bitbydeath
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I heard the code name was “NotGonnaHappen”
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The plan to move Xbox games to other platforms is codenamed "Latitude" internally
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Moridianae
Member
It's really astounding the roundabouts Jez threw himself for in this whole thing.
"Oh, it's just these three" and this article reads like a massive defeat for him.
Sony is outselling the Xbox by, at this point, a ridiculous amount. Their systems aren't really moving. Game Pass has no growth and is frustrating or even outright killing developers.
Satya is tired of the money sink and he and corporate Microsoft have pulled the "Ghoul Lasso" out to reel Phil and Xbox in, even if its a direction he(Phil) doesn't want to go.
"Oh, it's just these three" and this article reads like a massive defeat for him.
Sony is outselling the Xbox by, at this point, a ridiculous amount. Their systems aren't really moving. Game Pass has no growth and is frustrating or even outright killing developers.
Satya is tired of the money sink and he and corporate Microsoft have pulled the "Ghoul Lasso" out to reel Phil and Xbox in, even if its a direction he(Phil) doesn't want to go.
ChorizoPicozo
Banned
tim dogo said double fine is going to be closed....i can't believe it.
iHaunter
Member
He gave Phil 20 shots and he missed all of them. He has to take the reins to make sure Xbox doesn't destroy the Microsoft name. Bad publicity and losing shares costs way more than failing bad games.
This maybe true, but 2025 is shaping up to be a big year for Playstation also since it's the platform 30 year anniversary. I'm sure they have surprises in-store.
Frwrd
Member
So is XboxI’m dead
LordCBH
Member
Probably hunting down those last achievos in redfall. When he finishes it the games population will drop from 5 to 4
Unknown Soldier
Member
It's very likely he will be 'resigning' soon to 'spend more time with his family' considering that he's completely vanished and now they trot out Sarah Bond when they do PR
Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
Let’s be honest, even without Phil and xbox - MS is doing a great job destroying its own name.
T0minator
Member
It's interesting how Xbox didn't really have appealing exclusive 1st party games for years. For over a decade, but once they actually start to get studios releasing potentially quality stuff...they're releasing them on PS. The time of no games for Xbox is definitely over
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
No, I mean they had nothing, only sold about 80 million consoles in the past 10 years, I mean I doubt they had a single IP that people wanted to buy. Probably people bought them to play Nintendo games but we're confused.
Ashamam
Member
You seem to be. The decisions MS are making are because of this generation. If they had of maintained the prior generations momentum we wouldn't be having all these discussions. But yes you are right in that they do have IP people want to play, pretty sure thats why MS bought those IP in the first place.No, I mean they had nothing, only sold about 80 million consoles in the past 10 years, I mean I doubt they had a single IP that people wanted to buy. Probably people bought them to play Nintendo games but we're confused.
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THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
Seriously though, I get that some IP's and games have underdelivered, but the narrative that I was responding to that MS literally had no desireable games for a decade, is bunk.
midnightAI
Member
Microsoft's next showcase is going to be very interesting, they used to be full of 'Console Exclusive' (and 'World Premier' of course)
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Ashamam
Member
Probably should have read the post before a bit closer. Yes 10 years is hyperbole. But 5 years wouldn't be. And thats all it takes.
Klayzer
Member
It's not that hard. The games wasn't good enough for players to switch their preferred platform for.
Now, with those same games coming to a console that a lot of gamers are invested in, some will give them a look. No narrative war shit needed.
Klayzer
Member
They're always playing the victim card for Microsoft.
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
Victim has zero to do with it, facts matter.
Saying ms had zero games worth buying past 10 years = false
The whole "if they say something positive about ms" means they are playing the victim card is bs.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Talking before the Bethesda purchase they didn’t have much TBH. If they could pull off a new Elder Scrolls that had the quality Rockstar/Sony exclusives are known for it would sell like crazy.
It’s all on MS.
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
They quite a few studios working on some good stuff. May be too little too late overall though in terms of this gen's hardware war, unless something changes (price, availability, a gimmick, something nobody else has, etc)
Kokoloko85
Member
Halo, Hellblade 2 and Starfield. This will break all delusions that Xbox isnt going 3rd party
cebri.one
Member
Some people aren't taking this news well
He is at the bargaining stage. Once Starfield is announced for PS5, we'll get to a new stage.
