I believe the adapter is "okay", but you don't get any FFB at all. I think it *may* get converted from the vibration signal sent to a controller, but don't quote me on that. I know for sure you don't get anything remotely close to "real" FFB like with the wireless MS wheel or a Fanatec.
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NextGen Wheels peripherals PS4 and Xbox One Thread: NeoGaf Wheel Club Updates in OP
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houroftower
Member
If no ffb = no buy for me. I'll just drive on PC or PS3 sims and skip PS4.
So, the situation still grim?
I just need to know whether there's a possibility of existing hardware working with the new stuff.
Amar said something about a bloke who can adapt pedals and shifters to different wheels..
Is there a chance that my CSP and shifter could work on the Thrustmaster or Mad Catz?
If not, I have to get rid of the Fanatec setup and use funds towards a new wheel...
I just need to know whether there's a possibility of existing hardware working with the new stuff.
Amar said something about a bloke who can adapt pedals and shifters to different wheels..
Is there a chance that my CSP and shifter could work on the Thrustmaster or Mad Catz?
If not, I have to get rid of the Fanatec setup and use funds towards a new wheel...
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Apparently the CSP's are not straight forward when it comes to that.
It's not impossible though.
Keep an eye on mrbasher.
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/th8rs-dsd-etc-to-fanatec-adapter-basherboards-sfa1.266271/
It's not impossible though.
Keep an eye on mrbasher.
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/th8rs-dsd-etc-to-fanatec-adapter-basherboards-sfa1.266271/
Wax Free Vanilla
Member
How can Sony fuck up this bad? These publishers aren't going to waste money to license the ffb and whatever else for a small fraction of users.
Logitech and Fanatec support for PS4 is a pipedream, the PS4 is done to me, fuck Sony, and fuck Microsoft!
Logitech and Fanatec support for PS4 is a pipedream, the PS4 is done to me, fuck Sony, and fuck Microsoft!
Ted
Member
That's not good news.
I guess we all just have to wait and see then. It will be a shame though if the only options on the wheel market are really cheap "toy" wheels or really high end enthusiast grade wheels with no middle ground.
Xbox One Force Feedback Racing Wheel won't be released by Christmas, Mad Catz confirms.
So, seems like there won't be any racing wheel for the Xbox One at launch. It's going to be hard to go back to a controller for Forza.
So, seems like there won't be any racing wheel for the Xbox One at launch. It's going to be hard to go back to a controller for Forza.
SEGAvangelist
Member
Oh poop. MS better allow current wheels to work, then.
drugstore_cowboy
Member
There's still the Thrustmaster though?
Big Takeover
Member
Amazon US says Dec 9th, but I see Amazon UK says Nov 27th. Either way, hope your controller skills are at least semi-sharp.
drugstore_cowboy
Member
They are most certainly are not.
Nooooo
Nooooo
flyinpiranha
Member
It's the first thing I will be doing on launch day. Without wheel support I will skip racing games altogether for the consoles and just race on PC and most likely buy a cheap PS3 with GT6 and that will be that. It's a bullshit money-grab that only affects the people who have already dedicated A LOT of money into this part of the hobby already.
What a huge letdown.
mr stroke
Member
Amazon is listing it for a Dec release, But a GS employee told me I would get it on Nov 22 if I pre-ordered it. So who knows? Even Thrustmaster doesn't or won't tell me.
I emailed Thrustmaster about a solid release date and PC compatibility and there response was-
"Sorry we can not give out any info at this time" LOL
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Cheers for that.
I was going to try and get one from Amazon but not 100% convinced of build quality and so on.
GAME is doing it for £350 in store. Reckon I might go and pre-order it there asap.
DirtyLarry
Member
This thread makes me sad. Very sad.
Well, there is always Gran Turismo 6, so at least I will have one game to use my wheel on.
Well, there is always Gran Turismo 6, so at least I will have one game to use my wheel on.
mr stroke
Member
I am curious about Thrustamasters quality too
Never owned one of there wheels before and $400 is a lot to drop on wheel with out a clutch and any knowledge if it will work on PC as well?
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Not aware of HID functionality as of yet so compatibility may not be simple, the old MS Wireless Xbox wheel was XID only and iirc although it worked on PC the FFB drivers were never released even though they were planned.
zephervack
Member
So glad that gt6 is not a ps4 title, what's the point of playing racing sims with a controller?
