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Russia begins Invasion of Ukraine

Liljagare

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Denmark completed the training of the first 50 Ukrainian specialists for the maintenance of F-16 fighters. This was announced by the commander of the Royal Danish Air Force, Major General Jan Dam. Most of the above-mentioned specialists have already returned to Ukraine and are waiting to receive the first fighters at the air bases. The next group of 50 Ukrainians will also start training soon.




Finland sends 24th military aid package to Ukraine. The €159 million package brings the value of Finland's defence aid to Ukraine to some 2.2 billion euros.

 

RJMacready73

Simps for Amouranth
I know this borders on Political but after that shitshow last night, Europe better brace itself to pick up the slack and get stuck in, it's a fucking shoein that orange fucking Putin puppet gets in and his first order of business will be to hand over Ukraine to his buddy, Christ almighty most powerful nation on earth can only be led by either a near dead corpse or a threat to humanity...
 

Bitmap Frogs

Mr. Community
I know this borders on Political but after that shitshow last night, Europe better brace itself to pick up the slack and get stuck in, it's a fucking shoein that orange fucking Putin puppet gets in and his first order of business will be to hand over Ukraine to his buddy, Christ almighty most powerful nation on earth can only be led by either a near dead corpse or a threat to humanity...

I cannot understand why they’d let Biden run this year. The man is not well and the performance during the debate was shameful. You seen the Jon Stewart take on it?
 

Nonehxc

Member
Also true.
NK soldiers are on a highway to hell.
I don't know if you caught my dark humour, I wasn't very clear. 😗

What I meant is this 👌🏻🤤❤️👩‍🦲🥩🔥

North Koreans are known to resort/enjoy widespread cannibalism even today, last report I read was from 2013, probably have been newer, don't need to know. In that, they're very much like their masters, the Chinese people.

In other news, remember Tivaz_Artillery Group? One of the best artillery units UA has, they've been one of the most prominent pounding AA defenses in Crimea. They're the ones that clusterclucked those S-300/S-400 batteries not long ago in spectacular fashion with ATACMS. I mean THIS

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Remember Budanov talking very recently about Russia moving their only known to 'work' S-500 battery from Putin's bald spot in Moscow to Crimea?

Weeeeeell...


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FunkMiller

Gold Member
I know this borders on Political but after that shitshow last night, Europe better brace itself to pick up the slack and get stuck in, it's a fucking shoein that orange fucking Putin puppet gets in and his first order of business will be to hand over Ukraine to his buddy, Christ almighty most powerful nation on earth can only be led by either a near dead corpse or a threat to humanity...

I feel deeply sorry for America that this is the choice they have. Couldn't be worse. For the rest of us, either.
 

FunkMiller

Gold Member
America might be able to weather another 4 years of Trump and make it out alive, but Ukraine won't.

Neither option is good for Ukraine. Either a dithering old fuck who’s already let Putin get away with too much, or a raging narcissistic clown who’ll suck Putin’s dick for a pat on the head.

It couldn’t really be any worse. I just pray someone in the administration manages to wipe the drool off Biden’s chin, and gets him to commit fully before it’s too late. Not holding my breath.

Cowards and charlatans the fucking lot of them.
 

BlackTron

Gold Member
Neither option is good for Ukraine. Either a dithering old fuck who’s already let Putin get away with too much, or a raging narcissistic clown who’ll suck Putin’s dick for a pat on the head.

It couldn’t really be any worse. I just pray someone in the administration manages to wipe the drool off Biden’s chin, and gets him to commit fully before it’s too late. Not holding my breath.

Cowards and charlatans the fucking lot of them.

Just wondering, did you happen to watch the video about escalation management a few posts up? And if so do you have an opinion on that video?

At least Biden is fighting at all, within the seeming parameters of escalation management. Appears Trump will just pull out and give away the whole game.

I don't think those are equally bad for Ukraine, even if it's cringe to vote for either.
 

Nonehxc

Member
We're in 1941 boys.

Not that the motorcycle is bad, after all, it's a knock-off of a BMW motorcycle, and these are still being made today, but...

Now they're gonna send people in Urals-Dnepr M72s/Chang Jiang CJ750s with such sidecars that would make a retarded Red Army soldier from 1942 vomit in disgust. Well, they could use them as supply transport but...really? Have they run out of trucks too? 🫠





No, wait, I'm wrong. 🥺

This is the pinnacle of Russian engineering.

They are sending their troops meat waves with sidecoffins ⚰️ so when they fall, they can bury themselves for Mother Russia. 🫡
 
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Tams

Member
We're in 1941 boys.

Not that the motorcycle is bad, after all, it's a knock-off of a BMW motorcycle, and these are still being made today, but...

Now they're gonna send people in Urals-Dnepr M72s/Chang Jiang CJ750s with such sidecars that would make a retarded Red Army soldier from 1942 vomit in disgust. Well, they could use them as supply transport but...really? Have they run out of trucks too? 🫠





No, wait, I'm wrong. 🥺

This is the pinnacle of Russian engineering.

