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What have the studios they already bought done? It's best we wait and see but I'm betting PlayStation will still sell more unitsWhen was the last time Microsoft purchased two Publishers?
What have the studios they already bought done? It's best we wait and see but I'm betting PlayStation will still sell more unitsWhen was the last time Microsoft purchased two Publishers?
Sorry, no, stay on topic. You're posting this kind of rhetoric in multiple threads at the moment. You said Microsoft was just running "more of the same". So I asked: "When was the last time Microsoft purchased two Publishers?" Self-evidently, Microsoft has changed its approach with Xbox this generation. How is investing USD$77 billion into Xbox "more of the same"?What have the studios they already bought done?...
Um, no. Where did I say such a thing? But they won't be the only one with heavy hitters. That's a fact! Starfield will be a juggernaut in and of itself. Not to mention HB II, Avowed and host of others. You're missing the forest for the trees.You are straight up delusional. Did Sony first party forget how to make games?
Selling consoles is Sony's game. Hands down. But, this gen is changing rapidly. Console sales arent the be all anymore. Subscription and cloud services are. And Sony simply isn't prepared to deal with a 2 trillion dollar company with a hugely successful gaming service and the best cloud service out of all the big players. Like it or not, that's where gaming is heading. Consoles will probably still be part of all the ecosystems. But only one company has geared itself to be ahead of all the others in game and cloud services.What have the studios they already bought done? It's best we wait and see but I'm betting PlayStation will still sell more units
Sony's doomed every gen.Sony doomed?
This is a very childish post.Because of MS? LOL
Nintendo has been kicking Sony and MS ass for the last 3 years, and has 100% conquered Japan, the second biggest country for gaming.
Sony and MS are just fighting for second place.
Console sales havent been stagnate for generations. Growth is in PC, mobile, going multiplatform and sub plans.Selling consoles is Sony's game. Hands down. But, this gen is changing rapidly. Console sales arent the be all anymore. Subscription and cloud services are. And Sony simply isn't prepared to deal with a 2 trillion dollar company with a hugely successful gaming service and the best cloud service out of all the big players. Like it or not, that's where gaming is heading. Consoles will probably still be part of all the ecosystems. But only one company has geared itself to be ahead of all the others in game and cloud services.
Jesus, they literally can go multiplatform with every game without having to put their games on the competitions platforms. They don't need Sony or Nintendo to do it. And can still put their games on virtually every screen you own. Plus they have well over a decade of gaming industry experience and hugely successful IP's to go with it! Not to mention they have more money than the other two.
The writing is literally on the wall.
PS5 sold out as soon as it was available for its first 2 years on the marketSelling consoles is Sony's game. Hands down. But, this gen is changing rapidly. Console sales arent the be all anymore. Subscription and cloud services are. And Sony simply isn't prepared to deal with a 2 trillion dollar company with a hugely successful gaming service and the best cloud service out of all the big players. Like it or not, that's where gaming is heading. Consoles will probably still be part of all the ecosystems. But only one company has geared itself to be ahead of all the others in game and cloud services.
Jesus, they literally can go multiplatform with every game without having to put their games on the competitions platforms. They don't need Sony or Nintendo to do it. And can still put their games on virtually every screen you own. Plus they have well over a decade of gaming industry experience and hugely successful IP's to go with it! Not to mention they have more money than the other two.
The writing is literally on the wall.
No, you misunderstood me...Sorry, no, stay on topic. You're posting this kind of rhetoric in multiple threads at the moment. You said Microsoft was just running "more of the same". So I asked: "When was the last time Microsoft purchased two Publishers?" Self-evidently, Microsoft has changed its approach with Xbox this generation. How is investing USD$77 billion into Xbox "more of the same"?
Xbox 360 BC is basically part of gamepass for the most part when the entry console doesn't have a DVD/BR drive. Most people won't search for X360 games to download in 2022 and people with the console can't slot their DVD's in (also true for people with Xbox One physical games), so it's down to whether these are games on gamepass or not.
That's literally bunch of assumptionsUm, no. Where did I say such a thing? But they won't be the only one with heavy hitters. That's a fact! Starfield will be a juggernaut in and of itself. Not to mention HB II, Avowed and host of others. You're missing the forest for the trees.
That's literally bunch of assumptions
Hellblade is a sequel of a indie game that didn't even sold a million copies.
What makes you think it will be a juggernaut? Just because microft bought ninja theory?
You need to chill out dude. Let the games do the talk.
funny that before these people really hate exclusive but now itseems they already proud over it despite nothing promising shown yet.And when the heavy hitter xbox exclusives start rolling in next year, it's over imo.
WhenThey'll care when Starfield and the next Elder Scrolls release, or DOOM, etc. It's death by a thousand cuts. Each franchise may not be a big deal, but combined it gives gamers a real logical reason to support Xbox. Add CoD on top of that and this could be a nightmare scenario for Sony especially since MS is charging ahead full speed making sure their games are available to be played anywhere.