Extremely sad the new consoles had to go on this direction, greed or technical limit?
Extremely sad the new consoles had to go on this direction, greed or technical limit?
TangoAlphaLima
Member
Greed. Absolutely greed.
Damn, my condolances. It is the betatest unir or new one? Sending for replacement?
drugstore_cowboy
Member
This is quite a common problem now isn't it?
Is Fanatec offering any kind of extended warranty on them if that's the case? From what I've read they are neither the greatest quality or expensive to replace.
My wheel is almost two years old now, I'm quite worried about it happening.
Is Fanatec offering any kind of extended warranty on them if that's the case? From what I've read they are neither the greatest quality or expensive to replace.
My wheel is almost two years old now, I'm quite worried about it happening.
This is my 3rd broken retail wheel. My beta unit also broke. Even scarier is that this wheel was replaced April 2nd of this year! It made it 7 months...
This incident has made me realize I have not gone a full year without my CSW breaking and needing a replacement.
I have been very tolerant of these issues, but to be honest my patience is starting to wear thin. If this last unit does not last at least 2 years I am going to permanently end my relationship with Fanatec. Either that, or they are going to have to make them in a country other than China.
EDIT: Just in time for GT6 as well!
drugstore_cowboy
Member
That's awful. Mine went back for a centreing issue but it was dealt with pretty well.
Considering the price I wonder why he cheapened out on something as crucial as the motors.
Considering the price I wonder why he cheapened out on something as crucial as the motors.
I think I would have been gone long ago, but Fanatec customer service has always been responsive to me. I always start and end my emails with German greeting/salutations and follow up with a phone call. That seems to get the ball rolling pretty quickly.
I may follow the guides on GTPlanet and replace the motors with custom ones and upgrade the belts while I am at it.
For that sort of price I would expect the build quality to be very good. I picked up a T500 RS for that price and it's an excellent wheel and really well built.
I've used the wheel for 300 hours in Project CARS alone, and the wheel is still going strong. (League Racing). Not to mention countless hours in iRacing.
The FFB is very good. I've had cheaper wheels in the past and they've all felt like toys in comparison.
Pedals are very solid and quite adjustable. I can't seem to find any decent images of the new wheels pedals though.
The only issue that seems to really common is problems with the fan. Sometimes it gets very loud and hot, but I've heard it's easy to replace with a better one. I doubt the new wheel will have a similar issue.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
I'm so glad now to have never upgraded to a Fanatec wheel. I'm mostly satisfied with the wheel and shifter, not with the pedals tho and I always wanted to see if there was a chance to use other (and better) units to replace G27's own pedals (especially breaking)... is there? I mean almost plug and play solution, cause if I need to spend money/time modding on top of buying new expensive pedals I'm not sure it'd be worth it.
If my G27 won't work with the PS4 and Gran Turismo 7 then I very much doubt I'll even bother to buy the game, that would be crazy if I think about it, but it's the same thing I did with Forza4 after I couldn't bare to use the fisher price MS wheel for another FM experience after the third game. Now that the xbone is out of my picture (I pray for my own sake that MS' console doesn't become yet again the shmups' platform of choice), GTurismo7 would be the only racing game I'd play on consoles, since I don't think anything else would skip a PC port (don't care to use a wheel for a 30fps racer like DriveClub honestly, I mean it'd be better but not pulling my hairs for it)... That would mean I'd really, really hope Project C.a.r.s. come out as an incredible full package rivaling GT7. But yeah, I'd hate since I've bought my G27 back in the day in preparation for GT5 and I also love using it for some arcade games (always pissed me off Outrun Online didn't support FFB).
Hope someone gets the ball rolling with Sony/Logitech support. What Microsoft is doing is despicable, their very expensive FM branded Fanatec came out what, two years ago? Way to leave customers in the dust, again.
I won"t have a problem in blasting Sony down a hell furnace if they do the same: With GT5 and GT6 supporting old PS2 USB wheels, GT6 coming out AFTER the PS4 and especially with GT5 having being sold since day1 with the Logitech GT as the official wheel of the game (at least before the T500 switcheroo I believe) they would deserve to be grilled HARD.
