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Nikkei says Nintendo about to unveil its approach to mobile development [Update]
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TheGreatMightyPoo
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JetBlackPanda
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its actually pretty smart, a demo like Bravely Default that unlocks items for the full game coming 2014 on your 3DS.
I mean its gets them into the space while still supporting their own hardware.
I mean its gets them into the space while still supporting their own hardware.
I wouldn't. Because it isn't the industry. It's specifically Nintendo.
ScreenSplitter
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Oh my. The... what's that condiment? Goes well with vinegar? Well, oodles of it nonetheless.
Applause.
I wonder if their plan is to do something like what Square Enix is doing with the Dragon Quest Portal application, which you need to boot up in order to play Dragon Quest on your phone, and when you boot it up a "what's new" section appears showing all the latest news regarding Dragon Quest, as well as having direct purchase links to some of the other Dragon Quest they've released so far on the app store, like Dragon Quest VIII. Although Dragon Quest VIII is its own separate app, presumably some other DQ games will require the DQ Portal app to launch in the future.
Nintendo could release a "Nintendo Portal" app with mini games that unlocked or somehow interacted with full games on 3DS by unlocking things and such, and also use that to market their games.
A lot of GAF threads lately have been full of people who reply with a hasty and misinformed opinion, just for the sake of getting in the first page. They obviously don't bother reading the OP in full, even when it's not exactly a wall of text. This is one such thread.
I hope Nikkei is right about this. Then again, as mentioned in this thread, Reggie hinted at this before.
I just hope that they make good, high quality apps if they do. I doubt that they will.
I hope Nikkei is right about this. Then again, as mentioned in this thread, Reggie hinted at this before.
I just hope that they make good, high quality apps if they do. I doubt that they will.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
Because you can get adblock for rooted phones.
7DollarHagane
Banned
Sure - having an eshop that's a lot more palatable to the smartphone user used to low prices is smart as well.
Sony and Microsoft both have similar presences in the app store that basically advertise their systems and games. Why is nintendo different in that they're leaving all this money on the table and failing and making stupid decisions? Why is only Nintendo expected to shift heavily into mobile games?
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Basically.
And_Gignac
Member
At least they already have the advantage over Samgsung and Apple in resistance to accidental drops with that Nintendium formula.
Gaming news sites also still exist and they report on stuff revealed in Nintendo Directs. What is your point?
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Yep. It wouldn't be the first time.
Yeah, I think free demos on iOS could work well.
But the demos have to be strong.
nckillthegrimace
Member
They should get Arzest to lead the charge. They're quite accomplished at making complete trash.
Chinpoko_Master
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At the very least, I think Nintendo should put all of their Touch Generations games on mobile devices. The audience for those games has clearly shifted to those devices, and they don't have a real reason not to.
TheBaronOfNA
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And people that want to see trailers for Nintendo games are going to use You Tube App or the web browser in their phone/tablet.
BlitzEngineer
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She wouldn't. I wouldn't either. But there are no fucking games on it man. That's why I, as an enthusiast, cannot justify buying the console and why my sister, as a casual weekend warrior, will never hear about the console from me and consider buying one.
And the strength of the hardware matters not because it sells the system, but because it gets developers interested. If Nintendo is going to produce first party games at a snail's pace then there needs to be third parties to fill out the library in the interim, but those third parties have no motivation to look at the WiiU because it's underpowered and it's install base is shit. Thus there are no games for the thing thus I won't buy it and won't talk about it favorably ect. ect. ect.
But someone might stumble upon whatever shitty advert app they put out and that's gonna solve all these issues, because...we don't know what else to do.
God forbid we produce some games or cultivate some respectable third party relations.
BoboBrazil
Member
Gaming news sites will also post the videos that are going to be in this app. What's the point?
I still do not know (and I'm not sure if anybody does) if those brands are going to stand the tests of time. The industry is too young. I do know that they tend to hit big and pull in huge revenue and then fairly quickly, peak while the industry moves onto something else. Now, a lot of that is due to the mobile industry being so young and seeing so much growth.
I think certain genres from Nintendo could do very well in the mobile space and under the current restrictions to how games play. I don't think anybody will ever be able to get a decent platformer to work with touchbased controls that plays anything like that platformers I enjoy and grew up with. But, I think Nintendo would be able to create new games and brands that are built around the deficiencies of the mobile space. I think some of their brands would transition over very well. I just don't know if mobile gaming can support a premium price for a premium experience. I think the companies in that space have done a very good job trying to design games around getting money out of their audiences. I just don't like that business model.
Randolph Freelander
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Your first paragraph and second one are really butting heads.
You state that's where their consumer is. Why just advertise, why not sell? Unlike with cartoons in the 80s, it's asking those people to put down their devices that already play games and do it cheaply, as well as do hundreds of other things, to switch over to a uni-task device that only plays games and does it more expensively. It isn't happening. This approach to advertising would do little more than appease the already converted, you'd almost think they might as well advertise on Xbox Live and PSN. Heck, it might even have greater effect, since it's speaking to people already consuming software under Nintendo's desired business model.
