elrechazado
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Exactly. Op, you've got a flawed premise here, because the Steelers were not protesting.
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Steelers QB Roethlisberger regrets not being on field for anthem; releases statement
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oo7
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You right. Dick move for sure. Didn't realize Tomlin had already commented beforehand.
smokeymicpot
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It is. I think it started in 2009.
Widdle Puppy
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What a shitty person
Yes, users on here have a very authoritarian streak.. I dont agree with Big Ben but he has the right to say it and hes not saying that his teammates or anyone in the NFL shouldnt be allowed to sit for the anthem. Hes expressing his personal stance on it and is calling for unity while supporting his teammates. I dont agree with it but this whole thing is about freedom of speech.
Bumblebeetuna
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Why weren't all these people protesting it before Trump said some dumb shit? Just makes me respect Kaep even more for what he was doing. Hopefully it doesn't change the narrative on why Kaep started doing it into anti-Trump BS.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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People on a forum calling Rape-burger a dummy isn't affecting his free speech
RespectThySole
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Man fuck Big Ben
therealist
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How is that different from people on here saying they hope some players kneel for the anthem? Ben's not forcing anybody to do anything.
Because he's the QB and Captain of his team where members in it wanted to kneel or sit, not a GAF member.
therealist
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He still never forced people to stand, as he doesn't have the power to. He said the word hoped.
You know what's super sad? The NFL could straight up stop playing the anthem or release a PR piece about their support for the black lives matter movement OR against racism and police brutality in general and their ratings would not suffer at all.
This is the same league that sends star players to premature deaths, that sometimes turns young men into literal monsters, a league that is so detrimental to the health of its players that many of us viewers wouldn't let our prospective children play the sport... yet we all still watch.
The racists might get angry if the NFL took a hard stance in favor of social justice, but they won't stop watching. The ratings won't fall. So why not just do it?
Why don't Tom Brady and Bill Belichick kneel? What a message that would send.
This is the same league that sends star players to premature deaths, that sometimes turns young men into literal monsters, a league that is so detrimental to the health of its players that many of us viewers wouldn't let our prospective children play the sport... yet we all still watch.
The racists might get angry if the NFL took a hard stance in favor of social justice, but they won't stop watching. The ratings won't fall. So why not just do it?
Why don't Tom Brady and Bill Belichick kneel? What a message that would send.
Latvian Hitman
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Oh, is this thread about the facts straight or having a meaningful discussion about Trump vs. the NFL? I thought it existed for the sole purpose of shitting on Roethlisberger.
SliceSabre
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Fuck that sexual harasser/rapist, nobody gives a shit what you say Ben.
Never said he forced anyone. By "hoping" he's drawing a line, and he's on the wrong side of it while at the same time saying they were showing unity. He can say as he wishes, yes, but by saying he "hopes they do otherwise in the future" is diminishing the purpose of their protests and undermining the message.
In other words it's saying "let's move on" as though there's no reason to do it at all.
Catchpenny
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Honestly, Big Ben is such a dumbass that I feel better not being on the same side of this issue as him.
AyaisMUsikWhore
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Fixed. I want him off my team so badly
Gentleman Jack
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Pretty much my thoughts.
Ben Roethlisberger is an idiot and a bad person. His opinion on this was bound to be bad. What I find hilarious and incredibly stupid on his part is that he is essentially undermining his head coach. Tomlin intentionally stayed in the tunnel so that players wouldn't have to deal with who's standing and who is kneeling, and by coming out with this statement Ben's destroying that whole idea.
I have the feeling that if he were a black wide receiver, there'd be a lot of talk about him being a distraction or a locker room cancer.
Edit: I should make that last part clear. I mean that if he were a black wide receiver going against his coach like this, not on this issue.
I have the feeling that if he were a black wide receiver, there'd be a lot of talk about him being a distraction or a locker room cancer.
