he forgot also
flash memory for fast loading
fast switching between more than 2 games/apps (im wrong saying are 5?)
and you can merge multiple records of the same videogame....os the time limit isnt an issue
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PS4 UI demo at Hong Kong event
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he forgot also
flash memory for fast loading
fast switching between more than 2 games/apps (im wrong saying are 5?)
and you can merge multiple records of the same videogame....os the time limit isnt an issue
You're talking about features in the OS, not the UI.
Yet you think you're qualified to talk about it?
So it's a subjective opinion that you don't like it aesthetically
callahan09
Neo Member
I liked the XMB because it was simplistic and easy to remember how to navigate to anything I wanted to get to. This looks like it retains that simplicity, but has a little less basic of an appearance, which is pretty nice. It is a bit sluggish loading the data in some instances, but I'm just hoping that's a result of this being in-game, as opposed to just at the system dashboard without the game running in the background. I know that the in-game XMB on PS3 runs insanely sluggishly compared to the dashboard XMB when not in-game. If this is how the in-game "XMB" (whatever it's called now) runs, I'm pretty happy with it.
Another armchair expert acting like graphics = UI.
callahan09
Neo Member
The new Apple UI does look nicer than it used to look, but on my Iphone 4s it runs so sluggishly now that I can't wait til I can upgrade. In this particular instance, I take speed and snappiness over appearance any day. Now, that said, I see no reason Sony couldn't keep the speed up and make a more interesting visual UI, but whatever. If it works, is easy to navigate, and is fast, then I don't care what it looks like.
Well, let me ask you a question: Have you changed the wallpaper of your pc, or are you perhaps still looking at some generic green rolling hills?
Personally, I spend virtually no time without maximized applications taking up all my screen real estate, so the actual wallpaper gets next to no screen time. Despite this, something in my nature compels me to, perhaps irrationally, immediately change the wallpaper and theme on any new hardware I acquire.
For me, it's actually not about subjective color and graphical preferences as much as it is about a sense of ownership and personalization. It's just something that makes your piece of hardware feel more familiar and comfortable, an electronic "home away from home" if you will.
BlastProcessing
Member
I don't understand. Chromium and Android's interfaces aren't made for TV at all. Porting over those would be a disaster and if you are going to have to create a interface from scratch, why not start with a more robust foundation, in this case FreeBSD?
Good design isn't about how something looks, it's how it works. A consoles UI needs to be fast and logical. The PS3's XMB was fast, but certain parts weren't logical. I still have problems finding things in the settings sometimes. Everything I have seen from PS4 tells me they are taking a step in the right direction.
Also, information density isn't the end all be all of good design. The sparseness of some of the parts of the PS4 UI is quite intentional. Clarity can remove a lot of user frustration and make a UI much more inviting.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
The only thing I don't like about this UI is the new wave animation. It just doesn't look as good as the XMB wave. At least not in any of these offscreen videos. Hell, you can see the XMB wave looks better from that static image posted above, it's that great of a design.
Is there a way to change the blue color to something else?
Is there a way to change the blue color to something else?
And my answer is, "no". My PC has some geometric design from when I went from Windows 8 to 8.1 and I didn't change it before I updated. I spend all my time with windows maximized since I want to make what I consider to be the best use of my screen size.
I get the ownership thing, I just don't think it's worth getting out the pitchforks for (by some people). I'll feel the sense of ownership of my PS4 when I look at my MasterCard bill and know that it's my money I earned at my job that paid for it.
good design is about also at how it look you talking about interface design ergonomy....and also this having submenus ....dosnt help a lots the human memory ..(that is one of the most important things in the ergonomy of a ui)
I would not assume PS4's multitasking is limited to one game + one app. Vita supports 6 open apps and I'd reckon on something similar or more from PS4.
so you can switch between more games and apps? really?! this is new to me but cool if true
GrizzleBoy
Banned
They haven't shown any different though and at this stage its seeming that what we've seen is what we're getting.
If there was any chance of something the PS4 could do to either match or beat XB1, we'd have seen a million articles and threads on it.
For all we know, the internet browser could be the only "app" (is it even an app in the same sense that a Netflix app is?) that can run concurrently (since its made by the people who built the OS), hence it being the only thing we've seen run concurrently.
I really hate Metro but the conversational voice commands of the Xbone are awesome. Other than that I don't think the UI is very friendly. I'm on the side of those that love the minimalist design of the PS DM. I fully expect some level of user customization once the machine is launched but thus far the I like the 3 layer design of the UI even tho the middle layer looks sparse. However, less is more and as your collection gets larger I fully expect that you will be better able to find your stuff on the PS4 thru controller navigation than you would on the Xbone.
Right now I think PS DM is the better UI for controller based navigation and Xbone UI is better with voice commands.
Right now I think PS DM is the better UI for controller based navigation and Xbone UI is better with voice commands.
i can understand this if the machine can play ONLY games....if not is just an excuse
Fahrenheit
Banned
Anyone a little worried about how long it toke to load things in?
That's cool, I can respect the consistency of your argument and actions. I'm just trying to explain where some of the disappointment regarding the lack of personalization is coming from.