JinjoUnchained
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Smart idea. Right now most of their potential customers are in the iOS ecosystem. The best way to reach that audience is to create limited content for that platform and give people just a little taste of that Nintendo magic. Just enough to make them want to eat the carrot, then yank it away and tell them that they can continue the experience if they get a 3DS/Wii U. Sounds bad when you put it that way, but is it really any different than feeding some free content to trap the player and then imposing micro transactions to continue the experience? They'd be using the App Store as an advertisement for their platforms.
I could see it working this way. Release a Super Mario 3D World app where you can play a couple short Captain Toad levels or, have the computer automatically play through a complete regular level and let the player control the GamePad touch screen functions. Use tutorials to show the controls, the cat suit in action, and 4 player co-op. Keep lowering and lowering that carrot until the demo stops and you are given a link to Nintendo's website where you can set up your own Miiverse account, get on their mailing lists, and see prices for the platform and the game.
I could see it working this way. Release a Super Mario 3D World app where you can play a couple short Captain Toad levels or, have the computer automatically play through a complete regular level and let the player control the GamePad touch screen functions. Use tutorials to show the controls, the cat suit in action, and 4 player co-op. Keep lowering and lowering that carrot until the demo stops and you are given a link to Nintendo's website where you can set up your own Miiverse account, get on their mailing lists, and see prices for the platform and the game.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
So does anyone want to point me to the actual Nikkei report because I'm searching for it and nothing is coming up? http://asia.nikkei.com/search/find?search_keyword=Nintendo
The "story" being reported doesn't exist?
Edit: got it http://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXNZO65962400Y4A120C1TJ0000/
The "story" being reported doesn't exist?
Edit: got it http://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXNZO65962400Y4A120C1TJ0000/
Exactly. I don't understand what Nintendo is trying to accomplish here.
ZombiePlatypus
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Nintendo games are made on hardware made from the ground-up to accommodate their games. They have full-feedback loop, and control the development, environment and quality from start to finish. If they made games on cellphones or other hardware, they just won't be Nintendo games, but will manage to cannibalize 3DS's (and WiiU's already struggling) market.
People that wanna play 1st-party Nintendo titles, should buy Nintendo hardware instead of demanding them to compromise their brand.
I don't think this invalides his thought though. It does seem like it's a one-and-done proposition but that the smart devs use models of ongoing support. Would Clash of Clans 2 be as successful? I don't know, mobile hasn't been around that long to cycle through a long-lived support game like that. Angry Birds is perhaps the only one I can think of that seems to have had successful, distinct sequels and it's a character based merchandising cow.
You do realise that if you just ignore the Directs, their news comes the same way as all other game news...press releases, exclusives on sites etc. Nintendo Direct just gives an extra avenue to give the news. It in no way removes the others.
I honestly don't get people who think the Directs insulate them. It adds to things, it doesn't take away. All conventional methods of disseminating information are still there and still fully utilised.
That's what I'd like to know.
I agree this isn't great, but look at Wii U sales and it kind of seems like they are making games right now that lots of people don't want to play.
GiantEnemyGoomba
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Exactly. It's amazing how much people are reaching when it's said right there in the OP.
7DollarHagane
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The difference is if a real "nintendo direct" app is at the top of the free apps on the app store and people just download it out of curiosity, that's real, excellent marketing and placement for their brands. Their free advertising app would surely be more popular than free games made for smartphones.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
Because Metroid will suddenly change the tide? Let's look at sales for the three Prime games:
Metroid Prime: 2 million
Metroid Prime 2: 800,000
Metroid Prime 3: 1.31 million
Yeah, a new Metroid game will totally change the Wii U's direction.
Playable demos sound awful. It would basically amount to a proof of concept showing why the 'real thing' isn't needed. Or to look at it from the opposite perspective, show that real hardware controls are absolutely needed, and make Nintendo's games seem awful to mobile onlookers. Maybe they could be hyper-selective about which games get demos and make it kinda work though. Still, I can't think of many existing titles that don't rely on physical controls or the precision of a stylus.
I hope the part about video content is right though. I'd love for a Nintendo Direct/news/trailer App to get released in a few days, along with an accompanying Direct to kick things off.
I hope the part about video content is right though. I'd love for a Nintendo Direct/news/trailer App to get released in a few days, along with an accompanying Direct to kick things off.
Dark Octave
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They're using smartphones to advertise their shit. How is that hard to understand?
Inferno313
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I got Sonic 2 on my iPhone and it's pretty fantastic.
Probably not up yet.
Wow at this chart though:
http://asia.nikkei.com/magazine/201...tendo-failing-to-adjust-to-the-smartphone-age
BoboBrazil
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Like when they decided not to do a press conference at e3 last year that all major media attends and has more eyeballs on the gaming industry than at any other time of the year and instead do a direct?
I think that says more about the Wii U than the games themselves. I think the Wii built so much of their audience up on the casual gamers that are gone. THey are gone for Nintendo and gone for Microsoft and Sony.
Mario Kart Wii sold over 30 million copies. People want to play the brands. They just don't want the Wii U.