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Any news if bluetooth headsets works?
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Any news if bluetooth headsets works?
Yeah, I can actually play an intensive 3D game, while also having internet sharing on and in use, and using bluetooth for audio, and have the phone increase in charge.
Something definitely seems funny that such a drastic difference is occurring on a much weaker charging output between my iPhone and the Switch, where my iPhone charge increases on 5V / 1A, and the Switch does diddly squat with much high charging output. It's not like the Switch's battery is that much bigger like I said, in fact, it's smaller than the iPad which I can also charge while in heavy use with a 5V / 2A power bank just fine, which is still less than the Switch gets, and the iPad battery is a good 50% bigger (in mAh) than the Switch.
Allow me to copypaste here my post about USB A powerbanks possibly working
Okay so I may sound super dumb but here it goes anyway
This is the Switch's AC adapter
It appears to have two modes. It would make sense to assume that the 5V - 1.5A is for charging in portable mode and the 15V - 2.6 A would be for the dock, right?
This is my powerbank
If we asume the official AC adapter charges the console at 5V - 1.5 A, shouldn't this powerbank be enough to charge while playing in portable mode because it's 5V - 2.4A? With a good USB A-C cable.
Only output 2 has Quickcharge btw so even if that's dangerous I just have to use output 1
That should work, and yes, you want a double ended USB-C cable.
So even the output from the power bank needs to be USB C?
Yeah that's right, if a 5V-3A USB-C powerbank couldn't charge the switch while playing then the officially licensed car charger couldn't either. It wouldn't make any sense.Don't they have an official car charger that outputs 5V-3A? Even if it doesn't charge while playing, hopefully I can at least double the consoles life by slowing its drain.
Basically, if anyone is considering buying a charger or power bank for Switch, they should either buy a USB-C model which is USB-PD compatible and supplies 15V at at least 2.6A, or they should wait until after launch when other chargers can be tested fully.
Yep. The one I have outputs 5V-2.4A for the two USB A slots and the USB C slot outputs at 5V-3A. Though you need a dual ended USB C cable.
Do USB-C 15V-2.6A powerbanks even exist? Seems weird they would mention that USB powerbanks are compatible when a 5V-3A powerbank is incapable of charging the switch while playing.
I still think the Switch charges at 5V-1.5A in portable mode and 15V-2.6A docked.
Yeah, I don't think there's a power bank which has a 15V/2.6A. It's pretty much 5V/2.4A. I hope we would have a good amount of test on this before I commit on buying.
It does look like going through the comments in that Ars article a few PD USB Type C chargers are mentioned, like this one from RavPower, that's basically the same size as the earlier one I mentioned, just slightly more mAh, and supports much higher output: Type-C Output: DC 5V/3A,9V/2A,15V/2A,20V/1.5A; and this one from Razer, which is smaller sized, only 12,800 mAh, but supports higher output as well: USB Type-C | 5V 3A / 9V 3A / 12V 3A / 15V 3A / 20V 2.25A.
Other than those I don't see any others, oh there was a Dell power bank mentioned as well, but then those three would be about it at the moment.
Got the Anker Powercore+ 20100. Hopefully this can charge the switch while I play. I'd like to have 12+ hours of Zelda on the go instead of almost three. Else if this will be used when I'm low when traveling.
It feels comfortable enough for me when I have it it my pocket. Is it too noticeable? This is coming from a 5 ft 7 guy wearing slim fit jeans.
Got the Anker Powercore+ 20100. Hopefully this can charge the switch while I play. I'd like to have 12+ hours of Zelda on the go instead of almost three. Else if this will be used when I'm low when traveling.
But that would in practice mean that you can't use a power bank, so there are no (edit: actually, I saw below that some exist, but it would still exclude the vast majority) power banks that output at such a massive power level. The Switch presentation did mention the compatibility with portable batteries (at the 9:46 mark), so I can hardly imagine the Switch not functioning well with convential power outputs of 5V/2-2.4A (which are pretty much standard for power banks I believe).
Edit: we'll see, I guess. I have my 5V/2A power bank lying around with a spare usb-c cable, so I will just test its charging capability at launch.
I linked to two earlier:
The RAVPower does 9V / 2A and then 15V / 2A, so I'm not sure how that'd translate.
The Razer actually does 12V / 3A (and 15V / 3A), which sounds like it'd be fully covered for perfect charging, but it's said to cost $150, where the PD USB Type C RAVPower one is only $60, maybe even less if you catch it on a sale.
I'm still hoping it can charge at an acceptable rate with USB C on a normal 5V / 3A power bank, instead of needing a 12V / 2.6A or whatever to charge. Even if it doesn't hold a charge, but instead drains really, really slowly, that's good enough. Still, I'd like to think that if 5V / 1A is enough for an iPhone 7+ and 5V / 2A is enough for an iPad to charge while in heavy use, then 5V / 3A will hopefully be good enough for the Switch.
So the Aukey 30,000 mAh is on sale and boasts a USB-C port. Is it worth returning my AllPowers power bank and getting this one instead for faster charging times and not having to purchase a USB-USB C cable for said bank?