They are sending their troops meat waves with sidecoffins ⚰️ so when they fall, they can bury themselves for Mother Russia. 🫡


Literal Cargo 200 motorcycles.
 

Zathalus

Member
Yeah unless a miracle happens with the election I don’t see Ukraine lasting another 4 years. Maybe the EU and the rest of Europe can pick up the slack, but Ukraine needs a shit ton of cash and munitions.
 

RaduN

Member
Neither option is good for Ukraine. Either a dithering old fuck who’s already let Putin get away with too much, or a raging narcissistic clown who’ll suck Putin’s dick for a pat on the head.

It couldn’t really be any worse. I just pray someone in the administration manages to wipe the drool off Biden’s chin, and gets him to commit fully before it’s too late. Not holding my breath.

Cowards and charlatans the fucking lot of them.
Absolutely false. The current president handled the war issue exceptionally well.

I don't dare imagine how fast things will go to hell if, God forbid, that fucking orange antichrist wins.

Yeah, i humbly accept the moderation. As an european, i'm just voicing my honest concerns.
 

FunkMiller

Gold Member
Absolutely false. The current president handled the war issue exceptionally well.

I don't dare imagine how fast things will go to hell if, God forbid, that fucking orange antichrist wins.

Yeah, i humbly accept the moderation. As an european, i'm just voicing my honest concerns.

Which is why it’s now dragged out for two and a half years, and the Ukrainians have had to go cap in hand repeatedly for stuff that could have, and should have, been provided to them months, if not years ago.

Don’t let your perfectly understandable dislike of Trump blind you to the inadequacies of the current administration.
 

FunkMiller

Gold Member
Just wondering, did you happen to watch the video about escalation management a few posts up? And if so do you have an opinion on that video?

At least Biden is fighting at all, within the seeming parameters of escalation management. Appears Trump will just pull out and give away the whole game.

I don't think those are equally bad for Ukraine, even if it's cringe to vote for either.

And there’s the problem. Trump will indeed just pull out to please his mate Vlad. So why is Biden dragging his heels so much to allow this to go on for so long?

His hubris about winning this next election, along with his cowardice to properly confront the paper tiger of Russia will likely doom Ukraine. He is the better option, but he’s failed to plan for a situation where he is not in power. Which there’s a very good chance he won’t be.

I get hating the idea of Trump again, but let’s not pretend Biden has exactly done a good job here. It’s been frustrating and sickening how much he’s wrung his hands while Ukrainians have died.
 

Liljagare

Member
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Ukraine May Have Hit Russia's $600 Million S-500 SAM System With ATACMS



A group of anti-war activists managed to become “friends” with dozens of Russian lawmakers and senators by posing as a pro-war poet on VKontakte. The poems they shared were actually translations of poetry from Nazi Germany

 

RaduN

Member
Which is why it’s now dragged out for two and a half years, and the Ukrainians have had to go cap in hand repeatedly for stuff that could have, and should have, been provided to them months, if not years ago.

Don’t let your perfectly understandable dislike of Trump blind you to the inadequacies of the current administration.
Hasn't this been discussed a million times already? Since basically day one?
Anyway, there's little any free world leader (Biden, Macron, whoever) could have done to speed up the help or some favourable conclusion to this war, without pushing things into an even worse state (and there's plenty room for that inside today's fucked up Europe), given the situation.
 

FunkMiller

Gold Member
Hasn't this been discussed a million times already? Since basically day one?
Anyway, there's little any free world leader (Biden, Macron, whoever) could have done to speed up the help or some favourable conclusion to this war, without pushing things into an even worse state (and there's plenty room for that inside today's fucked up Europe), given the situation.

What kind of worse state do you mean? Because Putin's red lines have been repeatedly crossed, with zero escalation.
 

Nonehxc

Member
Literal Cargo 200 motorcycles.
Literally. Greatly added weight, greatly diminished speed, greatly curtailed maneuverability cross country and everywhere, bigger target for literally anything that entropy throws their way, prone to overturn. Lets remember motorbikes aren't made to carry 4 guys and equipment at speed. This is just defeating each and every purpose to use a motorcycle, which is carrying 1/2 guys at nice speeds, and have huge maneuverability everywhere, even in the most rugged terrains...

unless you're so strangled you can't resort to anything else.

You just converted a speedy light and slim dirt eater able to pass through the narrowest point of the most difficult terrain into a monster that will get stuck against the lowest rock, the sweetest slope and the slimmest branch thrown around a field. Even if nothing is in your way, motorcycles with sidecars(real sidecars with just one guy, or a small light transportation sidecar) have a propensity to get stuck in small puddles of water, a bit of mud, a lame pothole and anything that the hardest road terrain even without the added weight of a guy or a bit of equipment, so a tilled field, any artillery battered terrain or an armor fucked road it's gonna be nuts for these 🤷🏻‍♂️

Sidecoffin probably made of the lowest grade of sheet metal you can find, wouldn't even stop a small caliber. If the sidecar breaks, if the wheel throws a fit, breaks a radius, whatever, you're just dragging, if still able to drag, dead weight(hah!).

