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Killer Instinct is F2P, only one fighter is free
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Wow, that's a really useful gif for just about anything XBone related.
Sure, but imagine to pay to even try playing King in Tekken. Or that Akuma is the most expensive character in Street Fighter.
So many ways to fuck up. So little time.
How is it dumb? You're getting a game you don't have to pay a penny to play.
I don't mind. And don't forget how much money Valve makes off accessories in TF2.
Now don't do something stupid like tell me KI is no TF2. The point is that it's a strategy to attract gamers to a console and subscription service.
Also, this is just another move towards games as a service on an all-digital console. I actually like it if they make a great fighter.
Now don't do something stupid like tell me KI is no TF2. The point is that it's a strategy to attract gamers to a console and subscription service.
Also, this is just another move towards games as a service on an all-digital console. I actually like it if they make a great fighter.
That's convenient, because now no one wants to play it anyway.
IceDoesntHelp
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So not is it only being developed by Double Helix Games. Who brought us such hits as Silent Hill: Homecoming, Battleship and Green Lanturn: RotM, but it's also F2P..:lol
the game was mega huge back in the days. It was a new fresh contender after years of SF2 and MK dominations in the arcades. Also the CGI graphics were incredible for it time. It was the first of its kind. you had to be there when it came out. Comparing a fighting game released in 1994 to a modern fighter is just dumb as saying the gameplay is crap by seeing one minute of demo gameplay.
That f2p stuff is complete suicide. I'm a pretty damn hardcore KI fan, i even own the arcade games, but there is no way I'll even bother with this bullshit.
Would you prefer to pay £40/$60?
No, it's like SFIV, but worse. At least in that game all the characters are available to you right out of the gate and players are free to experiment with any of the cast. with Killer Instinct, I have to be willing to commit with my wallet just to try a character out. If it turns out that I don't enjoy playing with a character as much as I thought I would, I have to shell out again to try someone else. Then there's the effect it has on local multiplayer. Running a Killer Instinct tournament becomes an expensive and tedious affair when you have to provide multiple setups with every character purchased. Or the scenario of going to a friend's house only to discover that they havehn't purchased any of the characters you play.
There's a reason that other Free-To-Play games that charge for characters have a regular rotation of free characters: To keep multiplayer diverse and to encourage people to try out the entire cast. Killer Instinct combines the worst elements of Traditional Fighting games and the Free-To-Play model to create a colossal disaster.
evilromero
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After Netherrealm properly updating MK with 9, this is just utter trash.
Yes. I still would not buy it probably because Killer Instinct is complete crap, but i would skip on actually good fighting games because of this.
Well, i'm willing to give these guys a try. licensed games are always catastrophic projects but they put food on the table; i'm sure that the guys behind this are really motivated to have a real title of their own.
It seems they worked on several fighting game ports and like I said, they sound very motivated; it just sucks that they went with the F2P model, its almost suicidal.
It seems they worked on several fighting game ports and like I said, they sound very motivated; it just sucks that they went with the F2P model, its almost suicidal.
The barrier to game altering content in Valve games is very low (TF2) or nonexistent (Dota 2). Valve's bread and butter in their F2P games are cosmetics.
Also, you can get all the weapons in TF2 for free via trading, or, if you're impatient, $5 (if you game the trading system).
Because you have no incentive to buy any characters outside of your main and the developer has no incentive to fix broken characters that haven't sold well or nerf over-powerful characters that are selling really well.
Imagine a P2P Street Fighter IV. Everyone would buy Ken, Ryu and Sagat and that's it.
That's why P2P doesn't work in every genre.
None of those characters are cammy though
KaiserBecks
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...but, you were willing to commit with your wallet when you bought SFIV. You already paid for every single character.
Maybe the game will recognize your purchases when you log in as a second player and unlocks them as long as you're playing? That would require an online connection even for local multiplayer, of course. But I guess that's not a concern given the system you bought.
ghosttouchdowns
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Wow. I usually have to play like 10 characters in a game before I decide which one will be my main. Hopefully the prices match up so that you are only paying for an average full game.
The prices will matter cause I am willing to drop $60 to get all the characters, but not $100+.
Also, I would hope it won't be like current DLC where you can only fight characters you have (Injustice?).
The actual game seems to be getting great reviews from some of the fighting game players and other developers. This was the game that was going to sell me an Xbone, but damn not if this f2p turns out to be a rip off.
The prices will matter cause I am willing to drop $60 to get all the characters, but not $100+.
Also, I would hope it won't be like current DLC where you can only fight characters you have (Injustice?).
The actual game seems to be getting great reviews from some of the fighting game players and other developers. This was the game that was going to sell me an Xbone, but damn not if this f2p turns out to be a rip off.
Terrible idea.
