I don't know if I'm inclined to entirely believe this.
I don't doubt that MS isn't happy with performance, but this sounds like people who were fired looking for reasons other than "no one wanted Fable Legends"
Lucas has 2 billion in shares and 2 billion in cash I believeI thought Lucas had some share in Disney in that deal, not pure $4 billion. Isn't that different from Minecraft deal?
I thought Lucas had some share in Disney in that deal, not pure $4 billion. Isn't that different from Minecraft deal?
MS would need ridiculus expectations for Minecraft to under perform. We just had an announcment that it sold over 100m. Story Mode I could see but even that must have done well for them to extend the season.
I don't know if I'm inclined to entirely believe this.
I don't doubt that MS isn't happy with performance, but this sounds like people who were fired looking for reasons other than "no one wanted Fable Legends"
win 10 installs fell short from projection ? that doesn't sound right unless they had unrealistic projections.
I don't think that was the cause, Windows 10 is doing pretty well, also Xbox One is selling better than 360 at the same time last gen, so even though they're behind PS4 they're selling well there too, i think it's just that Microsoft wasn't happy on how the game was turning
People don't get the type of returns corporations want when acquiring things.
And also as impressive as 50 million is(sold since acquisition), with the price range that minecraft goes for thats probably "only" $500million, without taking into consideration costs.
for something like $2billion, you expect 2 or 3 times your return within 3-5 years, at that rate your not going to get much of a return.
that's just the game though. Minecraft has a ton of merch and in-game stuff which you have to assume they get a fair cut of. Also there's deals like that Nintendo pack on the Wii U. Anyone who thinks Minecraft isn't racking it is mad.
That blame rest entirely upon Don Matrick. I hope he is happy having basically destroyed all the progress Microsoft made with the 360. I would have never expected myself to go Sony, and I'm still bitter at them about the Dreamcast. But Sony simply has the best videogame consoles on the market right now.
People don't get the type of returns corporations want when acquiring things.
And also as impressive as 50 million is(sold since acquisition), with the price range that minecraft goes for thats probably "only" $500million, without taking into consideration costs.
for something like $2billion, you expect 2 or 3 times your return within 3-5 years, at that rate your not going to get much of a return.
"Well, $2.5 billion, the interest on that is just $25 million a year. When they say break-even they don't mean they're going to get $2.5 billion back. That's sunk cost, they don't care. They're talking about from a GAAP reporting perspective - EPS Microsoft Corporation - they will make more from Minecraft than they lose from not having that money in the bank, generating interest ..."
I'm in oil & gas. The business division I'm in is making a LOT LOT LOT of money.
Everyday is a fucking disaster because every division is under-performing according to expectations. It doesn't fucking matter if we're profitable because we answer to our CEO who answer to shareholders.
Something can be very successful and still be "below expectations". Big-investment items have high expectations.
I don't know if I'm inclined to entirely believe this.
I don't doubt that MS isn't happy with performance, but this sounds like people who were fired looking for reasons other than "no one wanted Fable Legends"
Other than the Halo 5 projections none of the other ones seem anywhere close to reality. It would imply they expected to sell as many consoles as Sony which wouldn't be reasonable. Even if MS kept it's 360 lead in the US it would have still been behind Sony and they wouldn't be 2x the amount of xboxes.
The Windows 10 installs have been going as well as they can. Probably way more than most expected due to the basically deceptive manner in which they are getting people switched over.
Minecraft continues to sell consistently and its merchandise continues to fill the toy sections of big box retailers. I think a lot of people expected more of a decline without a sequel vs what we have now.
Finally the idea that Lionhead would be saved if Microsoft was willing to give up the Fable IP is a bit of a leap. When Sony shutdown Evolution Studios it didn't stop Codemasters from snatching up the talent.
People don't get the type of returns corporations want when acquiring things.
And also as impressive as 50 million is(sold since acquisition), with the price range that minecraft goes for thats probably "only" $500million, without taking into consideration costs.
for something like $2billion, you expect 2 or 3 times your return within 3-5 years, at that rate your not going to get much of a return.
No doubt Minecraft has continued to be a huge success after MS acquired it.
The point is that likely the majority of that success came from direct sales of the java version, iOS, Android, and the existing consoles versions across Xbox, Playstation and now Nintendo.
MS have gained little to no strategic advantage from the acquisition. They have not succeeded in bringing users over to the Windows App Store.
Where are you getting $500m? 50m*$15 (after 30% cut) that's $750k, and it should be more than that since they get the full $20 plus the $30 editions on WiiU/Xbox/Etc.People don't get the type of returns corporations want when acquiring things.
And also as impressive as 50 million is(sold since acquisition), with the price range that minecraft goes for thats probably "only" $500million, without taking into consideration costs.
for something like $2billion, you expect 2 or 3 times your return within 3-5 years, at that rate your not going to get much of a return.
It is not like that.Microsoft bought Minecraft in September 2014, and in June 2014, Minecraft was about to hit 54m. Since then, Minecraft has almost doubled.
So all in all, I can blame Phil Harrison for not having a Fable 4 and then he goes on and leaves Xbox. That fucker.
Is this still true, surely for the 360 to reach over 80M sales must have sped up. Are Xbox One sales not around 20M
Make you wonder if Minecraft 2 happened, they would release it on many platforms as possible or just MS platforms.
What caused Halo 5 to be a big miss? MCC? Halo 4?
This is what I dont get. You go buy Minecraft for a gajillion dollars then just repackage it in different ways for your platforms when there is already enough versions out there to suffice. For instance, the regular minecraft pc version vs the windows 10 version.
If youre gonna buy the biggest IP in decades, you might want to do something with it. Like make a sequel.
He gave Sony PS Home and then left. Guy gives no fucks lol.
343 simply can't wrap their head around what the fans of the series want from a Halo game.
The first forecast for Minecraft after MS happened for FY July 2015 to June 2016... the news now is because MS is ending this FY.It's sold like 50m copies since Microsoft bought it.
343 simply can't wrap their head around what the fans of the series want from a Halo game.
343 simply can't wrap their head around what the fans of the series want from a Halo game.
I'm sure a sequel is coming but at the same time you have to be careful to not damage the brand either, when the game is selling 50k a day would you release a sequel?This is what I dont get. You go buy Minecraft for a gajillion dollars then just repackage it in different ways for your platforms when there is already enough versions out there to suffice. For instance, the regular minecraft pc version vs the windows 10 version.
If youre gonna buy the biggest IP in decades, you might want to do something with it. Like make a sequel.
I don't think that was the cause, Windows 10 is doing pretty well, also Xbox One is selling better than 360 at the same time last gen, so even though they're behind PS4 they're selling well there too, i think it's just that Microsoft wasn't happy on how the game was turning
The first forecast for Minecraft after MS happened for FY July 2015 to June 2016... the news now is because MS is ending this FY.
How much they sold from July 2015? That is the number you need to use.
Low Xbox one sales along with MCC. I feel the Xbox ones position is hurting all of their exclusives