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[clintar]

how stupid

 

[THE DUCK]

Gonna be interesting too see how it does now. Some huge added value being able to use it on PC as well.

It doesn't matter. Even if it starts to sell, pretty much guaranteed Sony won't produce another unit. What's in the stores will eventually sell and that will be it.
Considering the price tag, cost of adapter, and missing features, I don't expect this to suddenly sell out. It will help once the fire sake pricing hits.

 

[Ogbert]

You pay Sony £60 for the privilege of realising you should have purchased PC VR or a Meta.

 

[Dr. Claus]

You pay Sony £60 for the privilege of realising you should have purchased PC VR or a Meta.

Nah, I get to spend 60 and enjoy both psvr2 exclusives and pc exclusives. Best of both worlds. If I bought a pcvr or meta, I would have had less options.

 

[Ogbert]

Nah, I get to spend 60 and enjoy both psvr2 exclusives and pc exclusives. Best of both worlds. If I bought a pcvr or meta, I would have had less options.

Er, if you purchased PC VR you would have access to Steam and Meta is cable free.

PSVR2 is a bust. It’s an now an overpriced PC headset that gives you access to a couple of PS5 VR games that you need the console for regardless.

They won’t produce another unit. This is Sony done with VR.

 

[R6Rider]

Er, if you purchased PC VR you would have access to Steam and Meta is cable free.

PSVR2 is a bust. It’s an now an overpriced PC headset that gives you access to a couple of PS5 VR games that you need the console for regardless.

They won’t produce another unit. This is Sony done with VR.

LMAO you got shut down immediately after your lame ass attempt at trolling and now are attempting to double down.

 

[Minsc]

I would assume it's because there are no PCVR games that currently support those.

Quest Pro supports eye tracking though and it works with PC VR games that support it.

 

[Ogbert]

LMAO you got shut down immediately after your lame ass attempt at trolling and now are attempting to double down.

Double down?

Are you seriously so deluded that you think this is some genius Sony move? Sure, if you *have* a Sony headset now then this is a nice addition. But it’s not going to suddenly make the PSVR an attractive proposition for someone looking for a headset. That’s still clearly the Meta or any cheaper PC headset. Plus, it’s gimped the one benefit of the PSVR, being eye tracking.

 

[Davevil]

me playing imaginary VR's blockbuster

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

No PCVR game works with auto/RTX HDR?

HDR is hardware dependent. There are one or two other headsets for PC VR (high end mostly digital collaboration/BIM reviews). One of the PiMax headsets support HDR, but other than that there are no other consumer models that do.

 

[iHaunter]

I think that if anything this reflects the opposite of that.

It's a desperation move to try to shed their remaining unsold PSVR2 inventory. They won't be making a penny on any software from this move.

Except the for Sony games that're on PC.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Er, if you purchased PC VR you would have access to Steam and Meta is cable free.

PSVR2 is a bust. It’s an now an overpriced PC headset that gives you access to a couple of PS5 VR games that you need the console for regardless.

They won’t produce another unit. This is Sony done with VR.

You wouldn’t have access to ps5 vr exclusives

If you don’t care about the cable, it’s a better headset anyways

 

[sendit]

This is going to breath new life in to this for me. It's been collecting dust since a month after launch.

 

[cyberheater]

For folks that have a Meta Quest 3 and a PSVR2. How do they compare visually?

 

[Minsc]

HDR is hardware dependent. There are one or two other headsets for PC VR (high end mostly digital collaboration/BIM reviews). One of the PiMax headsets support HDR, but other than that there are no other consumer models that do.

I think Apple's headset supporting HDR (and Dolby Vision on top of that) is definitely something that will influence more PC VR to have it going forward. I'd be surprised if there's not any newer PC VR headsets announced with HDR support later this year to be releasing next year.

 

[Calverz]

“PS VR2 was designed from the ground up specifically for PS5 – so you’ll notice that some key features, like HDR, headset feedback, eye tracking, adaptive triggers, and haptic feedback (other than rumble), are not available when playing on PC.”

and £50 for the pc adaptor?

Do Sony want this thing selling or not? Absolutely hopeless.

 

[Minsc]

For folks that have a Meta Quest 3 and a PSVR2. How do they compare visually?

To oversimplify it:

PSVR2:
+ Perfect blacks
+ HDR (well not so much for this adapter), better colors/contrast
- Mura issues

Quest
+ Much more in focus (nearly no weird visual issues) / larger sweet spot
- Bad blacks
+ Better motion clarity

 

[hououinkyouma00]

You pay Sony £60 for the privilege of realising you should have purchased PC VR or a Meta.

