It's funny. Countless threads and discussions for months on end about 2gb, 3gb being enough, about some random $500 setup blowing away the consoles and able to run next-gen games for a few years at least. It's all out the window. All of it was bs.
It's not about consoles matching VRAM requirements for PC Ultra quality textures.
The consoles have just moved up the baseline requirements.
Yeah, it doesn't. But still, short answer: Yes, that's the reason.
Longer answer: Developers can do a lot more with Ultra settings on the PC now that they aren't as constrained by 512mb RAM consoles. It's a lot easier to scale up further when the PS4 & XB1 are the baseline. Mordor is technically cross-gen, but the last gen versions were outsourced and apparently have stuff gutted from them. It's more like pseudo-cross gen so the developers weren't so quite as held back by it.
Basically, the PS4 & XB1 are a *huge* boon for people who love high end PC settings.
2GB of VRAM was sufficient when games were developed for 512 MB and ported up, but the baseline has now increased by a factor of 16.Excuse me? 6GB? Are they serious? That it, I'm officially over PC hardware. Not that I cared much about this game anyway, but if my 2GB gtx 670 can't cut the mustard at 1080p someone fucked up.
I responded to this point on the previous page.I don't see how anything has changed. The requirement of being able to run "next-gen" games at console-equivalent standards is just as you described, except minus the "out of the window" part. If you want your PC to continue to meet new standards as they change over time, in this case a setting that far exceeds (Texture Quality) what the console versions are using you will need better hardware.
Twisting information to fit your arguments doesn't make them any more true.
Easy buy a ps4 and u can play every game on high-ultra
Not true. I have 3 cards with that amount of VRAM in my machine now
But if you mean prices coming down to mainstream levels for cards with 4GB+ VRAMthen you're probably right.
Easy buy a ps4 and u can play every game on high-ultra
Your video card is 2 and a half years old, why should you be able to run everything at max settings without performance issues?
Yes.Isn't there only 4.5 - 5GB available to devs on the PS4 and X1?
My god at that VRAM!
At least I know what game I'll be revisiting in 2020 with 8GB of VRAM
According to OCUK the GTX 970 and GTX 980 with 8GB models are expected somewhere between November and December.
Damn fuckin' straight.Nvidia better be fucking quick with 20nm Maxwell.
Easy buy a ps4 and u can play every game on high-ultra
So what does this mean?
1080p 6Gb vram for Ultra textures. How much vram do you need if you wanna go 4k in the future?
This man knows whats up.Basically, buy a PS4 and enjoy games at high/medium.
Wait 3 years until GPU's are put of the 28nm hole and Nvidia/AMD step up the VRAM offering then buy a mainstream GPU that will net you again high/ultra settings for all these console ports until nex-gen
Then repeat process.
Sounds like a plan.
So what does this mean?
1080p 6Gb vram for Ultra textures. How much vram do you need if you wanna go 4k in the future?
That GTX 570 is going to get raped lol
The game runs at 60 fps on PS4.
And while it makes sense to assume that the PC version will be superior in most ways, it's far from a guarantee.
I responded to this point on the previous page.
First of all, why would you want to play at console equivalent settings for the price we're paying? Second, the PS4 version is running at 1080p/60fps. I wouldn't be surprised if it's equivalent to high settings on PC.
Probably the most reasonable path to take.Basically, buy a PS4 and enjoy games at high/medium.
Wait 3 years until GPU's are put of the 28nm hole and Nvidia/AMD step up the VRAM offering then buy a mainstream GPU that will net you again high/ultra settings for all these console ports until nex-gen
Then repeat process.
Sounds like a plan.
They're not console-equivalent prices.Why would I want to play at console equivalent settings for console equivalent prices?
The 2gb/3gb cards aren't going to last the entire generation, even on console-equivalent settings. You're wrong when you say nothing has changed. A lot has changed, almost overnight. Look at Evil Within. We're just at the start of this gen.Honestly I wouldn't, you'd be better off investing more but that's what all of these arguments are based off for some reason. It could be "High" settings on PS4, but that doesn't make your previous statement on console-equivalent PCs lasting the generation true, or have any correlation with with the 6GB of VRAM for "Ultra".
