still sustaintial X1s sold this year.
The real battleground is next year when the launch adopters dry up.
This is just the Western perspective. I'm pretty sure in Asia, including Japan, the ratio will just get more lopsided in favour of Sony.
Can't believe that many people are pre-ordering the XO lol.
MS has to see this coming, they cannot launch under these circumstances. The XBone is not the PS3, things wont get better for it. If it bombs at launch, there is no potential for a resurrection especially considering the PS4 will going all in at the same time. They have to hit the ground running and somehow manage to carry the momentum, if they tank now Xbox is in real danger, once mindshare has changed just doing good enough wont be enough to pull you out of a hole, they would have to go back to hoping Sony fucks up again.
They have from now to November to sort this shit out or they are in deep shit
Not going to be in Asia until late 2014
I know that and it makes things worst for MS.
Patriotism is one hell of a drug.
Gamestop and other electronics retailers fighting for life at this point. Gamers making a stand in defense of their consumer rights. Yet, a digital future is inevitable.
Gamestop will realize a similar fate to Blockbuster. Best Buy to Circuit City and Comp USA.
The transition may be slowed momentarily but, it will not be stopped. Archaic business models and unrealistic expectations. Nothing more, nothing less.
Keeping that fanboyism flame alive one post at a time.
Keeping that fanboyism flame alive one post at a time.
The real test for Microsoft is not North America, where it still can succeed. The real test will be Euroe. I feel that Sony has a chance to dominate them over there...
Nothing is set in stone of course, as the formidable Microsoft marketing machine could always break many wills. We shall see...
Hang on a second, I didn't make anything up White Knight Mgee and yeah Master Chief Avatar who cares, you have a dog in a suit drinking a martini Big whoop wanna fight about it?
Now the next thing you say is that I am saying Microsoft isn't to blame, thats not what I said, I said they're not entirely to blame. Yes Microsoft went to the Publishers about it, but what stopped the Publishers saying no? Microsoft can't put forward a console without games.
The only way I see the check in system being a problem is for people with no internet connection for whom yes I feel sorry for, but still it doesn't affect me, so it doesn't bother me that much
Personally I like the cloud, the way Microsoft are implementing it isn't the right way in my opinion, but its still a good idea.
As for Kinect, I never even mentioned that and don't care either way, first thing I'll be doing is covering the mic and camera anyways so I don't have to use the bloody thing.
Now for all the effort you put into saying I made things up and twisting what I said so I looked like a moronic fanboy it could've been put to better use offering a less patronizing response.
I'm not a fanboy, I simply like the system itself. I don't care about the DRM because I have an internet connection, I agree its a horribly implemented system that simply will kill the Xbox One until they take it away months after the system launches (hopefully) but still, it won't affect me, so I'm not going to take to the internet to blindly put the console down when aside from the DRM issues it looks like a pretty slick console.
And yeah I do doubt it, Publishers have been shoving bullshit DRM features down our throats for years on both PS3 and on X360, this next gen isn't going to be any different no matter what Sony says, they only way they've got it better is their lack of the proprietry bullshit microsoft have on the Xbox one.
I'm buying both consoles by the way, before you play the fanboy card, I'm a fan of both systems, but there are flaws with both.
I think it's perfectly logical to be a fan of Sony, so that Microsoft is more likely to fail and DRM will be forgotten.Keeping that fanboyism flame alive one post at a time.
What the hell? That doesn't look like a cat. Maybe a bear or funky pug.First, it's a cat in a tuxedo drinking a martini.
Second, yes. I want to fight about it. I want to have a no-holds barred streetfight with you over games systems. On the internet. You have insulted my honor, sir.
This is a joke, BTW.
From all I've seen and read and talked to, from around 200 people ONE (how fitting) has said to buy the Xbox one (and only because he buys both).
It's DOA in europe. Hell it's DOA anywhere but in america.
First, it's a cat in a tuxedo drinking a martini.
Second, yes. I want to fight about it. I want to have a no-holds barred streetfight with you over games systems. On the internet. You have insulted my honor, sir.
This is a joke, BTW.
So Microsoft "isn't entirely to blame" even though they came up with the scheme in the first place, because the publishers didn't say "no?"
Wow...you. Wow.