Lol wut?
I'll be paying $60 so that I can have what is for me the best of both worlds. I get to play stuff like RE Village, RE4, and Gran Turismo (which is the main reason I bought it in the first place combined with the ridiculous deal on PlayStation Direct right now), and I get to play PCVR stuff like Half Life Alyx which I've never gotten to finish all on a beautiful OLED panel. Counting in the Netflix I would have ended up paying for anyways I will have paid roughly $400 for the PSVR2, a Logitech G29, and the adapter.

What is with the recent hate boner for anything Sony/PlayStation lately?

 

[cyberheater]

To oversimplify it:

PSVR2:
+ Perfect blacks
+ HDR (well not so much for this adapter), better colors/contrast
- Mura issues

Quest
+ Much more in focus (nearly no weird visual issues) / larger sweet spot
- Bad blacks
+ Better motion clarity

Thank you. Given how much I love dark VR games then it seems like PSVR2 might be a good choice. I still keep my original Quest 1 which is OLED but the resolution is quite low.

 

[analog_future]

Except the for Sony games that're on PC.

There’s no Sony VR games on PC

 

[dotnotbot]

“PS VR2 was designed from the ground up specifically for PS5 – so you’ll notice that some key features, like HDR, headset feedback, eye tracking, adaptive triggers, and haptic feedback (other than rumble), are not available when playing on PC.”

and £50 for the pc adaptor?

Do Sony want this thing selling or not? Absolutely hopeless.

These features in order to work have to be supported by games and platform.

 

[Three]

Quest ecosystem seems healthy IMO and games like AC Nexus and Asgard Wrath 2 are what you describe. Sony basically released one game and was like, "welp, that didn't work" and abandoned it. Worse than Vita.

It wasn't one game. AC nexus and Asgard Wrath was 2 is that an abundance of full length experiences in comparison? PSVR2 had GT7, Horizon COTM, Resident Evil 4, RE Village, Switchback etc. It had more big games. It just didn't get mainstream appeal like Quests lower price and that's OK. It wasn't a lack of games or support in comparison though. They'll sell hardware without the loss and continue on with the multiplatform releases but the VR market isn't getting the support that regular games get. No escaping that.

 

[Three]

You pay Sony £60 for the privilege of realising you should have purchased PC VR or a Meta.

What if I told you PSVR2 is now "PCVR" and "PSVR" at the same time. Who manufactures and sells this "PC VR" hardware anyhow that you're comparing it to and at what cost?

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

I think Apple's headset supporting HDR (and Dolby Vision on top of that) is definitely something that will influence more PC VR to have it going forward. I'd be surprised if there's not any newer PC VR headsets announced with HDR support later this year to be releasing next year.

It would be nice and I think the effect works if you have enough horsepower driving it. Using the PiMax Crystal (or whatever its called) for 15 minutes at an expo event felt like I was sunbathing.

The Somnium VR1 is also a great piece of hardware as well...coming in around $2200 USD or so (whey they are available). I think it outperforms the PiMax as well.

I do not know any casual (the public consumer) users who have AVP. Several of our clients use them but widespread adoption for this headset at least is looking dire.
I think their next iteration will be a much better value prop and I hope we get one.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

I wonder if the missing features is their way to entice people into buying PS5

 

[nemiroff]

I would assume it's because there are no PCVR games that currently support those.

That's not true though. Multiple PC games support eye-tracking, some headsets are and will support HDR. But the thing about the PSVR2 is that once Sony transitions from the PS5 to the PC domain, they lose control over the loop, making it impossible for them to guarantee support for these features. ..Unless they partner up or something. Idk, perhaps there are even proprietary challenges, or licensing agreements in play.

The Somnium VR1 is also a great piece of hardware as well...coming in around $2200 USD or so (whey they are available). I think it outperforms the PiMax as well.

Not only great, but arguably the best "consumer" type headset, and yes it outperforms the Pimax Crystal (well, idk about the Super version). They both have aspheric glass lenses, but the total throughput and optical clarity (and sweet spot) in the VR1 is supposedly superior. I want one..

 

[Buggy Loop]

I'll finally get to play Alyx

James Sawyer Ford


Hope of Half Life Alyx at launch
If Sony ends up with Half Life Alyx
Probably getting Half Life Alyx
If we end up with Half Life Alyx
Valve hinted at PSVR support guys
Sony should pull games from Steam if I don't get Alyx
Since Sony put games on Steam, no reason Valve don't put Alyx on PSVR2
Sony on Steam, Alyx on PSVR2, please?
Half Life Alyx 2, yea yeah Sony is waiting to announce it
Please launch with Half Life Alyx
Sony should give PC Horizon call of the mountain, but we get Alyx ok?

Your time has come! If you play on PC..

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

James Sawyer Ford


Hope of Half Life Alyx at launch
If Sony ends up with Half Life Alyx
Probably getting Half Life Alyx
If we end up with Half Life Alyx
Valve hinted at PSVR support guys
Sony should pull games from Steam if I don't get Alyx
Since Sony put games on Steam, no reason Valve don't put Alyx on PSVR2
Sony on Steam, Alyx on PSVR2, please?
Half Life Alyx 2, yea yeah Sony is waiting to announce it
Please launch with Half Life Alyx
Sony should give PC Horizon call of the mountain, but we get Alyx ok?

