From which year is this graph? Looks veeeeery outdated. Tegra 2 was A9? :/
I honestly couldn't tell you I found it on anandtech in a Parker speculation article. They specifically mentioned it was out of date but still a useful metric.
From which year is this graph? Looks veeeeery outdated. Tegra 2 was A9? :/
Nvidia hasn't been able to fit a Tegra within a phone-sized battery for several years now. The K1 and X1 are tablet and above. The Shield tablet is a beast but the battery life is utter crap. Unless the NX handheld has a 7" screen, color me skeptical. Phone makers have been avoiding NVidia regularly.
BTW, battery life was the reason Nintendo dropped the Tegra 2 from the 3DS. Yes, it was going to be even worse.
Nvidia hasn't been able to fit a Tegra within a phone-sized battery for several years now. The K1 and X1 are tablet and above. The Shield tablet is a beast but the battery life is utter crap. Unless the NX handheld has a 7" screen, color me skeptical. Phone makers have been avoiding NVidia regularly.
BTW, battery life was the reason Nintendo dropped the Tegra 2 from the 3DS. Yes, it was going to be even worse.
I'm more concerned about battery life than graphics. It's really stupid to see people tout the PSP and Vita as good handhelds with the kind of shitty battery life they have. One of the reasons I wasn't excited for the 3DS is because of the weak battery. I hope they don't fuck it up for the NX.
I think decent battery life in handhelds is over.
I think decent battery life in handhelds is over.
I think decent battery life in handhelds is over.
How long was the 3DS' battery life?
Then I'm skipping the NX handheld if the battery life continues to degrade.
2 and a half to 4 hours. Not very good, but what was (still is) really bad was the standby battery life.
Vita's was pretty good for what it was and shat all over the 3ds battery for whatever reason. You could play P4G for longer than you could play a damn DS game on 3ds for whatever stupid reason.I'm more concerned about battery life than graphics. It's really stupid to see people tout the PSP and Vita as good handhelds with the kind of shitty battery life they have. One of the reasons I wasn't excited for the 3DS is because of the weak battery. I hope they don't fuck it up for the NX.
ARM-A57 ?
ARM-A72 ?
Nvidia ARM / Denver ?
Tegra X1 runs 4x A57 + 4x A53 in big.LITTLE. But the handheld would probably only need A53s.ARM-A57 ?
ARM-A72 ?
Nvidia ARM / Denver ?
Except it seems like a bizarre business decision as the handheld market is shrinking rapidly and the console market isn't.
Battery tech hasn't seen advancement. What *has* seen advancement has been standby battery life, and it's a fairly safe prediction to make that you'll see those improvements on the NX handheld.
What you probably won't see is what phones do - drastically choke performance to save on battery. You kinda can't do that where you're expected to deliver constant performance metrics.
I'm still skeptical there will be another trad home console right away, if this thing can stand in for a Wii U replacement for now they can make do with that.
Well... I doubt that will be the case, especially with so many Wii U touchscreen games working fine without a tv.
semiaccurate is highly unreliable
The Tegra X1, which is used in Nvidia Shield devices, has about 10-20x the raw floating point performance of the Vita CPU+GPU.
Vita does 51 gigaflops, the Tegra X1 does 1 teraflop (512 GFLOPS half-precision). Not to mention better bandwidth, fillrate, API, energy consumption, memory, etc.
And it's already been on the market for over a year
The 3DS's battery was absolutely miniscule compared to the size of the system.
I mean, the 3DS XL's battery is only very slightly bigger than the battery in the iPhone 6s, a much smaller and thinner device.
I'm more concerned about battery life than graphics. It's really stupid to see people tout the PSP and Vita as good handhelds with the kind of shitty battery life they have. One of the reasons I wasn't excited for the 3DS is because of the weak battery. I hope they don't fuck it up for the NX.
- Tegra X1. Marketed as a 500Gflops device and retailing on the Shield Console. Should be more powerful than a Wii U but it has yet to be seen on a handheld form factor. Runs games like Crysis 3. The most likely contender imho, but at significant lower clocks.
- Tegra "Parker". Pascal based, no devices yet on the market.
Please, correct if wrong.
what I'm curious about, is....say there is one mario kart 9.
Is it made for the console, but can run on the handheld? Does developing for both mean that it won't play to the console's full strength. Or will the handheld be strong enough to run a Mario Kart 9, but just at a lower resolution. But the base game retains all it's bells and whistles on consoles.
Zing! hahayou could say.... they are semiaccurate.
Battery life should be a non issue. There are 2 very easy ways to fix it. 1. Make the battery removable so anyone who wants long portable gaming sessions can easily carry a spare battery or 2 sell an accessory that allows you to charge it portably ( case, spare battery ect)
Provided they can get 3 hours out of a full charge 90% of people won't care
For the console, I hope Nintendo doesn't under-clock it. I hope they try to aim a little higher see if they can squeeze some more juice out if, but who knows.
The specs are likely not final, but I can imagine it'll be <200 (probably $199.99)The price though?
Shouldn't we consolidate this thread with the Emily Rogers report one?
I feel GAF has really lost its shit here.
Shouldn't we consolidate this thread with the Emily Rogers report one?
I feel GAF has really lost its shit here.
Well...doesn't one news explain the other?Emily's: Console, no info beyond "is not x86 based, not more powerful than current gen".
Semiaccurate: Next Nintendo handheld is Tegra based.
Shouldn't we consolidate this thread with the Emily Rogers report one?
I feel GAF has really lost its shit here.
Dual screen support on the 3DS (which is the more important data point here, since the console needs a second screen to have touch at all) is still widely used. I really don't think that's going away.
A K1 variant seems more likely for a handheld. I mean that is still PS3/360/Wii U level performance. I feel K1 is more likely due to its Quad Core nature. X1 is an Octo-Core and I really don't see a Handheld needing 8 Cores.
Of course if Nvidia do have an issue with an abundance of 20nm ordered then Nintendo might work with an X1 and tweak as needed.
A K1 with the GPU at 400mhz would be faster than PS3/360/U, especially at 540p.
Althought I think X1 is more likely considering how old K1 CPU is.
A K1 variant seems more likely for a handheld. I mean that is still PS3/360/Wii U level performance. I feel K1 is more likely due to its Quad Core nature. X1 is an Octo-Core and I really don't see a Handheld needing 8 Cores.
Of course if Nvidia do have an issue with an abundance of 20nm ordered then Nintendo might work with an X1 and tweak as needed.
Nvidia hasn't been able to fit a Tegra within a phone-sized battery for several years now. The K1 and X1 are tablet and above. The Shield tablet is a beast but the battery life is utter crap. Unless the NX handheld has a 7" screen, color me skeptical. Phone makers have been avoiding NVidia regularly.
BTW, battery life was the reason Nintendo dropped the Tegra 2 from the 3DS. Yes, it was going to be even worse.
touch inputs don't necessarily require a screen. Making another pair of devices that resemble the 3DS and Wii U is the last thing they'll want to do imho.