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Metal Gear Solid V announced (PS360, open world)
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Graphics Horse
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Can't say I noticed anything on his face while they're trying to keep him alive.
In fact the dialog implies he just went into a coma from his heart being stopped for too long.
Chico gave up those IFF codes. Bastard!
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
They didn't even ask him...? Harsh.
SJRB
Gold Member
The horn confuses you, but the robotic arm, the flaming whale, the flaming pegasus, the ghost visions, and the zombie Volgin are okay? Really?
Of course. Those all seem effects from his coma and/or drug intake. They're hallucinations. Or conjured by young Psycho Mantis.
Either way, they fit within the logic of the Metal Gear universe.
Big Boss having horns however is not something that can be explained in a similar fashion, hence why it sticks out [no pun intended].
Byakuya769
Member
If this takes place entirely within a coma state, that means Kojima has no reason to tell a coherent story. The perfect solution!
Rawket Lawnchair
Member
Unless all this craziness about unicorns, whales, horses etc are all inside Snake's head during the coma, I am out. This series had a good run until 10 years ago, but it's getting ridiculous.
I'm actually starting to think something along those lines is happening. This Ishmael guy sounds like a lighter Kiefer than Big Boss's one. Also he is the one injecting the drugs and helping him get out of there.
The line "drugs not working?" is because there are no drugs and he is doing this on willpower.
In other words, Ishmael is his imaginary friend.
He was weak to interrogations in Peace Walker so it would make sense
What's the thing on Snake's forehead, during that last segment? I've seen it a few times but can't figure out that it is. Kinda looks like a devilish horn, but that can't be right.
might have something to do with this http://www.aolnews.com/2011/01/10/chinas-huang-yuanfan-sprouts-3-inch-horn-from-head/
It's Kojima, the whole thing actually takes place inside Otacon's mind. He thinks he's that cool.
Net_Wrecker
Member
I honestly think only "The Phantom Pain" section of the game will look like this. We haven't seen much of the open world gameplay. All of this surreal, dreamlike stuff is probably just VR or coma/drug induced visions. I have a feeling the game will settle into "normal" MGS territory as soon as you get control of Big Boss with his new arm after the coma.
jacksepticeye
Member
MGS4 got away with it cos he didn't look like Snake/Big Boss anymore. he looks similar but obviously meant to look different and older so the voice suited. In GZ/PP he looks identical to how he did in MGS3 so having a different voice is odd.
To me Snakes defining feature was his voice, he didn't sound like anyone else and it matched his face very well. It wasn't the best quality voice acting but it was definitely apt. And for me Hayter is the one and only Snake. Imagine replacing Nathan Drake with someone or changing Master Chiefs voice
They had his body on ice all those years and he was somehow reconstructed by nanomachines (probably).
I think that is Miller, not Ocelot. The hairline is different. Also Miller sports a scarf.
Knux-Future
Banned
So hype.
It will be sad that Hayter wont be back...but perhaps Solid Snake will show up because reasons?
Maybe this isn't even BigBoss?
who knows...
I just want it now
It will be sad that Hayter wont be back...but perhaps Solid Snake will show up because reasons?
Maybe this isn't even BigBoss?
who knows...
I just want it now
Well, he does have history of easily caving in when tortured.
EdibleExplosives
Member
How the flying fuck did I miss this thread.
I have no clue what the fuck just happened in that trailer but I'm totally ready for a new MGS.
I have no clue what the fuck just happened in that trailer but I'm totally ready for a new MGS.
DecoyOctopus
Member
Probably not...
MGS4 isn't that highly regarded for it to be overrated.
Muffin Awesome
Member
Hold up, hold up, hold up.... There was no Vita variant announced was there?
If so this just smashed all my Vita owning dreams, I was holding out for an MGS developed for it. There is no emoticon that can convey my dissapointment...
If so this just smashed all my Vita owning dreams, I was holding out for an MGS developed for it. There is no emoticon that can convey my dissapointment...
That would be a good bet actually. Kojima knows how much the MGS fanbase adores Hayter. And i would be surprised if he just replaces him.
Dick Justice
Banned
BB wore gloves in 4. So yeah, now it looks like he had a prosthetic arm.
Callibretto
Member
subplot from peace walker, outer heaven is the first private military group and one of Cypher plan is to fire a nuke from motherbase and make them looks like terrorist group, a threat for every country in the world.
in Ground Zero trailer, you also hear conversation between big boss and miller about upcoming inspection from UN to motherbase.
so presumably, something will go wrong and Outer Heaven will be blamed for it.
What makes you think the coma ever ended? Do you think any of the game is real? It'll be pretty awesome if the game supposedly takes place in 1984, but there are no references to anything beyond 1975.
So we're supposed to believe that after the hospital scene(s), Snake gets a proper robotic arm, and starts up a new outfit called "Diamond Dogs" right? Bowie's Diamond Dogs album was released in.... 1974.
BloodMoney
Banned
Now THAT! is a trailer!!!