I know I wrote a papyr and few will bother to bear till the end of this post, but let's make some more noise people
If my G27 won't work with the PS4 and Gran Turismo 7 then I very much doubt I'll even bother to buy the game, that would be crazy if I think about it, but it's the same thing I did with Forza4 after I couldn't bare to use the fisher price MS wheel for another FM experience after the third game. Now that the xbone is out of my picture (I pray for my own sake that MS' console doesn't become yet again the shmups' platform of choice), GTurismo7 would be the only racing game I'd play on consoles, since I don't think anything else would skip a PC port (don't care to use a wheel for a 30fps racer like DriveClub honestly, I mean it'd be better but not pulling my hairs for it)... That would mean I'd really, really hope Project C.a.r.s. come out as an incredible full package rivaling GT7. But yeah, I'd hate since I've bought my G27 back in the day in preparation for GT5 and I also love using it for some arcade games (always pissed me off Outrun Online didn't support FFB).
Hope someone gets the ball rolling with Sony/Logitech support. What Microsoft is doing is despicable, their very expensive FM branded Fanatec came out what, two years ago? Way to leave customers in the dust, again.
I won"t have a problem in blasting Sony down a hell furnace if they do the same: With GT5 and GT6 supporting old PS2 USB wheels, GT6 coming out AFTER the PS4 and especially with GT5 having being sold since day1 with the Logitech GT as the official wheel of the game (at least before the T500 switcheroo I believe) they would deserve to be grilled HARD.
I know I wrote a papyr and few will bother to bear till the end of this post, but let's make some more noise people
flyinpiranha
Member
I'm pretty sure this was already known, but NFS Rivals (not sure if this is PS4 or everything?) has absolutely no wheel support at all:
It was in an announcement for PS4 NFS:R but I'm unsure if that answer was "in general".
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/11/04/need-for-speed-rivals-coming-to-ps4-on-november-15th/
No surprise really, pretty sure it was mentioned somewhere else but not sure.
This generation is starting off to be a really sad one for wheel enthusiasts. I don't think I'll be buying racing games this generation at all at this point. I'm not dumping another $600 for 1 game (GT7) as I already did that for two (Forza 4, GT5).
Will probably end up building a dedicated racing machine with the wheel setup for Project CARS whenever that comes out if worse comes to worse, so I'm not really going to 'stop racing' but I will on consoles.
It was in an announcement for PS4 NFS:R but I'm unsure if that answer was "in general".
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/11/04/need-for-speed-rivals-coming-to-ps4-on-november-15th/
No surprise really, pretty sure it was mentioned somewhere else but not sure.
This generation is starting off to be a really sad one for wheel enthusiasts. I don't think I'll be buying racing games this generation at all at this point. I'm not dumping another $600 for 1 game (GT7) as I already did that for two (Forza 4, GT5).
Will probably end up building a dedicated racing machine with the wheel setup for Project CARS whenever that comes out if worse comes to worse, so I'm not really going to 'stop racing' but I will on consoles.
I'm pretty sure this was already known, but NFS Rivals (not sure if this is PS4 or everything?) has absolutely no wheel support at all:
It was in an announcement for PS4 NFS:R but I'm unsure if that answer was "in general".
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/11/04/need-for-speed-rivals-coming-to-ps4-on-november-15th/
No surprise really, pretty sure it was mentioned somewhere else but not sure.
This generation is starting off to be a really sad one for wheel enthusiasts. I don't think I'll be buying racing games this generation at all at this point. I'm not dumping another $600 for 1 game (GT7) as I already did that for two (Forza 4, GT5).
Will probably end up building a dedicated racing machine with the wheel setup for Project CARS whenever that comes out if worse comes to worse, so I'm not really going to 'stop racing' but I will on consoles.
Hey ! I am Cassius_clay! Completely forgot that I asked that question ! ;-)
flyinpiranha
Member
Ha, small world.
I'm curious, so basically this is Sony just being greedy as fuck when it comes to wheel compatibility over USB correct? In the FAQ it states:
So if I'm reading this right, for example, the developer for Gran Turismo 7, NFS:Rivals, or DriveClub would have to PAY Sony to allow the usage of a wheel over USB? That's the only hurdle, correct? (outside of the actual programming for wheels)
I am just making sure I understand the "reason" we aren't seeing legacy support, and that's because Sony is forcing the developer to pay for the licensing to allow it? I'm assuming Fanatec/Logitech would need to create a driver schema too?