You're a great representative of the modern Xbox One apologist.
Meaningless.
If you do that, enjoy the screen telling you there's something wrong, and asking you to re-calibrate your Kinect. Because that's all you're going to get for applications that require it if you try that.
I really don't have to twist anything you've said. Nor did I. You're doing fine on your own.
I didn't use the word fanboy once. I may have called you an apologist, which is based onn nothing but the contents of your post, which is an accurate assessment. I personally have no problems with people who admit they are pulling for one system or another. I find honesty admirable.
When I said people might give you shit for the Master Chief avatar along with the contents of your post, I was joking around. I think you protest too much.
All I did was disagree with your strange assertion that Microsoft wasn't entirely to blame FOR THEIR OWN POLICIES which they created, and which they presented to publishers. I also found it curious that you have come up with a prediction that you "seriously doubt sony will be able to deliver everything they said about lack of DRM," which is completely baseless and only seems to exist to tick every box on the "Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt" checklist.
First, it's a cat in a tuxedo drinking a martini.
What the hell? That doesn't look like a cat. Maybe a bear or funky pug.
wikipedia said:Raymond Quentin "Ray" Smuckles is a cat, specifically, an American Curl, a breed that originated from Lakewood, California. Ray is financially successful after selling his soul to the devil in exchange for success in pop music. He has expertise in such diverse fields as cookery, alcohol, underground street dancing, piano playing, entrepreneurship and women.
*looks at your display pic*
If Gamestop is fighting a war with the Xbox One, they're doing a bad job. They didn't even send out an "PRE-ORDER THE PS4" email yet they sent out a "PRE-ORDER THE XBOX ONE EMAIL." They advertise the Xbox One more, and they don't have a "Why we're excited for PS4" section.
Gamestop is just informing consumer of what the system does, so they are informed and are in the known, because legally they have too. Don't want a family with no Internet buying the Xbox One, or misleading consumers that might be upset and return the system.
If Gamestop is fighting a war with the Xbox One, they're doing a bad job. They didn't even send out an "PRE-ORDER THE PS4" email yet they sent out a "PRE-ORDER THE XBOX ONE EMAIL." They advertise the Xbox One more, and they don't have a "Why we're excited for PS4" section.
Gamestop is just informing consumer of what the system does, so they are informed and are in the known, because legally they have too. Don't want a family with no Internet buying the Xbox One, or misleading consumers that might be upset and return the system.
do you know that the ads rotate when you refresh the page.
do you know that the ads rotate when you refresh the page.
Gamestop sees the writing on the wall, so they are doing their best to stay alive for as long as possible. All digital is the future, and good luck with their business plan in a world with no trade ins. People may as well resign themselves to that fact now.
since you guys are calling it the xbone and we're talking about Ray i'm posting the comic
Do they? Lol I just checked the page once to see. Huh. Didn't know that. Either way, still doesn't explain why they have no "Why we're excited for the Xbox One!" page but not a "Why we're excited for the Playstation 4!" page.
Also why they sent emails out for the Xbox One but not for Playstation 4 telling you to pre-order. Unless it's just me that didn't get a Playstation 4 email.
Really doesn't seem to me like Gamestop is having a war with Microsoft, just they're informing customers so they don't get screwed over because they didn't know they need Internet for the system, or something.
They need to do more and bring this online too. No lies nor propaganda, just a list of facts about the requirements and restrictions this system imposes which gamers will not be used to nor would they expect. There has never been a single console that requires internet connection to function, nor that blocked free sale of usd games.
If Gamestop is fighting a war with the Xbox One, they're doing a bad job. They didn't even send out an "PRE-ORDER THE PS4" email yet they sent out a "PRE-ORDER THE XBOX ONE EMAIL." They advertise the Xbox One more, and they don't have a "Why we're excited for PS4" section.
Gamestop is just informing consumer of what the system does, so they are informed and are in the known, because legally they have too. Don't want a family with no Internet buying the Xbox One, or misleading consumers that might be upset and return the system.
2 PS4 related ads, You missed infamous Second Son
The thing is the day 1 launch PS4 is sold out here so it cant sell anymore to fill that first place roll. Secondly, look at the top selling games. The multiplats are PS4 versions.
Oof, the PS camera is outselling Forza? Yikes.