LOL, every mention of Scorpio with you!
Anyway, bring it on AMD, let's get competitive again.
If any of you guys expect better than Haswell clock for clock, you're setting yourself up for disappointment.
I'm looking forward to affordable 8C16T 😃
Well Jim left very early, and AMD designers completed it.That might actually be possible, Jim Keller worked on Zen. He's the guy responsible for the Athlon64 and the competition between AMD and Intel during that time frame.
He left once the design aspect of development ended. He finished his part and moved on. He was a contract worker.Well Jim left very early, and AMD designers completed it.
Just be realistic, Intel has insanely huge R&D and tailored foundry advantage. Don't expect AMD to match Intel on IPC or clock. Affordable multi-core is what we're looking forward to 😚
If we take AMD's official statement at face value, it seems the design was completed by AMD's team after he left. Maybe he did the overall picture and difficult parts, who knows.He left once the design aspect of development ended. He finished his part and moved on. He was a contract worker.
If they can match last gen i5 I'll be impressed, it would also be a massive leap from where they are with the FX.
Getting to i5 level would be the best thing ever and surely push console gaming forward next gen. Jaguars are not even as strong as i3's
Jaguar wasn't even intended to be in that range, they were intended to compete with Atom. Console makers went with that because they valued low CPU power consumption over performance, and Jaguar was probably very cheap to license given AMD's situation.
Well Jim left very early, and AMD designers completed it.
Just be realistic, Intel has insanely huge R&D and tailored foundry advantage. Don't expect AMD to match Intel on IPC or clock. Affordable multi-core is what we're looking forward to 😚
Jaguar wasn't even intended to be in that range, they were intended to compete with Atom. Console makers went with that because they valued low CPU power consumption over performance, and Jaguar was probably very cheap to license given AMD's situation.
AMD made a statement some time ago that the remaining team completed the design after he left.What leads you to believe he left early?
AMD made a statement some time ago that the remaining team completed the design after he left.
Regardless Jim is not going beat Intel's army of brains.
And more reading that was interesting here.As a result while the loss of Keller is certainly a significant one for AMD, Keller's architecture work on Zen should already be complete, which is likely why we are seeing him leave at this time. And as a quick aside to give you an idea of CPU development timelines, by comparison, Jim's work on K8 was done over 3 years before K8 shipped in 2003. Consequently the biggest loss for AMD here shouldn't be Zen-related, but rather that they won't have Keller's talents to call upon for further refinements of Zen or for a post-Zen architecture.
200w cpu confirmed? 😋
Be cautious as Fury was once called an overclocker's dream.200w cpu confirmed? 😋
What would be the most ideal situation? 7700K performance for $100 less?
For what it's worth that might finally be a little out of date. Zen will probably offer more cores/threads in some price points than Intel, but ultimately the architecture is focused more on IPC and single threaded performance like Intel's CPUs. Which is a good thing.
That might actually be possible, Jim Keller worked on Zen. He's the guy responsible for the Athlon64 and the competition between AMD and Intel during that time frame.
Ok, gonna be realistic with my prediction. Zen is gonna be a beast in the mid and low end, not gonna touch Intel on high and enthusiast market.
Its cuz i gotta deflate expectations that might get overblownTrust me, i did it prior to Pro as well.
200w cpu confirmed? 😋
Smells more like damage control to be honest.
I personally think that they will go with excavator cores for Scorpio.
I thought it was clear in my post that I was joking with him??Ironic post.
Well, 8 core CPUs from Intel also have lower clocks than their quad core chips. You can't really cheat physics if you aim for that amount of cores and performance on par (hopefully) with Intel's oferring. I bet AMDs quad Zen will have higher clock that 8 core one.The one thing that has me slightly worried is the "3.4 GHz+" part. Makes me wonder if these will come with fairly low stock clocks, and you will have to overclock it yourself to reach performance that's competitive with Intel.
Oh well, just a few more hours until we know more. . .
Show starts in few minutes?
in few minutesShow starts in few minutes?
Will wait for independent benchmarks.
Please be good
Please be good
Please be good
Can't afford Intel's 8 core 2011-3, doubt amd's cpu will be much cheaper due to their current financial situation but I will make do with ivy bridge ipc and some relatively competitive pricing.
Smells more like damage control to be honest.
I personally think that they will go with excavator cores for Scorpio.
Will wait for independent benchmarks.
as everyone should. But this is only a reveal.
Not really.Today will decides AMD's future.