Now, this issue obviously doesn't even come close to changing any purchasing plans, but I would honestly feel a bit let down if this doesn't get patched in somewhere down the line.
why is a better ui for controller based navigation!?
entremet
Member
Sure, but this is a discussion on what people think about the UI.
somesayyea
Member
Right there with you...love a good clean, minimalist look
On Vita? You can have a game + 5 apps open. Obviously you don't have voice recognition on Vita, so switching is as 'instant' as pressing the home button and swiping to another open app.
Maybe on PS4 you'll be able to jump to another open app with voice recog ala X1, we'll see. On PS4, unlike Vita, it seems it'll automatically jump to the last used app when you hit the home button, which saves a step if you just want to flick between the game and that last app.
Ludicrous Speed
Banned
The PS4 is so powerful though. It's not like the PS4 couldn't have a similar UI to the Xbox One and still not be speedy and snappy. The Xbox One is so much weaker but it's UI is slick and fast. No excuses for minimalist UI for faster performance!
Nightengale
Member
That's strictly your assumption.
You do realise that aside from the one-time jab made by Adam Boyes at the Brazil event, and some social media people posting images ( that quickly gets removed anyway ), Sony had spoken zilch about power comparison or resolution differences, even though there were a million opportunities for them to weigh in and shame the Xbox in power difference.
It's always been MS who are defensive on the power difference. We've got comments from Spencer, Whitten, Penello, etc. No official Sony rep actually came out to say anything on it.
isnt minimalistic at all eh..just telling u...
is this minimalistic
or this?
i think that jus tppl have confused idea about the design
Lol.
Well im sure when Shu got up on stage at gamescom it seemed much faster.
Maybe the 1.50FW update will speed things up
HawksWinStanley
Member
This looks like an intern put it together. It's pretty disappointing but not horrible. If they were going for the minimalist approach then they missed the mark, this just looks sterile and reminds me of the generic screensaver I used on my PC back in the late 90s.
That's exactly what 98% of GAF has been doing w/r/t next-gen consoles since E3.
What else does it do?
(At the moment)
streaming/browsing/music/socials/videocalls/mediaplayer/tv
Yeah, it's not a point to live or die over. Sony seems fairly responsive these days so if enough people want this, they'll likely add that in. Obviously they have to be very selective of their initial priorities for launch but who knows what else they'll add once the big features are all in place.
Gintoki313
Banned
Doesn't look all that great, but at least it looks easy to navigate.
The only thing I can say I liked was the trophies appearing at the top when selected. That's about it.
The only thing I can say I liked was the trophies appearing at the top when selected. That's about it.
TheCanisDirus
Member
The XMB is better as a controller based UI because of the layout. Fundamentally it is a horizontal main x-axis containing major categories with vertical y-axis containing the minor categories. It's simple and very intuitive. Most PS3 users have committed every important area/app to muscle memory as someone said earlier.
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Windows media center it reminds me of.
ahah what is this? pls
damn really seem an ps4 ui screenshot
fuzzyreactor
Banned
What exactly is the snap feature?
Mistwalker
Member
Definitely a bit bland, especially compared to the XBox One's UI, but I'm happy with simple and functional.
I also don't mind the blue color they chose as the default background, but I will be very disappointed if the ability to customize it isn't patched in down the line.
I also don't mind the blue color they chose as the default background, but I will be very disappointed if the ability to customize it isn't patched in down the line.
Nonsense. If you think the part of suspend/resume that's hard is the UI, that makes it hard to take anything else you have to say on the subject seriously.
Design is part taste, part functionality. I work every day with world-class designers and this looks pretty well thought out and functional. It's not unnecessarily flashy and does a good job of letting you move through various levels of detail. I'm looking forward to hands-on time but I'm optimistic so far. As for the aesthetics? It fits in with the brand they're establishing for the PS4, which will be pretty immediately recognizable. So I think it will appeal to those who find the console attractive in the first place.
You can only do two games and those games have to be digital titles.
TheCanisDirus
Member
isnt minimalistic at all eh..just telling u...
is this minimalistic
or this?
i think that jus tppl have confused idea about the design
Design can be personal. I have some professional and personal design experience (never worked in the industry) and yes... i personally see this as minimalist. There is a great balance of used to un-used space (white space or air) and the font fits well with the weight of the lining. The background is muted and there are nice simple gradients that blend areas well.
Liberty4all
Banned
Exactly. That's what I liked so much about the PS3 ... the UI wasn't an ad filled convoluted mess like what the 360 became.
Simple, clean, easy to navigate .... I like the PS4 UI that I'm seeing so far.
one of the must be digital
but u can have also apps in background other than that two games
ahah what is this? pls
damn really seem an ps4 ui screenshot
its Windows Vista Media Center, Its the inspiration for the PS4 UI lol
The basic dashboard navigation seems fairly similar to Xbox. Bunch of squares, main screen focuses on your recent activity (Xbox in a grid, PS4 in a line), each icon gives you some additional info on it when you highlight it.
I like the double tap of the PS button to flip between game and last app.
I like the double tap of the PS button to flip between game and last app.