I thought about that too, however the character being a ghost could symbolize the Phantom part. Ishmael on the other hand, in history is either considered a hero or villain. Depending on your religious inclination or maybe even historical viewpoint. I mean after all the series is constantly portraying the "lost ones" mentality in which generations seem to branch off and make their own way. Which Ishmael is known for with his 12 tribes and early beginnings in Arab/Muslim history. I totally understand that Ishmael is the name of the main character in Moby Dick, but Kojima is crazy and has taught me to think of the craziest things to make sense of other things.
What's the thing on Snake's forehead, during that last segment? I've seen it a few times but can't figure out that it is. Kinda looks like a devilish horn, but that can't be right.
It looks like some kind of a home-remedy leaf bandage.
EDIT: Nah, just saw the trailer and whatever it is has a more dimensional shape.
jacksepticeye
Member
Most definitely. It's also an easy way to explain a lot of stuff away like flying flame whales.
Could also be he's afraid of Volgin coming back so he sees him in a demon form on fire that can disappear like an apparition.
Did you also notice how none of the main dudes have recognisable faces when he "Wakes up" in the hospital? they're all covered up or hidden. Further going the nightmare route
Yes, this is the most exciting aspect of TTP. They can really do something weird to mess with fans.
Maddocks
Member
Id watch it 20 times in theaters.
Phonomezer
Banned
Song in the trailer was good.
SniperHunter
Banned
That was all pycho mantis...didnt you play mgs1 and watch thw trailer?
Ask if it is coming to Next-Gen and PC
He probably will decline to answer, but maybe give us some clues.
This. It's time we saw Solid Snake's beginning and Big Boss's end. MG2 still holds up really well today, but Kojima should repaint the picture for fans not willing to go all the way back that far.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Yes, I'm going with sort-of Fight Club hallucination. To recap, this is based on:
-Ishmael and Big Boss are both voiced by Kiefer in the scene.
-Ishmael points back at Big Boss when Big boss asks him who he is.
-Ishmael corrects himself when he goes "I've--we..."
-Ishmael never supports Big Boss's weight to help him out of the hospital. He flips him over at one point, but not in a way that Big Boss wouldn't be able to do himself. Doesn't make sense whatsoever to leave Big Boss flopping around if they're trying to escape together and Ishmael is able to walk.
-Ishmael is a funky sort-of character sort-of omniscient narrator in Moby Dick. He introduces himself, but his attributes as a character fall away entirely as the story progresses. Here, in the very first line of the gameplay footage, Ishmael calls Big Boss "Ahab," so it's a direct reference to the scenario in Moby Dick.
-Obviously all sorts of other hallucinations are taking place. Volgin etc.
I think that should be sufficient ;b
-Ishmael and Big Boss are both voiced by Kiefer in the scene.
-Ishmael points back at Big Boss when Big boss asks him who he is.
-Ishmael corrects himself when he goes "I've--we..."
-Ishmael never supports Big Boss's weight to help him out of the hospital. He flips him over at one point, but not in a way that Big Boss wouldn't be able to do himself. Doesn't make sense whatsoever to leave Big Boss flopping around if they're trying to escape together and Ishmael is able to walk.
-Ishmael is a funky sort-of character sort-of omniscient narrator in Moby Dick. He introduces himself, but his attributes as a character fall away entirely as the story progresses. Here, in the very first line of the gameplay footage, Ishmael calls Big Boss "Ahab," so it's a direct reference to the scenario in Moby Dick.
-Obviously all sorts of other hallucinations are taking place. Volgin etc.
I think that should be sufficient ;b
jacksepticeye
Member
Really? All I ever see is people praising the heck out of it everywhere. Some other forums have kids gushing non stop about it and the reviews for it all giving perfect scores.
I think MGS4 is the weakest in the quadrilogy TBH. Didn't have that MGS magic
Graphics Horse
Member
What makes you think the coma ever ended? Do you think any of the game is real? It'll be pretty awesome if the game supposedly takes place in 1984, but there are no references to anything beyond 1975.
So we're supposed to believe that after the hospital scene(s), Snake gets a proper robotic arm, and starts up a new outfit called "Diamond Dogs" right? Bowie's Diamond Dogs album was released in.... 1974.
Possibly yeah... I'd point to his 80's inspired helicopter, but that's being used to fly him home in the 70's. I'd previously speculated that wouldn't show up until post-coma but it looks like it must be out of Mother Base's knack from building future tech ahead of time.
Snake's dead. This is Big Boss.
Yes, I know he had the same voice in some of the games, but as he gets older he starts looking and sounding less like Solid Snake and more like Sean Connery. It's time to move on.
Can you imagine if the whole hour is him saying "Unfortunately I cannot answer that" and then at the end he's like "All your questions will be answered at E3"
SkylineRKR
Member
What makes you think the coma ever ended? Do you think any of the game is real? It'll be pretty awesome if the game supposedly takes place in 1984, but there are no references to anything beyond 1975.
So we're supposed to believe that after the hospital scene(s), Snake gets a proper robotic arm, and starts up a new outfit called "Diamond Dogs" right? Bowie's Diamond Dogs album was released in.... 1974.
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