Where did you see the insult?Lol, you're just describing yourself here. You just insult me because you don't like what I say. Grow up man. If you disagree with what I say then let's have a discussion, but insulting posters will get you nowhere.
Selling consoles is Sony's game. Hands down. But, this gen is changing rapidly. Console sales arent the be all anymore. Subscription and cloud services are. And Sony simply isn't prepared to deal with a 2 trillion dollar company with a hugely successful gaming service and the best cloud service out of all the big players. Like it or not, that's where gaming is heading. Consoles will probably still be part of all the ecosystems. But only one company has geared itself to be ahead of all the others in game and cloud services.
Jesus, they literally can go multiplatform with every game without having to put their games on the competitions platforms. They don't need Sony or Nintendo to do it. And can still put their games on virtually every screen you own. Plus they have well over a decade of gaming industry experience and hugely successful IP's to go with it! Not to mention they have more money than the other two.
The writing is literally on the wall.
What I meant is...People will search for whatever game they are interested in, so I’m not sure what you mean.
I recently purchased Zone of the Enders, Ninja Gaiden Black, and Final Fantasy X, which are all backwards compatible games I purchased from the store. They are not on GamePass.
What's "grown up" about this whole topic then?This is a very childish post.
PlayStation has all those boxes tick and more.Selling consoles is Sony's game. Hands down. But, this gen is changing rapidly. Console sales arent the be all anymore. Subscription and cloud services are. And Sony simply isn't prepared to deal with a 2 trillion dollar company with a hugely successful gaming service and the best cloud service out of all the big players. Like it or not, that's where gaming is heading. Consoles will probably still be part of all the ecosystems. But only one company has geared itself to be ahead of all the others in game and cloud services.
Jesus, they literally can go multiplatform with every game without having to put their games on the competitions platforms. They don't need Sony or Nintendo to do it. And can still put their games on virtually every screen you own. Plus they have well over a decade of gaming industry experience and hugely successful IP's to go with it! Not to mention they have more money than the other two.
The writing is literally on the wall.
Yes, consoles is the gaming platform where Sony focuses. But their main business specifically is to sell games (1st and 3rd party) for these consoles, not the console sales themselves.Selling consoles is Sony's game. Hands down. But, this gen is changing rapidly. Console sales arent the be all anymore.
Sony has the most successful game subscription and we have no data about other cloud gaming being more popular than Sony's one.Subscription and cloud services are. And Sony simply isn't prepared to deal with a 2 trillion dollar company with a hugely successful gaming service and the best cloud service out of all the big players.
Game subscriptions and cloud gaming are a small part of the gaming market and the estimations for the next 5 years or so is that will grow a bit but the rest of the market will also grow, so will continue being a small part of the gaming market.Like it or not, that's where gaming is heading.
If we look at the market numbers written in the wall they say Nintendo and Sony sell way consoles, and sell way more games for their consoles, and their exclusives sell way more and win more awards, and that their game subs have more subs.Consoles will probably still be part of all the ecosystems. But only one company has geared itself to be ahead of all the others in game and cloud services.
Jesus, they literally can go multiplatform with every game without having to put their games on the competitions platforms. They don't need Sony or Nintendo to do it. And can still put their games on virtually every screen you own. Plus they have well over a decade of gaming industry experience and hugely successful IP's to go with it! Not to mention they have more money than the other two.
The writing is literally on the wall.
8th generation I'd imagine.I hate Nintendo but in what world PlayStation is #1 and Switch is #2?
You're wrong. Hellblade sold over a million units. Do a little research before posting lies.That's literally bunch of assumptions
Hellblade is a sequel of a indie game that didn't even sold a million copies.
What makes you think it will be a juggernaut? Just because microft bought ninja theory?
You need to chill out dude. Let the games do the talk.
360 beat PS3 that generation....yeah you are a delusional fanboy cous the PS3 won, with a higer price and it came a year later and MS was screaming: the first one who reach the 10 mil. sold has won...But even with RRoD and many buying a new second ore third xbox360, yet they lost.360 beat PS3 that generation. by the time ps3 caught up the gen was over, the damage was done already. 360 was the console for that gen in mind share and sales for the most part. I dont see xbox winning again though since its a different team these days.
edit:i got a delusional fanboy mad, truth hurts lol
Halo? Are you serious telling me Halo? Dude Halo is dying, and the killer is 343, and MS is letting them do it.Sony got games on PC that's a good strategy for the long term. I think sony needs a good racing game to compete against forza horizon series. One shooter as well against halo. Apart from that, they should do ps2 ps3 full backward compatibility.