USB has extra stuff like USB-PD (Power delivery)Got this.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01G1XH46M/?tag=neogaf0e-20
That should work right? Are USB-C to USB-C powerbanks inherently superior. They are almost double the price when compared to USB-A to USB-C.
I misspoke. I meant actually charge faster than it drains while playing.I mean there's a video in the OP showing that yes, battery packs work with the switch (while on / playing). The question is how fast it'll charge at this point, not if they work.
I'd wait just a day or so, and when people will test their 5V/2A power Banks we will know whether they function well enough for charging or whether you really need a larger power output.Any recommendations for slightly smaller powerbanks? The RavPower one I keep seeing recommended seems great and all but I'd rather have something smaller to just give the Switch/my phone a bit of a boost on a long journey, not necessarily recharge both/either of them to full.
I misspoke. I meant actually charge faster than it drains while playing.
If a charger can't charge it fast enough so it doesn't stop the Switch from draining all the way before the portable battery drains, it feels like the size of the Powerbanks might not matter much unless you are trying to charge it to full when it's off, and that defeats the purpose for people hoping to get a powerbank specifically to extend their play time by significant amounts rather than slightly slowing down the drain.
These are the possible outcomes I gather, from worst to best:
1 - Switch cannot increase charge by anything while in use, and charges very slowly regardless of what is used while turned off. You are required to use the Base to get any sort of decent charging.
2 - Only sources capable of delivering 15V / 2.6A will increase the charge while in use (official wall charger, PD-USB Type C power banks). Everything else does not help while in use.
3 - Same as 2, but now USB-C 5V / 3A devices are a bit more effective and reduce power drain in use to a very slow amount (~10% an hour vs 30% an hour unplugged).
4 - Switch increases charge slowly while in use with USB-C 5V / 3A devices. USB-A power banks do not help while in use.
5 - Same as 4, but now USB-A power banks are a bit more effective and reduce power drain in use to a very slow amount (~10% an hour vs 30% an hour unplugged).
6 - Same as 4, but now Switch increases charge slowly while in use with most USB-A 5V / 2A devices.
It seems we're in the 2 through 5 range currently (1 is just ridiculous imo), with 6 being possible, but unknown because of the Ars preview. Most likely it will be 4 or 5, though 2 and 3 are also still possible.
Yes, that would probably give you an extra 8 hours of playtime. Basically 11 if you add the switch batterySo what's the final word on this ?
I have 23000 powerbank with standard USB 2.4A port, is it enough ? Will it charge while playing ? How long will it take to charge ? Will it only slow down ?
It is enough, I have a powerbank with 5 V / 2.4 A as well. And yes, it will charge, at around 8 percentage points per hour. So slow, but it will charge.I have 23000 powerbank with standard USB 2.4A port, is it enough ? Will it charge while playing ? How long will it take to charge ? Will it only slow down ?
My non scientific tests also confirmed that a 13000mAh Anker Astro E4 battery pack from 2013, used with the USB-A to USB-C cable that came with the pro controller, charged and the battery beat the drain while playing Zelda portable.
Anker: started at 75%, played Zelda for ten minutes while charging. Was at 80% after.
Also for the charger that comes with the 2015 12" Retina MacBook:
Sleep charge: started at 50%, plugged in to charge in sleep for 30 minutes. Got up to 75%. Need to test while playing but presumably similar to any other wall charger of reasonably capacity.
My non scientific tests also confirmed that a 13000mAh Anker Astro E4 battery pack from 2013, used with the USB-A to USB-C cable that came with the pro controller, charged and the battery beat the drain while playing Zelda portable.
Anker: started at 75%, played Zelda for ten minutes while charging. Was at 80% after.
Also for the charger that comes with the 2015 12" Retina MacBook:
Sleep charge: started at 50%, plugged in to charge in sleep for 30 minutes. Got up to 75%. Need to test while playing but presumably similar to any other wall charger of reasonably capacity.
Has anyone tried any laptop battery packs like the Dell Companion?
It will work if it does not employee Qualcomm Quick Charge. I use a 5V/2.1A power bank that recharges the Switch very slowly when playing Zelda.So I have to 8100mAh batteries that are listed as 5V 2.1A. Will this work? Any risk of damaging the system?
Edit: the battery has two USB ports rated at 2.1A. It's meant to charge an iPad and iphone.
It will work if it does not employee Qualcomm Quick Charge. I use a 5V/2.1A power bank that recharges the Switch very slowly when playing Zelda.
It is a proprietary charging method that has weak compatibility with many devices, including Switch. It should say on the power bank itself or on the packaging whether it uses it: if it say doesn't say anything about it, it most likely doesn't use it. Note that it is not damaging for the system at 5V, it just charges very slowly if the system doesn't support it (at a rate of 5V/0.5A). Just plug it in and see if it works well, it won't do any harm to your Switch.Dumb question, what's Qualcomm Quick Charge? I think may battery is a Duracell Powerbank (got two on meh.com last year).
This makes me glad that I bought a Macbook lol I can charge my every new device (phone, Switch, etc.) with its charger