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My only issue with unlocks is if they charge real money to unlock them and make it a grind for everyone else. Season passes are bad enough, I want to entire game and the goal posts keep moving in regards to that.
My only issue with unlocks is if they charge real money to unlock them and make it a grind for everyone else. Season passes are bad enough, I want to entire game and the goal posts keep moving in regards to that.
That's not true at all. Most AAA games these days have XP systems with stuff to unlock. It's part of AAA checklist/comittee design, which is why some of us finds it boring, wasteful and woefully inappropriate for many different gameplay types. It makes everything seem like the same crappy grind.
Want me to be stuck for hours at your game? How about designing it so well that you don't need a grinding system to keep people occupied. In the old days it was about great level design, these days it's about grinding, drops and loot.. It's a horrible trend that needs to stop.
Both Halo 5 and Gears 4 had terrible showings at E3. None of the games look exciting. Sony had the same issue with Killzone Shadow Fall. Luckily Sony has done a better job with Uncharted 4 with their E3 showing. Microsoft need to up their game with their old IPs or make a new exciting looking IP like Sony are doing with Horizon.
Both Halo 5 and Gears 4 had terrible showings at E3. None of the games look exciting. Sony had the same issue with Killzone Shadow Fall. Luckily Sony has done a better job with Uncharted 4 with their E3 showing. Microsoft need to up their game with their old IPs or make a new exciting looking IP like Sony are doing with Horizon.
Halo 5's demo wasn't very good, but I have no doubt the game will be fine.
Gears...
Man, I never thought I would see a weak Gears showing at E3. They are normally incredibly strong in that regard. Who knows how the game will turn out but that demo was just not very interesting.
My only issue with unlocks is if they charge real money to unlock them and make it a grind for everyone else. Season passes are bad enough, I want to entire game and the goal posts keep moving in regards to that.
But it's the money they get from this which is why they're making all the dlc and maps free. I mean don't you think it's better that moving forward all arena/btb maps will be free, rather than the fact you can't have so and so gun in Warzone?
This way, not only do you have carrot/stick mechanics to keep the Warzone players hooked in, but you're literally funding free maps for Arena and breakout, even using some of the money to pay for HCS payouts etc.
My only issue with unlocks is if they charge real money to unlock them and make it a grind for everyone else. Season passes are bad enough, I want to entire game and the goal posts keep moving in regards to that.
But it's the money they get from this which is why they're making all the dlc and maps free. I mean don't you think it's better that moving forward all arena/btb maps will be free, rather than the fact you can't have so and so gun in Warzone?
This way, not only do you have carrot/stick mechanics to keep the Warzone players hooked in, but you're literally funding free maps for Arena and breakout, even using some of the money to pay for HCS payouts etc.
Its kind of a win win for players and 343i. Plus they will be releasing newer ones as time goes on. Like new armor visors weapon skins ect.
Has 343i directly stated the free maps are only possible because of microtransactions?It benefits everyone in the end because we get a ton of free maps and no segregated player bases. Everyone will be on the same playing field. The req packs aren't p2w either, as you can't know what will be in them as you either purchase or unlock, and their uses are limited to Warzone anyway; cosmetic stuff across the board.
Maybe but I would rather them release it and try to patch split screen later.Reading the DF article, I wonder if this game could use a delay. Spring has become a huge release window these days. I would gladly wait with all the shooters coming out this fall for an optimized H5 with SS.
Kind of like they just rushed out MCC and fix it later?Maybe but I would rather them release it and try to patch split screen later.
I don't think Microsoft is cool with missing out on Fall though. That's the biggest money making time in the games business.
Games can always be improved with time. Should Battlefront be delayed when it's clearly being rushed out to meet a deadline and launch before the movie? Nah.Kind of like they just rushed out MCC and fix it later?