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T0minator
Member
No, I mean they had nothing, only sold about 80 million consoles in the past 10 years, I mean I doubt they had a single IP that people wanted to buy. Probably people bought them to play Nintendo games but we're confused.
C'mon, where did I say they had nothing? Don't turn this into some console war bs please. I never said they had zero games. I said they didn't really have appealing games.
That is true the big system sellers haven't been there for a long time. Did they have some great games, yes. Did they have a lot of appealing games...not really.
Hence the "they didn't really have appealing 1st party exclusives"
Now they're improving on that issue they've had
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Whether it's a good idea or a bad idea is irrelevant.
It's their ONLY option.
It's their ONLY option.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Of course that idiot would limit replies.....
He is at the bargaining stage. Once Starfield is announced for PS5, we'll get to a new stage.
I won't lie seeing that clown lose his grift will be a legit joy.
It's funny when people blame consumers for a mega corp's failures.
Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
Well, it's been 3 years and nothing has been announced. I think I heard that a game called 'Kiln' or something like that. That was a prototype that a few DF developers made in a couple weeks during their yearly break from developing Psychonauts 2. Kiln was unveiled and was a MP game I believe.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
This is Opinion, not news or reporting. Might want to add that to the thread title.The plan to move Xbox games to other platforms is codenamed "Latitude" internally, and I know there's debate and unease at Microsoft about whether or not this is a good idea. More upcoming Microsoft-owned games slated for PlayStation are already being developed. While it's true Microsoft is a prolific publisher on PlayStation already, it has typically revolved around specific franchises like Minecraft. From what I've heard, Microsoft is pushing for no "red line" for what games could come to PlayStation, and it all revolves around Satya Nadella and CFO Amy Hood's plans to increase every department's margins.
Microsoft's quest for short-term $$$ is doing long-term damage to Windows, Surface, Xbox, and beyond
Microsoft has made a range of baffling decisions and awful mis-steps recently. You can trace everything back to insatiable desire for money.www.windowscentral.com
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Serious question, how many of these podcasts do you listen to?
{insert code here}
Member
None of the games i listed have launched in the last 10 years, unless you include MCC but thats really for the Bungie made Halo games.
The only surprise for me here is, how slow MS is moving through that transition from being a player in the console market to pure game publishing.
I assume this must be a long term strategy which did not just start in 2017, when GamePass was introduced. My guess would be, the idea did grow while creating the 8th console generation.
Console games have been bad for MS since late 7th gen, starting around 2011/2012 and they never recovered.
There is just no way, they buy AB for 69 bn. while in year 10 of bad hardware sales without the intent of shutting the hardware down.
Admitting this would hurt sales in the meantime but assuming all this, they should start to hurry up a bit, no?
The real issue for me is, while waiting for the deal to go through, they could have prepared it in the background to pull the trigger day one of approval.
Instead they look like they are still sitting in bed, a bit late even for a Sunday morning, yawning and looking where the damn slippers did go this time…
I assume this must be a long term strategy which did not just start in 2017, when GamePass was introduced. My guess would be, the idea did grow while creating the 8th console generation.
Console games have been bad for MS since late 7th gen, starting around 2011/2012 and they never recovered.
There is just no way, they buy AB for 69 bn. while in year 10 of bad hardware sales without the intent of shutting the hardware down.
Admitting this would hurt sales in the meantime but assuming all this, they should start to hurry up a bit, no?
The real issue for me is, while waiting for the deal to go through, they could have prepared it in the background to pull the trigger day one of approval.
Instead they look like they are still sitting in bed, a bit late even for a Sunday morning, yawning and looking where the damn slippers did go this time…
ChorizoPicozo
Banned
The Tim dogo thing pop up in my feed. it lasted like 13 minutes.
Because the death of Xbox is a historic event I've been listening to more podcast to understand the sick mind of those individuals.
Xboxtwo/defying duke
Colin's podcast.
The algorithm recommend me:
BRAP (they have a financial expert in the panel)
and the clips on twatter.
I don't listened to the entire podcasts, only to the relevant bits. so, a 3 hours podcast is more like a 45 minutes
iHaunter
Member
They hit 3 trillion in the stock market. So that would be incorrect.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I think the good Dr. is taking too much of his own medicine and meant to say Xbox, not MS.
Cause you'd have to be real daft to think that MS, as a whole, is doing bad in any way.