Also I noticed an interesting string of coincidences with this. Namco is doing something conceptually similar with Tekken Revolution. FilthieRich just moved from Namco to working on KI3*. And Harada definitely pitched Tekken Revolution to Microsoft**
Maybe this idea is a result of that?
(*SOURCE: http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/...ent-edition-2-fight-stick-confirmed-xbox-one/ )
(**SOURCE: http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/...i-japan-asia-and-europe-release-date-june-12/ )
Also I noticed an interesting string of coincidences with this. Namco is doing something conceptually similar with Tekken Revolution. FilthieRich just moved from Namco to working on KI3*. And Harada definitely pitched Tekken Revolution to Microsoft**
Maybe this idea is a result of that?
(*SOURCE: http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/...ent-edition-2-fight-stick-confirmed-xbox-one/ )
(**SOURCE: http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/...i-japan-asia-and-europe-release-date-june-12/ )
They haven't really detailed anything about the F2P stuff, right? At least not in the linked article. So for all we know you may be able to try out characters in a training mode, or there may be a rotation of free characters.
But hey, let's jump to conclusions.
This is pretty gross.
I don't mind F2P, in fact I've been a supporter for quite some time, but F2P doesn't belong in a fighting game.
Not that it really matters to me, KI is one of the worst fighting games I have played. So, it's merely exploiting those that have a nostalgia factor for the series.
I don't mind F2P, in fact I've been a supporter for quite some time, but F2P doesn't belong in a fighting game.
Not that it really matters to me, KI is one of the worst fighting games I have played. So, it's merely exploiting those that have a nostalgia factor for the series.
BlazingDarkness
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Insane Metal
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What the hell is Microsoft doing this gen? It's all going wrong.
Ladies and gentlemen, it seems your hype was misplaced to begin with.
Let's be completely clear, this game isn't being developed by Rare. It's being developed by Double Helix. Makers of hits such as:
Silent Hill Homecoming - 64 on metacritic
G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra - 40s on metacritic
Battleship: The movie, the game - 40s on metacritic
Green Lantern: Rise of the Manhunters - 50s to low 60s on metacritic
You guys really think this shit was going to be good to begin with? Come on, son.
Let's be completely clear, this game isn't being developed by Rare. It's being developed by Double Helix. Makers of hits such as:
Silent Hill Homecoming - 64 on metacritic
G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra - 40s on metacritic
Battleship: The movie, the game - 40s on metacritic
Green Lantern: Rise of the Manhunters - 50s to low 60s on metacritic
You guys really think this shit was going to be good to begin with? Come on, son.
A Serious Man
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The "pay for characters" thing works in something like League of Legends when you have dozens of characters and the player starts out with several to choose from. Starting out with one basically just turns the base game into a glorified demo.
The Main Event
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Bahahaha. Just kill it already.
According to Max Street Fighter X Tekken was really good too.
BrLvgThrChmstry
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for a fully featured game? yeah.
Making games, which everyone wanted. And now they make games, sadly.
It makes sense, as in every fighter i've owned i've only really played as a small proportion of the characters.
I think a F2P fighter should have all characters unlocked, but you can only play as them for say 2 fights each. AT least then you get a taste of each fighter so you know what you're investing your money in.
I think a F2P fighter should have all characters unlocked, but you can only play as them for say 2 fights each. AT least then you get a taste of each fighter so you know what you're investing your money in.
I'm definitely on the F2P hater-force but that actually doesn't seem as bad as one would think. Most people stick to a only a handful of characters and maybe sample the others. I sure as hell wouldn't pay $60 for this type of fighting game in 2013 that's for sure. As long as the total cost isn't adding up to something ridiculous like twice a normal game I'll be okay with it (I understand that's not super likely).
PlanetSmasher
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This is going to be like playing Street Fighter IV on launch week, times a thousand.
I still remember it so vividly. So many Kens. So many Kens...
I still remember it so vividly. So many Kens. So many Kens...
Perhaps a good idea would be to see how much content you get for £40 and make a judgement as to whether it justifies the expense.
friskykillface
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LOL wow, I've got no words for this
Pack it up microsoft, I was actually gonna keep up with this in info and vids but first double helix and F2P game
Lmao wow.
Fulgore and Spinal will probably cost the most
Pack it up microsoft, I was actually gonna keep up with this in info and vids but first double helix and F2P game
Lmao wow.
Fulgore and Spinal will probably cost the most
who wouldn't? The alternative is to pay 200 bucks for every character. Game is Pay2Win at this stage.
Best Buy has $60 retail SKU setup on their site. I would assume that means there are two options for players to play this game:
1) FTP w/ 1 character and option to buy more
2) Full $60 purchase with all launch characters available, DLC later with more characters
If this is the case I don't see a problem here.
1) FTP w/ 1 character and option to buy more
2) Full $60 purchase with all launch characters available, DLC later with more characters
If this is the case I don't see a problem here.
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