Isn't this pretty much how the PS4 handles memory, with things being deleted as required?
I wonder what their plan is for external HDD support. We'll need control over what moves where at that point.
So how do game saves work offline?
I'm sure once external support is patched in, we will be able to manage storage as usual
its manual as far as I can tell.
Cached/installed game data will stay on the hard drive until the user deletes it. Cerny said that there had been some internal discussions at Sony about having the PS4 auto-delete installed data from games that players hadn't used in a while. They decided against it, figuring that gamers would never want to feel "blindsided" and would prefer to make their data management decisions manually. Probably a good choice!
it'll download okay, but you'll probably find say battlefield 4 has been deleted if its the game you've played least.Well that's just awesome. So I won't know until I have enough space for a game until it's too late and I've run out.
Well done, Microsoft.
Giant Bomb was complaining about the same thing. I don't think the PS4 is any better, either.
its manual as far as I can tell.
Looks pretty manual to me:
With PS4, you know exactly how much space something is taking up and how much space you have left. This is not the same in the least.
Oh I didn't realize it wouldn't even let you do that on Xbox One.Yes it is. You can see EXACTLY how much space is taken up and by what.
Yes it is. You can see EXACTLY how much space is taken up and by what.
Umm... ps4Still though, neither system lets you dig deep and see each individual item and put game saves onto a USB drive or anything like that. Right?
So if you have a data cap you may be screwed right? It does automatic downloads of stuff and you can't really determine what stays or goes.
wait so does automatic mean it could in theory delete older game data to free up space?
Didn't the original X-Box do this?
According to MS via Giantbomb, it's implied that there no need to upgrade your HDD when it will just auto delete your least used/oldest game.
They are going one step further than Apple.
Oh I didn't realize it wouldn't even let you do that on Xbox One.
Still though, neither system lets you dig deep and see each individual item and put game saves onto a USB drive or anything like that. Right?
Are game saves offloaded to the cloud and removed from the console automatically? If so, that's terrifying.
The PS4 lets you transfer save files (Application Data) to USB.Oh I didn't realize it wouldn't even let you do that on Xbox One.
Still though, neither system lets you dig deep and see each individual item and put game saves onto a USB drive or anything like that. Right?
... that's a little hyperbolic really don't you think? ... how will people sleep at night!
I get that some people can't figure out how to delete things to make space on their hard drive and need the system to do it for them, but why not have a way to turn on manual storage management for those that want it? Hopefully it'll get added in at some point in the future.
theres nothing like this on xbox one at all?
Yeah. At first I was on board with the idea. But then I realized that that might include digital games too. And then I also realized, that the oldest game I haven't played isn't necessarily the last game I want to play. There may or may not be incoming rage over this but I just hope you can still have local saves.
I was stunned when I heard about this on the Bombcast. Jeff Gerstmann said that it automatically deleted the game that you had played the least (or gone the longest since playing) in whatever time frame, and that it first deleted only enough so that it was still playable, but not fully installed.
It sounds like it could wreck havoc with bandwidth caps, and I was totally with Vinny when he brought up the example of buying DLC for a favorite game months after release, only to have to wait to redownload the base game again because you played stuff in the meantime.
Losing saves through no interference of your own?
How the fuck wouldn't that be a goddamn huge problem.
Saved games and settings information is retrieved from the cloud for any game as its being reinstalled.
Why would you lose them? They are backed up to the cloud. That is the very opposite of losing them.
Why would you lose them? They are backed up to the cloud. That is the very opposite of losing them.