If the game can be improved over the course of the next few months until March, they should let them do it
Its not purely cosmetic stuff. There will be buffed/legendary versions of weapons.It benefits everyone in the end because we get a ton of free maps and no segregated player bases. Everyone will be on the same playing field. The req packs aren't p2w either, as you can't know what will be in them as you either purchase or unlock, and their uses are limited to Warzone anyway; cosmetic stuff across the board.
MS via GamesRadar said:"Players earn REQ Points after each multiplayer match in Arena and Warzone and redeem the points to acquire REQ Packs. There are 3 tiers of base REQ packs that can be purchased: Gold, Silver and Bronze, and requisition cards are categorized into five tiers of rarity: Common, Uncommon, Rare, Super Rare and Legendary.
Each level of REQ Pack determines the quality of the REQs inside; for example, a Gold REQ Pack has a chance of including Legendary requisitions, while a Bronze REQ Pack does not. Higher leveled REQ Packs require more REQ Points.
Regarding the rarity of REQs themselves, players will receive Common REQs the most often and Legendary REQs the least often. One example of what players will earn are weapons – the Needler is considered an Uncommon weapon, whereas the Sniper Rifle is considered a Rare weapon. An upgraded Sniper Rifle variant would be considered Super Rare, and a Mythic Weapon, such as the Prophet’s Bane, is considered a Legendary REQ."
I'vew wondered the same thing. I haven't seen 343 say that in particular, only that some proceeds of those Req Pack purchases go towards the prize pools in Halo e-sports events.Has 343i directly stated the free maps are only possible because of microtransactions?
Has 343i directly stated the free maps are only possible because of microtransactions?
On the splitscreen side of things, that's a huge bummer to me. Hopefully it's patched in soon after launch.
Well doesn't matter if they sell a million dollars worth of DBut it's the money they get from this which is why they're making all the dlc and maps free. I mean don't you think it's better that moving forward all arena/btb maps will be free, rather than the fact you can't have so and so gun in Warzone?
This way, not only do you have carrot/stick mechanics to keep the Warzone players hooked in, but you're literally funding free maps for Arena and breakout, even using some of the money to pay for HCS payouts etc.
Its not purely cosmetic stuff. There will be buffed/legendary versions of weapons.
For Warzone. Not arena.
True. Never meant to suggest otherwise.For Warzone. Not arena.
Halo campaign demo was disappointing
This.
Even from a narrative viewpoint I don't find theirstory interesting, at all."hunt down Master Chief as Spartan Locke"
IMO they did a terrible job selling their game. I'm someone who loved the campaign for Halo 4 as well, I just think none of the leaked story elements or gameplay reveal screamed "buy an Xbox One!", which I'm on the fence about at this point.
Play the game and youll earn everything on the disc.
I'm going to pretend I didn't read that
Nope, can't..
Cause
Why not just give me all the Pokémon from the start of the game
Why not just unlock all the abilities in mass effect 3 as soon as I take the disc out.
Don't ever play battlefield, you'll feel like you wasted your $60
'Why can't I just play the final boss level right at the start of the game, I paid for the disc, the content is mine'.
How did the thread shift from split screen discussion to complaining about customization and unlocking system? Since Halo 3 you've had to unlock stuff in Halo regarding player customization. The new REQ system is part of the Warzone experience. This is the carrot/stick game play mechanic that millions love and it's what has kept Destiny going. It wasn't the best in ME3 since you barely unlocked the stuff you wanted.
By keeping such unlocks behind progression and time spent, they are essentially guaranteeing you'd play the game to unlock it.
How willfully ignorant are you three exactly?
Having to unlock MP assets through meaningless "play this much" locked gates, is not only what Halo has NEVER been about, but shouldn't be anywhere near a MP game to begin with.
Halo 3, Reach and Halo 4 would beg to differ.
What you call 'play this much' I call 'be good at this particular skill/class/or gun enough to prove you earned the right to use the next one'How willfully ignorant are you three exactly?
Having to unlock MP assets through meaningless "play this much" locked gates, is not only what Halo has NEVER been about, but shouldn't be anywhere near a MP game to begin with.
