Perhaps it is on console? Or comparing XB1 to XBX
Most decent range phones can render at a better distance than the top picture on the new Minecraft. I think they're just playing silly beggars with trying to make it pop as much as possible.
Perhaps it is on console? Or comparing XB1 to XBX
Once again I don't care if I come off as a hypocrite in your eyes and your devil's advocate attitude is likewise also not doing anything to add value for or against this cause; also again Cerium can explain it better than I can but the update has been made and it is what it is, everything about it to me is positive and cross play isn't supposed to be looked at as a tradeoff; it's another positive. Also, you already know that I'm an owner of only PlayStation consoles. Ps1, Ps2, PsP, Ps3, Ps4, Ps Vita; I only game on Sony's platforms and I've been critical of Sony this whole time. The colloquial term "fanboy" has been meant so many different things at this point now you're saying I'm a fanboy of a platform brand that I've never even been a part ofBut there are more changes to the game than just cross play and they're holding those features back from the PS4 version for business reasons. Is that not the case? I'm not saying they aren't justified; I'm saying your argument is weakened when you have a hypocritical stance by siding with one party over the other when they both are doing similar things in the fact that they're doing what's in their best interest as a business. Are you saying Microsoft doesn't have the resources to update Minecraft for the PS4 to have all the other features except cross play? As a business, Microsoft shouldn't be required to incur that cost because of Sony, but if you want to ignore the business reality, then that shouldn't be something you consider.
I feel if you want this to gain better traction, people need a better approach because it's coming off as borderline fanboyism when you are condemning one but not the other based on principles of not caring about what it means to the business and yelling out anti-consumer. Otherwise you get people poking holes in your flawed approach rather than having a sound argument. I've said it before, I'm on your side as far as wanting cross play for everyone, but I think some of your reasoning is flawed when you're trying to present your case. It's disheartening to see in the other thread how many people don't give a shit on an enthusiast board, but if they don't care, the casuals probably won't either so I think a stronger case needs to be made. That's why I'm calling you out on your argument; that and because you seemed at least willing to listen and consider the points being made.
Once again I don't care if I come off as a hypocrite in your eyes and your devil's advocate attitude is likewise also not doing anything to add value for or against this cause; also again Cerium can explain it better than I can but the update has been made and it is what it is, everything about it to me is positive and cross play isn't supposed to be looked at as a tradeoff; it's another positive. Also, you already know that I'm an owner of only PlayStation consoles. Ps1, Ps2, PsP, Ps3, Ps4, Ps Vita; I only game on Sony's platforms and I've been critical of Sony this whole time. The colloquial term "fanboy" has been meant so many different things at this point now you're saying I'm a fanboy of a platform brand that I've never even been a part of
I'm not saying you're a fanboy; I'm saying the stance and argument has the optics of fanboyism. There's a difference. Nobody is going to look at your gaming history and know from how you post. They are going to look at you condemning Sony but then letting Microsoft slide on similar principles. When you scream and yell at one while excusing the other then it looks like fanboyism. There's a difference.
If you don't care that you look like a hypocrite is the only response you have to that, then you really have a flawed argument despite being on the right side of the issue. You wonder why people in here and other threads challenge and debate you and other people like you on this argument and maybe you should actually look at how you argue and present your side. There's reason for push back and this is part of it. If you don't care how it looks, then what do you really expect to accomplish when people dismiss it as just raving Xbox fans because they get the impression you're looking the other way when it comes to Microsoft based on the very reasons you're using explicitly to condemn Sony? You're free to push the issue any way you please, but if this is the stance that you and other people are going to take, I'd brace myself for a lot more push back and less people jumping in with you.
I'll say it again, your end game is good; your game plan and approach is flawed.
You wonder why people in here and other threads challenge and debate you and other people like you on this argument and maybe you should actually look at how you argue and present your side. There's reason for push back and this is part of it..
Obviously, I don't have insight into their business itself, but three possibilities come to mind:
1) A policy has not yet been formalized or been considered, and their PR people are not in a position to discuss this on behalf of the business.
2) They have special relationships with certain publishers and/or developers that they are comfortable with negotiating crossplay features, and that is the furthest they will go.
3) They do not want to have crossplay with XBox or Nintendo, period.
Personally, I think it falls somewhere between 1 and 2. They have conceded to some cross-platform multiplayer for Square-Enix MMOs, and it's a matter for them to consider whether that should be broadened.
I do find it a little cheeky that they tweak the render distance in the better looking one as well. That's not part of the fancy dancy pack
There aren't many games bigger than Minecraft and Rocket League.Maybe with a bigger title in the future that can happen, but I'm not holding my breath.
From what I understand, that is part of the fancy pack. This update isn't just a texture and lighting pack, it's a whole new engine. It also uses the crossplay network to add PC like infinite worlds on console and mobile.
Did anyone post this:
https://www.cnet.com/news/sony-still-blocks-cross-platform-multiplayer-xbox-nintendo-e3-2017/
CNET ripped them apart for this decision. lol. Hope the pressure continues. Bigger player base can only be a good thing and give games a longer life span. Titanfall on PC needs this bad.
I'm not saying you're a fanboy; I'm saying the stance and argument has the optics of fanboyism. There's a difference. Nobody is going to look at your gaming history and know from how you post. They are going to look at you condemning Sony but then letting Microsoft slide on similar principles. When you scream and yell at one while excusing the other then it looks like fanboyism. There's a difference.
If you don't care that you look like a hypocrite is the only response you have to that, then you really have a flawed argument despite being on the right side of the issue. You wonder why people in here and other threads challenge and debate you and other people like you on this argument and maybe you should actually look at how you argue and present your side. There's reason for push back and this is part of it. If you don't care how it looks, then what do you really expect to accomplish when people dismiss it as just raving Xbox fans because they get the impression you're looking the other way when it comes to Microsoft based on the very reasons you're using explicitly to condemn Sony? You're free to push the issue any way you please, but if this is the stance that you and other people are going to take, I'd brace myself for a lot more push back and less people jumping in with you.
