DannyDanger
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I just watched some gameplay..
This doesnt look as bad as ppl have been saying
This doesnt look as bad as ppl have been saying
It's not just one outlet, and it's not like Nintendo Life has been flip flopping or whatever. It's a 2 part video series on the good and bad of the game.5 Good Things About Devil's Third:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPyfwIBpCT8&feature=youtu.be
--fun gameplay
--good gameplay balance that's tough but fair
--good boss fights
oh god what a disaster. Notice how a ton of outlets have the game right now but aren't saying very much? And nintendolife hopped immediately on the negativity bandwagon, but is now flip-flopping?
Maybe wait until all the cards are in until you melt down about the game, instead of listening to a few vague previews, early footage, and screenshots of a low poly car. Unless you have a disease where your opinions can't age past early, incomplete impressions or something.
Knowing that this is an actual car had made me feel much better
(It's an aircraft support vehicle)
(It's an aircraft support vehicle)
It's not just one outlet, and it's not like Nintendo Life has been flip flopping or whatever. It's a 2 part video series on the good and bad of the game.
The footage isn't early either, it's the retail build of the game
That's not fair, actually. I wasn't presenting evidence the game was good, I was just saying wait until we get actual complete information, since this site started out calling it shit, which is what most people here are basing their opinion on, and is now doing a 180 on that.
Eurogamer said:Going from those first few hours, then, Devil's Third is undoubtedly a bad game. It pushes beyond that, even, to be a truly atrocious one, one that now teeters on the edge of becoming a glorious car crash you can't help but stop and stare at. I'm amazed that Nintendo has backed this mess (and there are rumours that it's already getting cold feet overseas), but also astonished and slightly grateful that games like this still exist.
This is just revisionist nonsense by someone inexplicably desperate to defend a title that is being trashed essentially everywhere. A multitude of severely negative previews of the final version have come out.
Eurogamer
Nintendolife
Videogamer
Nintendo World Report
I can list a zillion sites for you if you like. Almost every single site that has played the final build has eviscerated the product in their final previews. Literally any positive final preview is the extreme exception at this point. That's just the facts of life, and it's something you need to deal with.
Nobody has to pretend there's a good chance this game is anything but abject garbage to appease you.
Knowing that this is an actual car had made me feel much better
(It's an aircraft support vehicle)
Knowing that this is an actual car had made me feel much better
(It's an aircraft support vehicle)
I thought people focusing on that one part was absurd to begin with but man, the backfire is glorious.
Heh, previews are the new reviews.
I thought people focusing on that one part was absurd to begin with but man, the backfire is glorious.
Not really, the textures on it still look like complete shit.
That's still gotta be an unfixed LOD bug. I don't think they ran out of money to the point where they can't fix that up.
That's what I meant by my comment. They're only called previews because of the embargo.Previews are basically glorified advertisements half the time. When previews are this negative for a final build, there's only one conclusion to draw.
That's what I meant by my comment. They're only called previews because of the embargo.
This is just revisionist nonsense by someone inexplicably desperate to defend a title that is being trashed essentially everywhere. A multitude of severely negative previews of the final version have come out.
Eurogamer
Nintendolife
Videogamer
Nintendo World Report
I can list a zillion sites for you if you like. Almost every single site that has played the final build has eviscerated the product in their final previews. Literally any positive final preview is the extreme exception at this point. That's just the facts of life, and it's something you need to deal with.
Nobody has to pretend there's a good chance this game is anything but abject garbage to appease you.
Yeah, so inexplicably desper---
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=172159670&postcount=123
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=172184338&postcount=211
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=172188482&postcount=224
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=172230649&postcount=305
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=172322506&postcount=349
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=171953102&postcount=288
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=171956206&postcount=309
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=172011008&postcount=506
...and i got bored of searching after that. I don't think I've expressed any interest in it outside of it being a curiosity. I've said about 50 times i'm not hopeful for it being good. I was just saying there that we don't have all the info in yet. With these kinds of action games, lots of different variables are at play. It's easy to shit on the N64 car that you see on your playthrough. I'd like to see gameplay picked apart, myself. Not just "LEL IT'S A BUTTON MASHER" from some douche.
5 Good Things About Devil's Third:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPyf...ature=youtu.be
--fun gameplay
--good gameplay balance that's tough but fair
--good boss fights
oh god what a disaster. Notice how a ton of outlets have the game right now but aren't saying very much? And nintendolife hopped immediately on the negativity bandwagon, but is now flip-flopping?
but thanks for randomly jumping in a couple weeks into this discussion and acting like you know my position though. Please keep shitting on people who aren't just right in lock step with everyone else, it's wonderful for discussion. You don't seem like you're just picking a fight or anything.
