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Killlzone Shadow Fall's SP runs at unlocked frame rate
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BloodMoney
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Yea, what is everyone fussing about. All my PC fps are tweaked to run between 40-60fps (best performance vs graphics IMO).
Probably because you're looking at higher than 60fps on a 60Hz display.
PhoenixDawn
Member
It'd be better off locket at 30 than variable slightly above it. Hopefully they offer an option or patch in locked 30fps because a variable framerate is terrible for most games as it makes it seem like the game is constantly experiencing slowdown when it's switching from a slightly higher framerate to a slightly lower one.
Ghost Cell
Banned
Nice. As long as there is no screen tearing, I don't mind this.
legacyzero
Banned
Because if the consensus is that it's not THAT bad, then it's tolerable. I'm a pretty laid back dude
I had no problems with GOW3, had the "feel of 60fps" for me, so this is great news. Guess I'm immune to judder.
Sucks for those who can't stand it though.
I have a question: Can games shoot for 40fps and it plays judder free with 120Hz TV's but with judder with 60Hz TV's? Wouldn't that be a good compromise and an opportunity for Sony to sell you a 120Hz TV? Can the PS4 output 120Hz?
Sucks for those who can't stand it though.
I have a question: Can games shoot for 40fps and it plays judder free with 120Hz TV's but with judder with 60Hz TV's? Wouldn't that be a good compromise and an opportunity for Sony to sell you a 120Hz TV? Can the PS4 output 120Hz?
i asked him a question about sunset riders once.
What a lazy gif...
AgentOtaku
Member
uuuuggggh
HAAAATE this shit and yeah, judging from the judder during pans with the demos they did, I kinda suspected it
HAAAATE this shit and yeah, judging from the judder during pans with the demos they did, I kinda suspected it
People that played Crysis back in 2007 must've been on constant sudoku watch
I'm glad I can't really see judder either. I'm very picky when it comes to PQ but I don't notice it at all.
A 120Hz TV should be able to output a 40fps game without judder.
ComputerMKII
Banned
So it's not 60 fps. Goddammit.
valkillmore
Member
Has it been mentioned anywhere if there are contextual in-game moments where the rate will jump? Or is the variation strictly based on the action happening on-screen that the gamer creates? I could appreciate the rate jumping up during those 'focus' moments in the stealth video. That would be very cool, extra frames during the slow mo. Do I know what I'm talking about?
Single player campaign was never going to be 60fps. Multiplayer is 60fps though.
Single player campaign was never going to be 60fps. Multiplayer is 60fps though.
AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
GG said they would lock it at 30 FPS, but I guess they decided against it.
Thoughts? Very strange no?
Minimum FPS = 30
Max FPS = 60
With V-sync of course
If it enables v-sync, it will be at 30 fps most the time and occasionally jump to 60. I don't think that is what he is saying. Either they are triple buffering or the have a solution like GoW3 with motion blur to mask the effect.
They must have a greater than 30 fps a significant amount of the time and don't want to waste it. I trust them, they know their tech.
MP is 60. We had been told that SP was 30 until now. I still think part of the reason for unlocking the SP was to make it less jarring when you go between SP and MP.
Multiplayer is 60fps.
We've known for months it was SP=30 MP=60
GOW3 had triplebuffering
TheLegendary
Member
Unlocked framerate is the worst. I have no idea why developers choose to do this.
fastford58
Member
As long as it stays above 30, I dun care. PC games fluctuate quite a bit and I'm not bothered by it.
AgentP
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No it didn't, go read the DF article.
Risk Breaker
Member
I like unlocked framerate, I must be inmune to judder (I'm not inmune to stutter at all, though). If you have 10 more FPS, five them to me. Thank you GG.
Locking games to 30 or 60 doesn't always solve stutter if it's there to begin with, btw.
Locking games to 30 or 60 doesn't always solve stutter if it's there to begin with, btw.
Pop
Member
So now you don't trust GG? jesus
They have already stated it's running between 35-40fps, so it's most likely rarely going above 40(unless staring at the sky) and not below 30. How is that bad? Pls one of you who think you know better than GG themselves, explain why it's soooo bad.
ChronotriggerJM
Member
Perfect solution for most people I think. They're damned if they do, damned if they don't.
You've got a ton of people bitching about the difference in "feel" when you go from the single player to the multi-player. With an un-locked framerate they can bridge that.
Maybe if so many people didn't piss and whine about it they wouldn't have tried to find an in-between lol.
You've got a ton of people bitching about the difference in "feel" when you go from the single player to the multi-player. With an un-locked framerate they can bridge that.
Maybe if so many people didn't piss and whine about it they wouldn't have tried to find an in-between lol.
iamshadowlark
Banned
Nm see above.
VFX_Veteran
Banned
You can discern it quite easily. If you play games at 60fps for about a week and then turn on a game that runs at 30fps, you'll swear it's choppy.
In the SP footage, I'm so used to high FPS that I can tell some scenes are running lower than 30FPS -- like that outdoor scene with the trees and stuff. It's moving very choppy.
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GG said they would lock it at 30 FPS, but I guess they decided against it.
Thoughts? Very strange no?
Minimum FPS = 30
Max FPS = 60
With V-sync of course
With V-sync and above 30? Who cares.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
If it works like NVIDIA Adaptive VSync then i'm all for this. Lock if it reaches 60 fps, unlock if it dips below. Playing the game at 40-50fps is better than locked 30 fps.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Play original MGS2 & MGS3 that was the first I ever noticed a difference.
everyone said I was weird for thinking MGS2's graphics were better.
smoothness of the high FPS made it so.
ChronotriggerJM
Member
I thought 3 was much better looking :x
So I guess some people have concluded that GG has single-handedly solved one of the intractable problems in computer graphics through software alone.
Tearing or judder, pick one.
And naturally the game will, occasionally, drop below 30 fps because you can't operate that close to the threshold without the rare disastrous edge case dragging you under.
Tearing or judder, pick one.
And naturally the game will, occasionally, drop below 30 fps because you can't operate that close to the threshold without the rare disastrous edge case dragging you under.
AgentP
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/the-making-of-god-of-war-iii?page=3
They never claimed triple buffering originally, so maybe years later for the Ascension article they either finally did or the new author just assumed it. Someone got it wrong at DF.
dr_rus
Member
Or it can actually work with v-sync always, you know. There should be enough memory to implement triple buffering for that.
AgentP
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Triple buffering is the simplest and most natural solution, a small amount of added latency, but no more tearing or judder. Who cares about the memory needed for the extra buffer, the PS4 has plenty and it is not hampered by a small 32MB pool of RAM.
I'm still curious to see how the MP is. I haven't played any games from the KZ franchise until this past week. The mechanics felt off. They could release the prettiest game imaginable and have it running at 1080/60fps but if the mechanics are shot I'm not interested. It felt like my character was moving in quicksand. If the MP is anywhere near the old KZ's I'm going to sell my PS4. There aren't any other titles I'm too interested in. I'll be content with CS:GO on PC.
Cool, thanks
Triple Buffering is not related to stuttering. A game can an will stutter if it's not locked at 30 or 60fps, no matter the triple buffering.
Because 30-60 fps is a higher framerate than 30 fps locked the whole time. I have no idea why people don't get this? It's never going to look unsmooth as long as it doesn't go below 30. I don't believe it looks jarring at all to have it continuously transition between 30-60.
Why would you want to purposefully handicap your framerate?