I bet we're gonna see sooner than later the Carrouselgruppen, a rush of these with one on the motorcycle and 3 with guns on the sidecoffin passing from one side to the other directly in front of Ukrainian positions and it's gonna be NES Duck Hunt. 🫡⚰️
 
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BlackTron

Gold Member
And there’s the problem. Trump will indeed just pull out to please his mate Vlad. So why is Biden dragging his heels so much to allow this to go on for so long?

I think there is a reason for that, and it may be a badly conceived or presumptuous one, but it's not necessarily hand-wringing. I would still appreciate your thoughts on that escalation management vid on from Youtube. Basically worried about the geopolitical consequences of every scenario, including Russian collapse which could destabilize the area, and even incite Putin to use nukes to maintain his own power inside Russia during civil war.

I don't think I agree with all these entirely, but that's not a place of hand-wringing, it's a place of thinking Chess many steps in advance to prevent many scenarios of escalation. It might be playing the wrong game, but at least it is one that is weighing serious consequences for the world, and not necessarily cowardice. Foolishness perhaps.
 

FunkMiller

Gold Member
I think there is a reason for that, and it may be a badly conceived or presumptuous one, but it's not necessarily hand-wringing. I would still appreciate your thoughts on that escalation management vid on from Youtube. Basically worried about the geopolitical consequences of every scenario, including Russian collapse which could destabilize the area, and even incite Putin to use nukes to maintain his own power inside Russia during civil war.

I think we've blown way past the point where escalation into a global crisis is likely. Russia clearly does not have the military might to do such a thing, and Putin has been resolutely proved to be all mouth and no trousers. China will not enter into any kind of escalatory measures, because their economy is so intrinsically tied up with the west. North Korea are a bunch of simpletons who can't keep the lights on at night.

The argument to not push Russia further in case of internal destabilisation is not a valid one, if we are talking about saving Ukraine from further bloodshed. Neither would a destabilised Russia effect the global economy, given the level of sanctions it is already under. If anything, internecine civil warfare in Russia would take a lot of the pressure off countries like Ukraine and Georgia, allowing them to move closer the west. And Belarus would also collapse, allowing it's opposition to take over the country from Putin's puppet.

The questions of the use of nuclear weapons has been answered repeatedly, every time NATO has attacked Russian soil, via the Ukrainian forces. At no stage has Putin done anything other than flap his gums about using nukes against the west. It's not going to happen.

Russia has been exceptional at creating a false impression of the country's soft and hard power, but it is massively apparent that they have no real response to a major western support of Ukraine. This war could - and should - be over by autumn.
 

BlackTron

Gold Member
I think we've blown way past the point where escalation into a global crisis is likely. Russia clearly does not have the military might to do such a thing, and Putin has been resolutely proved to be all mouth and no trousers. China will not enter into any kind of escalatory measures, because their economy is so intrinsically tied up with the west. North Korea are a bunch of simpletons who can't keep the lights on at night.

The argument to not push Russia further in case of internal destabilisation is not a valid one, if we are talking about saving Ukraine from further bloodshed. Neither would a destabilised Russia effect the global economy, given the level of sanctions it is already under. If anything, internecine civil warfare in Russia would take a lot of the pressure off countries like Ukraine and Georgia, allowing them to move closer the west. And Belarus would also collapse, allowing it's opposition to take over the country from Putin's puppet.

The questions of the use of nuclear weapons has been answered repeatedly, every time NATO has attacked Russian soil, via the Ukrainian forces. At no stage has Putin done anything other than flap his gums about using nukes against the west. It's not going to happen.

Russia has been exceptional at creating a false impression of the country's soft and hard power, but it is massively apparent that they have no real response to a major western support of Ukraine. This war could - and should - be over by autumn.

Well I already said that I don't necessarily agree with these concerns, just that having them is not hand-wringing.

I'm a little skeptical that you did not watch the vid and just addressed the parts that I plugged in my post, but it doesn't matter.
 

Nonehxc

Member
Russia is sending 30mm turreted not very 'MRAP' K-4386 Typhoon-VDVs.

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What's wrong with this pic? Well, for starters, this is esentially a lightly armored technical made for Syria. This is meant as an armored escort for non armor able to mow civilians in flip flops with not much in the anti-armor sense. This is not meant to fight head on in a full scale war, this is for defense against lame ambushes by irregular forces. This is not meant to suck even the furthest shrapnel of artillery, javelin, anti-materiel, tank flinged anti-armor tungsten lances, drones with assorted warheads, etc etc etc and many other etcs. One stray little chunk of metal and it's a technical kill. Anything bigger than that and it's going through one door and exiting another with bits and pieces of the Russians that thought they were secure in the warm and armored embrace of Mother Russia.

Following, while the design had V-shaped hull against IEDs and mines(hence MRAP), Russia, in their infinite wisdom, made them flat bottomed, so not very MRAP.

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The stabilisation of the 30mm gun is anyone's guess. 🤷🏻‍♂️

And there's very very few of them. Which compounds into the belief( with facts) Russia is low on heavy IFVs and APCs that they're sending these into action.

So, to sum up:

Drone for the kill.

Javelin for MASSIVE OVERKILL AND LULZ 😆
 
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