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Thats strange, maybe current XB1 install base is more "casually" getting their Fifa and COD every year while PS4 install base (obviously bigger) has more "hardcore" gamers buying more RPGs and other not so popular genres.

Aren't there Xbox One bundles for CoD and Fifa, which count as a sale for the game? I don't remember seeing a Dragon Age bundle for any console, so the most popular console wins for that game.

 

[Mpl90]

Based on WOW changes in this week's PR and BrunoMB's math

Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare - 107,474 / 1,081,634 (-41%)
FIFA 15 - 83,346 / 1,966,097 (+25%)

 

[Guymelef]

FIFA and COD both higher on XB1.
also XB1 has 10 titles in individual chart vs 9 for PS4

PS4 has 5 titles in top 10, XBO 4.

 

[Xando]

GTA V split:

PS4: 58%
XB1: 41%
360: 1%

http://www.videogamer.com/ps4/gta_5/news/gta_5_is_now_the_uks_best-selling_game_of_all_time.html

 

[Quentyn]

Splits for GTA V

Sales for the upgraded sandbox were split 58 per cent on PS4 and 41 per cent on Xbox One. The remaining 1 per cent were on Xbox 360.

http://www.videogamer.com/ps4/gta_5...gta_5_is_the_uks_no_1_ahead_of_far_cry_4.html

And Far Cry 4

Sales were highest on PS4 with Sony's console taking 49 per cent of Far Cry 4's week one sales. 30 per cent were sold on Xbox One and 11 per cent on Xbox 360. 6 per cent, meanwhile, were on PS3.

http://www.videogamer.com/ps4/far_c...astest-selling_game_in_the_series_so_far.html

 

[Miles Quaritch]

GTA V split:

PS4: 58%
XB1: 41%
360: 1%

http://www.videogamer.com/ps4/gta_5/news/gta_5_is_now_the_uks_best-selling_game_of_all_time.html

Bundling it so heavily on X1 seems to have paid off.

Could you even buy an X1 console without getting GTA5 with it?

Sales were highest on PS4 with Sony's console taking 49 per cent of Far Cry 4's week one sales. 30 per cent were sold on Xbox One and 11 per cent on Xbox 360. 6 per cent, meanwhile, were on PS3.

That's about right. Splits for DA?

 

[Nightengale]

Bundling it so heavily on X1 seems to have paid off.

Could you even buy an X1 console without getting GTA5 with it?

Not on Amazon.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Not on Amazon.

Wow, you're right.

That's strange. I could have sworn they had the Sunset/GTA5 bundle. Maybe I'm confusing them for a different retailer...

 

[madmackem]

Bundling it so heavily on X1 seems to have paid off.

Could you even buy an X1 console without getting GTA5 with it?



That's about right. Splits for DA?

yeah split seems right for bigger install base of ps4.

 

[ThoughtsOfSpeaking]

Not on Amazon.

Wow, you're right.

That's strange. I could have sworn they had the Sunset/GTA5 bundle. Maybe I'm confusing them for a different retailer...

Yeah. For the past few weeks amazon really have dropped the ball in regards to bundles. For both consoles, their offers have been pretty poor.

Its no wonder neither seems to be selling amazingly in the hourly charts.

 

[Triggerhappytel]

I thought little big planet was pretty popular?

It is a fairly popular series relatively speaking, but doesn't seem like one that will sell massive amounts on launch like most big 'triple-A' franchises. I expect it will be slower and steadier than most of its peers.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

yeah split seems right for bigger install base of ps4.

I imagine the FC4 PS4 bundle helped to make the split wider.

Still, that is about what I'd expect considering the PS4 should be around 1.5m to the recently achieved 1m on X1.

Yeah. For the past few weeks amazon really have dropped the ball in regards to bundles. For both consoles, their offers have been pretty poor.

Its no wonder neither seems to be selling amazingly in the hourly charts.

GAME literally came out of nowhere in offering some of the most competitive bundles, which is really surprising as you'd expect them to be the worst...

Looks like Amazon have an X1 bundle coming up via their black Friday week.

 

[Xando]

It is a fairly popular series relatively speaking, but doesn't seem like one that will sell massive amounts on launch like most big 'triple-A' franchises. I expect it will be slower and steadier than most of its peers.

I expect LBP to have a big christmas. Its probably the ultimate game i would buy for my kids.

 

[Cthulhu_Steev]

It is a fairly popular series relatively speaking, but doesn't seem like one that will sell massive amounts on launch like most big 'triple-A' franchises. I expect it will be slower and steadier than most of its peers.

I'm sure it will do better when it's actually released for sale.

 

[Guymelef]

Edit: late.

 

[Hasney]

I expect LBP to have a big christmas. Its probably the ultimate game i would buy for my kids.

Probably be in a couple of bundles by then too, no doubt.

It'll have legs, but I'd be pleasantly surprised if it did gangbusters in next weeks chart.

 

[Xater]

Hehehe.