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Honestly this is more frustrating that the fucking Xbox situation if there's no technical reason the wheels cannot all be supported but may not be.
Not that I buy the Xbox excuses.
Not that I buy the Xbox excuses.
Well... that's not how i interpret it. What I understand is that there will be wheels that will be universally recognised (where devs will have almost nothing to do to use the wheel...): these will be the PS4 licensed wheels.
And then there will be the others (let's call them "OURS") that will need some efforts from the devs to make them compatible.
I feel like theorically, that means any USB wheel can be compatible with any game if the dev wants.
On PS3, it was like that iirc: my GT500 did not work on some games... though it was an official GT wheel...while my CSR works with more games.
So, if PD wants GT7 to work with every wheel on the planet, i think it's possible.
But I am not a tech guy, so maybe what i say makes no sense technically speaking...
Can someone correct me if i am wrong?
Neuromancer
Member
Anyone know if I can import the Thrustmaster T80 Drive Club Edition from anywhere on the internet and have it shipped to the US, and is it possible it wouldn't work on an NA system?
I'm pretty sure this was already known, but NFS Rivals (not sure if this is PS4 or everything?) has absolutely no wheel support at all:
It was in an announcement for PS4 NFS:R but I'm unsure if that answer was "in general".
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/11/04/need-for-speed-rivals-coming-to-ps4-on-november-15th/
No surprise really, pretty sure it was mentioned somewhere else but not sure.
This generation is starting off to be a really sad one for wheel enthusiasts. I don't think I'll be buying racing games this generation at all at this point. I'm not dumping another $600 for 1 game (GT7) as I already did that for two (Forza 4, GT5).
Will probably end up building a dedicated racing machine with the wheel setup for Project CARS whenever that comes out if worse comes to worse, so I'm not really going to 'stop racing' but I will on consoles.
WOW...if there wasn't reasons already to keep the o'l PS3 plugged in, there goes another one. GT6 it is then.
Fried Food
Banned
I'm pretty sure GT7 will have wheel support for most if not all the supported wheels in GT6. Polyphony cares enough to put in the extra work. I can even see Sony helping out with it since it's a first party game
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Why would you do that? That wheel has no force feedback support AT ALL. Just rumble effects.
Would never waste money on something like that.
I believe they will, my fear is mostly about FFB support, like PS2 USB wheels were supported but with no FFB on GT5. Something like that would honestly make no difference to me than no support at all simply because I wouldn't buy GT7 to play it like that
I just wish we could get an answer as straightforward as that out of Evo
It wouldn't do us any good, since they straight out said Rivals has no wheel support. We already know DC does, problem is what kind of support that is. They've been asked more specific questions and avoided answering, I believe someone quoted them saying it was up to Sony and the manufactures?
Neuromancer
Member
Well you tell me what to buy then, when Drive Club comes out. Without spending $500.
I'm pretty sure this was already known, but NFS Rivals (not sure if this is PS4 or everything?) has absolutely no wheel support at all:
It was in an announcement for PS4 NFS:R but I'm unsure if that answer was "in general".
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/11/04/need-for-speed-rivals-coming-to-ps4-on-november-15th/
No surprise really, pretty sure it was mentioned somewhere else but not sure.
This generation is starting off to be a really sad one for wheel enthusiasts. I don't think I'll be buying racing games this generation at all at this point. I'm not dumping another $600 for 1 game (GT7) as I already did that for two (Forza 4, GT5).
Will probably end up building a dedicated racing machine with the wheel setup for Project CARS whenever that comes out if worse comes to worse, so I'm not really going to 'stop racing' but I will on consoles.
To be fair, NFS HP and MW didn't support wheels on PS3 either, right? Just Shift did iirc.
Just tried my CSR and zero response form the console. Tried both PC and PS3 mode.
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Thinking of selling my CSR Elite now, I'm in the UK.
Any ideas where I'd get the best price?
I've sold on AVForums before, the low offers annoy me but it's an option.
Any ideas where I'd get the best price?
I've sold on AVForums before, the low offers annoy me but it's an option.