This thread isn't even about split screen anymore.
Halo threads are the best threads.
How willfully ignorant are you three exactly?
Having to unlock MP assets through meaningless "play this much" locked gates, is not only what Halo has NEVER been about, but shouldn't be anywhere near a MP game to begin with.
For Warzone. Not arena.
Do they really need to?
The entire reason the maps always cost money is because they cost money to make. That hasn't changed, it's just that now they can get that extra money from elsewhere.
How willfully ignorant are you three exactly?
Having to unlock MP assets through meaningless "play this much" locked gates, is not only what Halo has NEVER been about, but shouldn't be anywhere near a MP game to begin with.
This is acceptable to you, their big new game mode coming before BTB has weapons with buffs behind paywalls?
There's nothing behind a paywall, everything is unlockable through normal means of play. If you feel the need for REQ packs because you're either not very good at the game or just like spending money frivolously, you can buy some. There is nothing there that says you have to purchase a single one.
Unless they make it extremely lame to unlock stuff.
this.
the legendary weapons, the prophet's bane sword, spnkr rocket launcher, etc, will be in arena, but as a map spawned weapon drop. you won't be able to use req weapons (aside from skins) in anything but arena.
This is acceptable to you, their big new game mode coming before BTB has weapons with buffs behind paywalls?
Sick of all the "Rare!", "Legendary!" loot grinding... its a terrible trend in AAA games
That doesn't sound like a good investment at all..Yep.
It's not a paywall- it's entirely optional and you still unlock the same types of req packs through playing Warzone and Arena. Buying packs is still subject to RNG, same as unlocking them. You may buy a few packs to increase your chances of good items, but there's no guarantee you'll get what you want or will find useful to your playstyle in Warzone.
And yeah I'm fine with their release plans. A few weeks post launch will give me plenty of time to chew through the campaign on normal and then on legendary, and also time to dig into Warzone and some arena. There's going to be a lot of things to do as it is...
That doesn't sound like a good investment at all..
A) chances increased to get better items if you spend money
B) no garuntee
That means your chances when not paying money is super rare, and that sucks to hear for a new interesting game mode
The fact that they are making a mainline game where you play as someone other than the Chief after the negative reaction that got in Halo 2 is weird enough, but the fact that they demoed a Locke section instead of a Chief section at E3 is just straight bizarre.
This is acceptable to you, their big new game mode coming before BTB has weapons with buffs behind paywalls?
The fact that they are making a mainline game where you play as someone other than the Chief after the negative reaction that got in Halo 2 is weird enough, but the fact that they demoed a Locke section instead of a Chief section at E3 is just straight bizarre.
Playing as the Arbiter was one of the best things about Halo 2... This is considered bad as well?
Yes; I honestly get the impression they released footage & awaited the usual "hyped!" comments to ensue... yet the silence, even indifference, from fans (online) was somewhat deafening.
It's like the developers sat in a room during pre-production & agreed upon the following course of action:"yeah, fans want to play as Chief, but let's give them Locke & make them hunt down Chief instead, great idea!"
As I said, I'm not particularly excited by the prospect of playing through that storyline.
Both Halo 5 and Gears 4 had terrible showings at E3. None of the games look exciting. Sony had the same issue with Killzone Shadow Fall. Luckily Sony has done a better job with Uncharted 4 with their E3 showing. Microsoft need to up their game with their old IPs or make a new exciting looking IP like Sony are doing with Horizon.
I'm still looking forward to playing through the campaign, but mainly because of the story beats presented in the excellent 'Hunt the truth' audio campaign...
But the E3 demonstration certainly took the wind out of the sales for the reasons you mentioned, but also because of the focus on new gameplay that aren't actually exciting...
Showcasing reviving, squad commands, scanning and scripted setpeices paled in comparison to dual welding, boarding, vehicular mayhem in the H2 reveal.
They've truly forgotten how to excite people...