Starfield, TES, Fallout and Doom are juggernauts. Hellblade 2 is not. Fable and Avowed, I think it’ll depend on positive word of mouth and rave reviews.Um, no. Where did I say such a thing? But they won't be the only one with heavy hitters. That's a fact! Starfield will be a juggernaut in and of itself. Not to mention HB II, Avowed and host of others. You're missing the forest for the trees.
Microsoft already has the best ecosystem and the best game subscription on the market. They'll also have an insane amount of top tier devs after the bid goes through. Divy all that up, and you've got perfect storm, so to speak. Why do you think Sony is so worried now? Don't delude yourself and deflect from what's in front of you. Sony will have stuff competition in the coming months. It could very well change the status quo in the coming years.
Thanks for the info. I’m glad you specifically reached out to me and let me know these things.When
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I don't predict the future, I'm sorry
I'm not interested in posts like this.
When it happens, then it happens
And we're talking about now
Yeah shure boy, Sony is staying the same....the delusion is strong with this one...I always find it strange how people can't see the potential Xbox boom.
Sony is incredibly strong right now, but Xbox is building and adapting, while Sony is staying the same.
Again you are wrong like i sayd in an answer in another post of you where you said almost exactly the same argument.I know it did but it was too late by then, the damage was done and the next gen was about to start. 360 beat ps3 that gen in mind share and sales. catching up when its irrelevant doesn't matter.
Do you remember the 'PS4 has no games' memes from the first year or two of last gen?, exactly.
Problem is those memes did exist.
I am starting to think we have more people on here that are only in it to see one company or the other die off rather than all three thrive. Too many are quick to go negative. It's not about gaming... ...it is about their chosen coproration "winning." Winning what? The ability to screw us all over with little choice in how and what gaming media we consume.I didn't realize the discourse on gaf was that bad these days. This place is chockful of fanboys.
If Halo is dying, Sony still doesn't have anything close to competing with it. That's why they were paying off devs for exclusive content and such in COD, Destiny, etc. What do you think will be easier? Building a marquee fps from scratch or reviving a dying Halo? Clearly the latter so Sony is still in trouble on the fps front, especially after they lose COD in a few years.Halo? Are you serious telling me Halo? Dude Halo is dying, and the killer is 343, and MS is letting them do it.
I don't think xbox ever gets close to sony like the 360 days ever again. I just don't see how. They are in different levels. Sony are forecasting 18m for the year. These are numbers Microsoft has never reached even during its peak with 360. They don't have the same selling power and never have.
I don't think xbox ever gets close to sony like the 360 days ever again. I just don't see how. They are in different levels. Sony are forecasting 18m for the year. These are numbers Microsoft has never reached even during its peak with 360. They don't have the same selling power and never have.
3-4 years from now with Game Pass even bigger and if their 1st party is churning games out, will be interesting to see. Gamers at the end of the day don’t have the kind of loyalty us GAF dorks do.I don't think xbox ever gets close to sony like the 360 days ever again. I just don't see how. They are in different levels. Sony are forecasting 18m for the year. These are numbers Microsoft has never reached even during its peak with 360. They don't have the same selling power and never have.
Sony is focusing on today's gamer 1stIf Halo is dying, Sony still doesn't have anything close to competing with it. That's why they were paying off devs for exclusive content and such in COD, Destiny, etc. What do you think will be easier? Building a marquee fps from scratch or reviving a dying Halo? Clearly the latter so Sony is still in trouble on the fps front, especially after they lose COD in a few years.
It's not the same landscape though. In the 360 days Game Pass or PS Now didn't exist. Now they do. Microsoft is going beyond Xbox. Sony is trying to do the same, but they are well behind on those fronts. Sony relies almost entirely on PS5 sales to generate revenue. Microsoft has diversified a lot better and can rely on other fronts rather than solely Xbox sales.
So 3-4 years from now when MS has to switch from subscriber-building and bleeding money to turning a profit. They’re doing the same thing as Netflix and Hulu, build up a subscriber base before pulling the rug and 2-3x the price.3-4 years from now with Game Pass even bigger and if their 1st party is churning games out, will be interesting to see. Gamers at the end of the day don’t have the kind of loyalty us GAF dorks do.
That’s weird because Xbox has been quite profitable the past few years but I suppose you are an expert. Man that sucks though that you can still buy all those games. Sounds like a real dilemma. Shrug.So 3-4 years from now when MS has to switch from subscriber-building and bleeding money to turning a profit. They’re doing the same thing as Netflix and Hulu, build up a subscriber base before pulling the rug and 2-3x the price.
Modern gaming is amazing, people forking over money to not end up not owning anything.
I am starting to think we have more people on here that are only in it to see one company or the other die off rather than all three thrive. Too many are quick to go negative. It's not about gaming... ...it is about their chosen coproration "winning." Winning what? The ability to screw us all over with little choice in how and what gaming media we consume.