I'll say it again, your end game is good; your game plan and approach is flawed.
Maybe bullet points would be easier to explain how I see thingsI'm not saying you're a fanboy; I'm saying the stance and argument has the optics of fanboyism. There's a difference. Nobody is going to look at your gaming history and know from how you post. They are going to look at you condemning Sony but then letting Microsoft slide on similar principles. When you scream and yell at one while excusing the other then it looks like fanboyism. There's a difference.
If you don't care that you look like a hypocrite is the only response you have to that, then you really have a flawed argument despite being on the right side of the issue. You wonder why people in here and other threads challenge and debate you and other people like you on this argument and maybe you should actually look at how you argue and present your side. There's reason for push back and this is part of it. If you don't care how it looks, then what do you really expect to accomplish when people dismiss it as just raving Xbox fans because they get the impression you're looking the other way when it comes to Microsoft based on the very reasons you're using explicitly to condemn Sony? You're free to push the issue any way you please, but if this is the stance that you and other people are going to take, I'd brace myself for a lot more push back and less people jumping in with you.
I'll say it again, your end game is good; your game plan and approach is flawed.
I don't see the big deal. Ms last gen wouldn't allow it and Sony is doing the same this gen. No one hated on Ms back then.
This crap still a thing, Sony don't need to do nothing. MS acting the good guy because they got no games.
Almost unfair.This crap still a thing, Sony don't need to do nothing. MS acting the good guy because they got no games.
I don't see the big deal. Ms last gen wouldn't allow it and Sony is doing the same this gen. No one hated on Ms back then.
This crap still a thing, Sony don't need to do nothing. MS acting the good guy because they got no games.
I don't see the big deal. Ms last gen wouldn't allow it and Sony is doing the same this gen. No one hated on Ms back then.
This crap still a thing, Sony don't need to do nothing. MS acting the good guy because they got no games.
Childish.This crap still a thing, Sony don't need to do nothing. MS acting the good guy because they got no games.
Get em!This crap still a thing, Sony don't need to do nothing. MS acting the good guy because they got no games.
Bias? I'm not fussed either way. People are going over the top with this. Sony as a company can choose what to do with their online infrastructure. As can the other two companies.You're incredibly wrong, but don't let bias get in the way of things.
Seriously? Seriously?
Almost unfair.
Bias? I'm not fussed either way. People are going over the top with this. Sony as a company can choose what to do with their online infrastructure. As can the other two companies.
I agree, entirely.
Indeed they can voice their opinion, I can't see much changing just because people on a forum shout about this one thing.And customers can choose when to be loud on the internet so that they get the features they want wherever they choose to play.
Lets not forget that from a leading position MS never pushed for cross platform mp.
Almost unfair.
Believe me we haven't forgotten. It's been mentioned on every page at least once.
You lose nothing if this becomes a reality. Stop arguing for a corporation.
I was never arguing for corporations. Some people on here just need a reality check. Sony isn't going to do this #4thePlayers, and neither is MS. Both are doing this for business reasons. Saying I don't care about business, and then saying MS shouldn't have to port the upgrade to PS4 while saying Sony should do crossplay is hypocritical plain and simple.
Won't someone PLEASE think of the children
I was never arguing for corporations. Some people on here just need a reality check. Sony isn't going to do this #4thePlayers, and neither is MS. Both are doing this for business reasons. Saying I don't care about business, and then saying MS shouldn't have to port the upgrade to PS4 while saying Sony should do crossplay is hypocritical plain and simple.
Won't someone PLEASE think of the children
You disagree? You think MS/Nintendo doing this is "for the players"?
I was never arguing for corporations. Some people on here just need a reality check. Sony isn't going to do this #4thePlayers, and neither is MS. Both are doing this for business reasons. Saying I don't care about business, and then saying MS shouldn't have to port the upgrade to PS4 while saying Sony should do crossplay is hypocritical plain and simple.
I'm fine with
PS4 + PC (+ Switch) and
Xbone + PC + Switch
Enough players in pool. (As if PS4 ever had any problems in matchmaking...).
If you don't want to accept a certain business strategy, you are gladly welcome to vote with your wallet. MS is launching new console in dire need of buyers (and games) - so there's that.
Nothing you posted addresses the fact that it doesn't matter why the other companies want to do it - better for consumers is better for consumers. By your logic there's no such thing as anti or pro-consumer in any sense.
So are you trying to say that Nintendo, Microsoft, Google, Apple and Valve are doing a pro-consumer move out of business reasons?
What a hypocritical consumer would I be to reward such shameless pro-consumer moves.
I was never arguing for corporations. Some people on here just need a reality check. Sony isn't going to do this #4thePlayers, and neither is MS. Both are doing this for business reasons. Saying I don't care about business, and then saying MS shouldn't have to port the upgrade to PS4 while saying Sony should do crossplay is hypocritical plain and simple.
Its not hypocritical to reward companies for moves you like. If you read my post I say its hypocritical to say one side is anti consumer for what they are not doing while saying its ok for the other side to not do something.
No your post is a stupid as fuck deflection because if we get what we want (crossplay) then you get what you claim to want (the Minecraft relaunch). If you actually had any interest in Minecraft you would be asking for crossplay just like the rest of us. What you actually want here is to muddy the discussion with some "both sides are the same" horseshit. It's very transparent and no one is fooled.
Sounds like a Nintendo response, oh wait, except Nintendo is allowing cross-play on Switch for Rocket League AND Minecraft!!