Seriously though, I wonder why those games specifically have such a wide difference in sales. TEW picked up slightly after a couple of weeks on X1 (I think that was mainly thanks to bundling), but it's really strange how other games are pretty close and then you have such a wide gap for the most random of games...

I'm going to say that's the difference of the bigger install base. If the game is not as mainstream as a COD the difference will be bigger due to the bigger base.

 

[ThoughtsOfSpeaking]

It is a fairly popular series relatively speaking, but doesn't seem like one that will sell massive amounts on launch like most big 'triple-A' franchises. I expect it will be slower and steadier than most of its peers.

I expect LBP to have a big christmas. Its probably the ultimate game i would buy for my kids.

LBP3 isnt released here yet. 28th of Nov.

Not to mention it has a disgusting price. 47 quid? Piss off.

 

[kadotsu]

I expect LBP to have a big christmas. Its probably the ultimate game i would buy for my kids.

As much as I love LBP it is a bundle fodder game. I expect a LBP bundle once Sony drops the price for the first time. The game will still make money through DLC. It'll probably barely break the top 10 next week.

 

[dolemite]

It is a fairly popular series relatively speaking, but doesn't seem like one that will sell massive amounts on launch like most big 'triple-A' franchises. I expect it will be slower and steadier than most of its peers.

Should've been a great Jan/Feb release. Right now Sony is sending the game to die against a line-up of multiplat blockbusters.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

I'm going to say that's the difference of the bigger install base. If the game is not as mainstream as a COD the difference will be bigger due to the bigger base.

Yeah, I expect that's probably it.

Still, I'm pretty sure it was primarily marketed on X1, so it's surprising to see such a big gap between the two. The FC4 split makes sense when you factor in the heavy PS4 marketing and bundling, but DA seems to have failed to make any kind of impact on X1.

 

[gtj1092]

Can someone in the UK explain how retailers make money if they bundle so many games. Are the games just so overpriced that even giving the discount with the bundles they make a profit.

 

[ThoughtsOfSpeaking]

Can someone in the UK explain how retailers make money if they bundle so many games. Are the games just so overpriced that even giving the discount with the bundles they make a profit.

Id imagine they get a kickback from the console manufacturer for certain amount of consoles sold and it covers any loss in revenue. Remember stores make very little profit from games anyway.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Can someone in the UK explain how retailers make money if they bundle so many games. Are the games just so overpriced that even giving the discount with the bundles they make a profit.

Some of the really insane bundles are probably manufacturer subsidized and others are to stay competitive against supermarkets who use consoles/games as loss leaders to get people into the stores.

 

[gtj1092]

Thanks for the replies. I can see if they were bundling old games but brand new ones just seems crazy when people are going to buy them first week anyway. We never get deals like that in the US and when we do its one day a year and called Black Friday lol.

You're talking about soft bundles that the retailer has put together (rather than the hard bundles like the XBO Titanfall pack)?

In the soft bundle cases, I've done deals in the past to sell in the game to retailer at a lower price in order to be part of those bundles. Retailer won't be making a loss on the software, it's generally publisher funded and those unit sales can help boost the overall chart position

Ok that makes sense. Yeah was talking about retailer bundles. Does selling the software at a lower price to the retailer for the bundles get you more sales overall or do you offer the deals to compete with other distributers?

 

[WeylandxYutani]

Can someone in the UK explain how retailers make money if they bundle so many games. Are the games just so overpriced that even giving the discount with the bundles they make a profit.

You're talking about soft bundles that the retailer has put together (rather than the hard bundles like the XBO Titanfall pack)?

In the soft bundle cases, I've done deals in the past to sell in the game to retailer at a lower price in order to be part of those bundles. Retailer won't be making a loss on the software, it's generally publisher funded and those unit sales can help boost the overall chart position

 

[Nightengale]

Yeah, I expect that's probably it.

Still, I'm pretty sure it was primarily marketed on X1, so it's surprising to see such a big gap between the two. The FC4 split makes sense when you factor in the heavy PS4 marketing and bundling, but DA seems to have failed to make any kind of impact on X1.

Maybe I'm completely fucking wrong, but DA:I felt a lot like Shadow of Mordor, in the sense that both games had exclusive marketing, but were pretty low-key ( like their B-tier efforts ) and thus made no real platform shifts.

I mean, compared to say CoD or ACU, DAI marketing on the Xbox-pushing front felt tamer.

 

[Quentyn]

Totally forgot that Watch Dogs came out for the Wii U last week. Checked the Wii U chart and it is on the 14th place, one place behind FIFA 13.

 

[unapersson]

Should've been a great Jan/Feb release. Right now Sony is sending the game to die against a line-up of multiplat blockbusters.

What's wrong with having a good kid friendly game on the run up to xmas? Jan/Feb would miss that completely.

 

[Xando]

Yeah, I expect that's probably it.

Still, I'm pretty sure it was primarily marketed on X1, so it's surprising to see such a big gap between the two. The FC4 split makes sense when you factor in the heavy PS4 marketing and bundling, but DA seems to have failed to make any kind of impact on X1.