Adding another video card doesn't increase the memory bandwidth of your system.Probably SLI setup.
Wasn't there recently a thread about this? People who jump into PC gaming expecting to run everything at max settings. It's not a realistic expectation, and there's nothing wrong with turning down some stuff. It'll still look great.
you need quad Titan Z's
Lol and people got angry at me for suggesting that their 3 gig cards won't cut it for this gen.
ya, no lol. i doubt its oging to be 1080p on ps4. itll probably be like watch dogs, where they say 3gb for high, but you can actaully play it on a 2gb card like i did with no stutters. they are exagerating i think.
Yes, i belive this will be the new thing, i am not surprised, this is all about bad optimization and exageration on the devs part.
It's like there's some kind of psychological blow when they can't put one of the settings at the highest number. Even though it's an optional texture pack add-on designed to provide extreme quality to those with the highest end cards. Like a 670 with 2GB is still going to be matching or exceeding PS4 quality. People panicking because they've got a 3GB 780 are going to look pretty silly when the actual benches come out.
Lowering settings isn't the same as not cutting it. I'm sure the game will look just fine at high textures.Lol and people got angry at me for suggesting that their 3 gig cards won't cut it for this gen.
What is order independent transparency? Some new fancy effect?
Lowering settings isn't the same as not cutting it. I'm sure the game will look just fine at high textures.
The guy who said he was switching his Evil Within PC preorder to the PS4 because he only has a 3GB GTX 780 was hilarious. At least us 600 series plebs are working with nearly three year old cards. The paranoid 780 owners just don't have an excuse lol.It's like there's some kind of psychological blow when they can't put one of the settings at the highest number. Even though it's an optional texture pack add-on designed to provide extreme quality to those with the highest end cards. Like a 670 with 2GB is still going to be matching or exceeding PS4 quality. People panicking because they've got a 3GB 780 are going to look pretty silly when the actual benches come out.
X VRAM does not quarrelate with Y resolution. People need to stop thinking that way. They were wrong when saying 1GB, 1.5GB, 2GB and etc is all you will ever need at 1080p. If there gpu was powerful, you could do 100GB at 1080p. Just think about how much power and VRAM it would require to render NY Time Square photorealistic.So what does this mean?
1080p 6Gb vram for Ultra textures. How much vram do you need if you wanna go 4k in the future?
It's funny. Countless threads and discussions for months on end about 2gb, 3gb being enough, about some random $500 setup blowing away the consoles and able to run next-gen games for a few years at least. It's all out the window. All of it was bs.
It's like there's some kind of psychological blow when they can't put one of the settings at the highest number. Even though it's an optional texture pack add-on designed to provide extreme quality to those with the highest end cards. Like a 670 with 2GB is still going to be matching or exceeding PS4 quality. People panicking because they've got a 3GB 780 are going to look pretty silly when the actual benches come out.
Thing is, you need 3 gigs for high. That's an expensive card. To get medium you need 2 gigs. A 670 with 2 gigs is over 200 bucks.It's like there's some kind of psychological blow when they can't put one of the settings at the highest number. Even though it's an optional texture pack add-on designed to provide extreme quality to those with the highest end cards. Like a 670 with 2GB is still going to be matching or exceeding PS4 quality. People panicking because they've got a 3GB 780 are going to look pretty silly when the actual benches come out.
Never stop reading the thread. Just 10 posts down I address that, but I'm guessing you were in a fervor to post that.Never stop doing this in threads, it's hilarious. Yes, ultra on PC will be perfectly on par with console versions. You've figured it all out.
You guys realize that you dont have to max everything right?
The guy who said he was switching his Evil Within PC preorder to the PS4 because he only has a 3GB GTX 780 was hilarious. At least us 600 series plebs are working with nearly three year old cards. The paranoid 780 owners just don't have an excuse lol.
You guys realize that you dont have to max everything right?