Edit: I should make that last part clear. I mean that if he were a black wide receiver going against his coach like this, not on this issue.
Villanueva has apologized for what he did and said he respects his teammates and doesn't have a problem if they take a knee. He's already embarrassed by the photos of him from yesterday.
Latvian Hitman
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It is. As a matter of fact, the dept. of defense pays out millions of (taxpayer) dollars to the league to have the players stand during the anthem and have special, stadium-wide ceremonies pre-game, etc. Prior to 2009, the players were almost always in the locker room when the anthem played.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/defense-department-paid-5-4-million-nfl-honor-troops/
https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/yp89dj/stephen-a-smith-points-out-nfls-paid-patriotism-problem
Kind of puts this whole thing in a new light. Even the "patriotic" players who stand with hand-on-heart during the anthem are (knowingly or unknowingly) simply taking part in a shallow marketing ploy.
BlueTsunami
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No half measures, Tomlin.
I still think Seymour thought it was a lineman that grabbed him, but either way still hilarious after all these years.
airmangataosenai
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Not like I could lose any respect for a rapist anyway.
Gentleman Jack
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"Actually it's about ethics in sports broadcasting."
yep
Kaep blackballed for being a decent human being and Big Ben will be a HoF'er despite being a rapist
the NFL!
DontBeThatGuy
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It's "paid patriotism". The flag has been bought. (and the hypocrites who normally don't give it a second thought only give a shit when it's to squash minority dissent)
Winning cures everything. This is the NFL after all. That said Ben is a piece of shit.
I feel like the optics of this situation are different for the Steelers. I think it's pretty stupid to relate sitting/kneeling during the national anthem with anything resembling anti-American / military sentiment. The real message behind the gesture is so unbelievably worthwhile, that I urge every player to take part in it - and commend everyone who does. Having said that, I'm not sure how I'd feel if my teammate on the field was a veteran who served three tours in Afghanistan. Furthermore, I'm not sure how I'd feel after seeing said person uncomfortable enough with the team's decision to do so - that he felt the need to wander onto the field by himself during the national anthem. So in that sense, I can empathize with where Ben is coming from.
Having said that, the right thing to do in this situation - as the captain of this team and a fellow player in the league - would have been to bite your tongue and not make the moment about yourself. This whole ordeal at a league level is a collective protest, and for something that is REAL and in need of as much spotlight as humanly possible, so to do what he did definitely rubs me the wrong way. So that's where I have a huge issue with Ben's statements.
Having said that, the right thing to do in this situation - as the captain of this team and a fellow player in the league - would have been to bite your tongue and not make the moment about yourself. This whole ordeal at a league level is a collective protest, and for something that is REAL and in need of as much spotlight as humanly possible, so to do what he did definitely rubs me the wrong way. So that's where I have a huge issue with Ben's statements.
I'm assuming you purposely left out the part about the woman bragging to a friend/co-worker about sleeping with him and even said that she hoped she was pregnant.
how would you feel if you released this statement only for your veteran teammate to release his statement regretting being on the field and feeling as if he threw his coach and teammates under the bus while being supportive of any of his teammates who choose to kneel during the anthem?
Uppity black man that has the second greatest receiving numbers in the history of the NFL? No Hall of Fame. Gotta teach that boy a lesson.
Peacefully kneeling black man? Never gonna throw another pass in the NFL.
White rapist? Cover-up. Icon. HoF lock.
Hate to break it to you, Pittsburgh fan, but that was the first accusation. The second one was two years later where the responding officer called the victim a bitch, never questioned Roethlisberger, and then resigned after the media frenzy.
empty apology. he knew what he was doing when he went out there.
AngmarsKing701
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The Steelers were embarrassing in every facet yesterday, from this horrible divisive approach to this anthem issue to the terrible game they played. And it's continuing into the week, with Ben sounding asinine as fuck.
Go take a civics class, Ben.
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Go take a civics class, Ben.
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