Would be interested to see splits with PC digital. If i remember right PC sales were quit high (XB1 level) for Ubisoft.

edit:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=136630045&postcount=5

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Maybe I'm completely fucking wrong, but DA:I felt a lot like Shadow of Mordor, in the sense that both games had exclusive marketing, but were pretty low-key ( like their B-tier efforts ) and thus made no real platform shifts.

I mean, compared to say CoD or ACU, DAI marketing on the Xbox-pushing front felt tamer.

I don't think that's wrong, I'd agree with it.

I only really saw a couple of ads compared to the dozens for Sunset, Horizon 2, MCC, CoD, Ass Creed.

Would be interested to see splits with PC digital. If i remember right PC sales were quit high (XB1 level) for Ubisoft.

That's damn impressive.

 

[dolemite]

Totally forgot that Watch Dogs came out for the Wii U last week. Checked the Wii U chart and it is on the 14th place, one place behind FIFA 13.

“Damn them [Ubisoft], damn them all to hell!”

 

[Prine]

The top selling FIFA and CoD titles are now on XBone? The dude/bros have made their decision then, heh.

360 is still fairly strong in UK, if they're making the transition to Xbox 1 then that would explain this.

 

[kadotsu]

360 is still fairly strong in UK, if they're making the transition to Xbox 1 then that would explain this.

I think in this case it is that those two games are in the most attractive bundles.

 

[dead monkey uk]

I wonder what the splits are like on Dragon Age, PS4 is at 5 while the Xbox One version is at 14.

 

[Xater]

Totally forgot that Watch Dogs came out for the Wii U last week. Checked the Wii U chart and it is on the 14th place, one place behind FIFA 13.

Shocking!

 

[Percy]

I wonder what the splits are like on Dragon Age, PS4 is at 5 while the Xbox One version is at 14.

Really? That's a pretty major difference from last gen where Bioware games were always significantly loaded in favour of Xbox.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

I wonder what the splits are like on Dragon Age, PS4 is at 5 while the Xbox One version is at 14.

I'd probably put it at 65/35.

Shocking!

I'd actually forgotten WDU was out this week. It's had no retail from what I've noticed. Has anyone seen a copy at retail?

 

[gundamkyoukai]

It going to be harder to get a proper split software wise when so many games bundle.

 

[Nightengale]

Really? That's a pretty major difference from last gen where Bioware games were always significantly loaded in favour of Xbox.

Don't know about Dragon Age, but Mass Effect naturally leaned in favour of Xbox.

After all, ME1 was exclusive for a hell of a long time, and ME2 was timed-exclusive.

 

[ThoughtsOfSpeaking]

It going to be harder to get a proper split software wise when so many games bundle.

Next week will be far more telling. Hopefully we get splits.

 

[Katana_Strikes]

Not sure why MS took on DA. They had so many game to promote with exclusive advertising anyways that it looked as though DA took a back seat. And it's showed.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Next week will be far more telling. Hopefully we get splits.

Bundles are only going to increase as we get closer to Christmas.

We'll have to wait for the new year for things to normalize.

 

[Kikujiro]

Really? That's a pretty major difference from last gen where Bioware games were always significantly loaded in favour of Xbox.

Bioware games have been associated with the Microsoft console since the first XBox, so it's a pretty big difference. Is the game part of the EA digital program?

 

[Kyoufu]

Bioware games have been associated with the Microsoft console since the first XBox, so it's a pretty big difference. Is the game part of the EA digital program?

The first 6 hours are available on EA Access.

 

[ThoughtsOfSpeaking]

Not sure why MS took on DA. They had so many game to promote with exclusive advertising anyways that it looked as though DA took a back seat. And it's showed.

Part of a larger EA deal, which outside of Titanfall hasnt produced one resounding success so far.

 

[John Bender]

We are all blaming the XBone exclusives for the hard falls on the sales charts while PS4 has.... zero exclusive titles in the top 40. Now that's ironic

Now tell us how you really feel.

 

[Xando]

Not sure why MS took on DA. They had so many game to promote with exclusive advertising anyways that it looked as though DA took a back seat. And it's showed.

I guess it would have been even worse if they didn't have the deal, wouldn't it?

 

[Percy]

Don't know about Dragon Age, but Mass Effect naturally leaned in favour of Xbox.

After all, ME1 was exclusive for a hell of a long time, and ME2 was timed-exclusive.

Dragon Age definitely did also. I admit I didn't really pay as close attention to the second game's sales, but I can definitely remember Origins being particularly heavily skewed towards 360 when it first came out.

Though I can vaguely recall there was some fuck up with the initial PS3 release or something... maybe that could have been a factor there, I dunno... Inquisition is definitely the first time a Bioware title on consoles hasn't seen the Xbox version come out on top.

 

[Nightengale]

Not sure why MS took on DA. They had so many game to promote with exclusive advertising anyways that it looked as though DA took a back seat. And it's showed.

Witcher 3 and Evolve ( both also MS marketing partners ) were also originally supposed to be released this fall.

MS took on a lot this fall.