This is you just a page ago. Because, ya know, we can read:
That's why I said you were inexplicably trying to defend the game - as in, it's not explainable by anything that makes sense. Because your defense was "Nintendolife hopped on the negative bandwagon and is flip-flopping" and a lot of obvious subtext where you're trying to imply that outlets have the final game and now suddenly like it which is why they're being quiet. But the reality is every fucking person on this green Earth is shitting on the game because it's an abominable piece of garbage.
Most of the time, you'd be right - you know, previews are previews, and hey you never know how a game will turn out. But this time you're going around scolding people for making conclusions about the game, and you know what? They're right. These are expensive products. This is a game that has had its final build previews across the net, and everyone is taking a steaming dump on its chest. You'd have to want to shovel your cash directly into a furnace to even spend one second defending its merits or trying to tell people to "wait and see." They did wait and see - everyone said it's shit in the final build previews. In previews! In reviews, it's gonna score like 1.0 if historical precedence is anything to go by.
Because Nintendolife is not flip flopping due to some sudden Devil's Third quality. Everyone still thinks it's shit. So I don't know what point you were actually trying to make, except to inexplicably defend a game for no reason at all. There's being fair minded, and then there's being absurd for no reason.
Everyone has a right to shit on the game as it stands now. The vast, vast, vast, vast, vast majority of people who have spent time with the final game have laid out all very similar reasons for why the game is a disaster.
So, I dunno, maybe stop policing people for them acknowledging the simple truth the game is garbage?
Please. If you think me attacking your ridiculous position is "shitting on you", then you take your positions on videogames way too personally and that's something you have to deal with.
Your position is fucking ridiculous. If you don't want people calling out your arguments, you shouldn't make them.
Waiting for Q4 to release this game seems a such a bad business decision, the game is already a total trainwreck...waiting on it instead of grabbing potentially interested people asap is weird....
I've not read all the thread but is it possible that NOA really picked up the publishing and localization duties just recently after fans complained that they were passing on such a gem thinking they knew better (lol)?
That would explain why they need a few months to localize it and can't release it before fall.
umm, with all this projection, it seems like something other than video games is wrong here, so I'm just not gonna engage this mess further lol
Lol could've sworn Emily Rodgers tweeted out saying Xseed was gonna publish in NA
But now her Twitter is private.
They game is done and localized, we have no clue why NOA is sitting on it
Knowing that this is an actual car had made me feel much better
(It's an aircraft support vehicle)
That is crazy....if they think this is gonna sell more during the holiday period than as a summer release...
Lol could've sworn Emily Rodgers tweeted out saying Xseed was gonna publish in NA
But now her Twitter is private.
You don't need to engage, but please don't invent fabricated bullshit like "projection" (what am I projecting exactly? It doesn't even make sense in the context of what I said) to justify you bowing out. You don't want to engage because you don't want to debate the points or you don't actually have an argument. It's OK to admit in either case, I'm not your patsy for your inability to defend your nonsense position.
Now the question is, will console and PC version have shared multiplayer? I mean if PC version has mouse support, then..
Knowing that this is an actual car had made me feel much better
(It's an aircraft support vehicle)
I asked earlier, but no one really responded, but who is this Emily Rodgers? I was under the impression she was just a blogger who posted news and speculated on it, but people seem to be acting as if she's someone with actual insider information. Not trying to take a dig at her at all, I'm legitmately asking here, because I honestly don't think I'd even heard her name until she started posting stuff in relation to Devil's Third, and some seem to take her word as gospel or something.
I'm still not sure if I believe the XSeed thing was ever real.
Nobody, huh? Well, okay then.
Nobody, huh? Well, okay then.
Why is her twitter restricted? I hope not because of particularly one of her articles. Oh well, jholmes seems to have answered it. Thanks, jeffers.Well she was never really taken too seriously until she posted her article on Iwata that criticized him and how he was running Nintendo, this was mid-2013 iirc. A bunch of people on GAF and even Michael Pachter endorsed the article and as a result she became taken more seriously.
Why is her twitter restricted? I hope not because of particularly one of her articles. Oh well, jholmes seems to have answered it.
Argument? You mean the one you want to have. And right, I'm not engaging because A) you seem like a mixture of nuts, angry, and not too bright;
and B) because it's your word vs. mine on a game we both haven't played and only have some previews to cite. How hard is that to figure out? I've already acknowledged there are bad previews. I pointed out that there's a good one worth considering as well. You're putting shitloads of words in my mouth and seem to be losing your shit about things you've invented in your head-- i.e. projecting something, who knows what.
Thanks for bringing the weird to the thread, bud. Keep debating video games like we're in the goddamned united nations, it makes the board entertaining.
but if you need to feel like a man today, then here you go: you win the thing. you typed a longer, angrier post. congrats.