Your time has come! If you play on PC..

Will wait for the ps5 port

 

[Leonidas]

Too little too late, will get Meta Quest instead, no adapter needed, and wireless.

 

[Snake29]

You pay Sony £60 for the privilege of realising you should have purchased PC VR or a Meta.

Why you mad? Comparing $60 with a completely new headset? This will be a no brainer for everyone the PSVR2 and pc.

They will also sell more headset with this news.

 

[iHaunter]

There’s no Sony VR games on PC

That's obviously going to be the move... I mean it's not rocket science.

 

[keefged4]

No HDR? I get why the other features may be "difficult" to implement, but HDR? ffs Sony lol

 

[onnextflix5]

Well that was a bit pointless, why would anyone care if it don’t support all features of the headset lol.

 

[THE DUCK]

If you already own one, this would be worth $60, if you own a vr capable pc.

Fixed it for you.

 

[cyberheater]

No HDR? I get why the other features may be "difficult" to implement, but HDR? ffs Sony lol

Don't think there are any Steam PC VR games that are HDR.

 

[Mindman]

Can't we just force HDR like we can with any Windows game with RTX HDR or Auto HDR? It seems like Windows will see this as an another monitor essentially, right?

 

[OverHeat]

Can't we just force HDR like we can with any Windows game with RTX HDR or Auto HDR? It seems like Windows will see this as an another monitor essentially, right?

 

[rodrigolfp]

Don't think there are any Steam PC VR games that are HDR.

There are auto HDR, RTX HDR and modded games with HDR that could work.

 

[JimboJones]

Kinda nice for PS5 owners lumped with this headset and want to breath new life into it.

 

[ArtHands]

I have no idea why some people actually think previously you need a PS5 as part of the equation for this to work. Like seriously thinking that you will just connect a PC to a PS5 to play PCVR games on PSVR2, which part of that makes sense?

 

[Minsc]

I have no idea why some people actually think previously you need a PS5 as part of the equation for this to work. Like seriously thinking that you will just connect a PC to a PS5 to play PCVR games on PSVR2, which part of that makes sense?

It's not that hard a concept and been explained. The exact same PS5 that currently decodes and outputs data to the PSVR2 could do that exact same thing from an app that streams video the exact same way the Quest 3 does without the need of a single adapter. I'm not sure what you don't understand. Logically this is the better solution for Sony as it ensures everyone using the PSVR2 is forced to buy a PS5, which is their goal.

 

[Neofire]

It's not that hard a concept and been explained. The exact same PS5 that currently decodes and outputs data to the PSVR2 could do that exact same thing from an app that streams video the exact same way the Quest 3 does without the need of a single adapter. I'm not sure what you don't understand. Logically this is the better solution for Sony as it ensures everyone using the PSVR2 is forced to buy a PS5, which is their goal.

People think that Sony shouldn't push individuals to buy their platform which is baffling to me. Sony is in the business to sell their hardware and software. I know some want Sony to just completely abandon the PS5 just to prop up the PC community fully and that just isn't going to happen.

 

[ArtHands]

It's not that hard a concept and been explained. The exact same PS5 that currently decodes and outputs data to the PSVR2 could do that exact same thing from an app that streams video the exact same way the Quest 3 does without the need of a single adapter. I'm not sure what you don't understand. Logically this is the better solution for Sony as it ensures everyone using the PSVR2 is forced to buy a PS5, which is their goal.

No offense but that lacks common sense. it drastically increase the price, more complication in terms of process and setup, more latency, physical space and electric power. No sane person will think having both PS5 and PC running concurrently just to play PCVR games on PSVR2 hardware is a feasible idea, when PC users can streamline the process by using a headset that can connect directly to the PC.

 

[ReBurn]

It's good that people have the option to use their PSVR2 headsets on PC. It's an expensive device and this provides more value. I'm not a fan of the price but maybe it's something that could be copied and sold cheaper by a third party.

 

[Kilau]

No offense but that lacks common sense. it drastically increase the price, more complication in terms of process and setup, more latency, physical space and electric power. No sane person will think having both PS5 and PC running concurrently just to play PCVR games on PSVR2 hardware is a feasible idea, when PC users can streamline the process by using a headset that can connect directly to the PC.

It sounds very "sony" which is probably why a few people expected it. Still, this isn't a perfect solution but better to be sure.

 

[Minsc]

No offense but that lacks common sense. it drastically increase the price, more complication in terms of process and setup, more latency, physical space and electric power. No sane person will think having both PS5 and PC running concurrently just to play PCVR games on PSVR2 hardware is a feasible idea, when PC users can streamline the process by using a headset that can connect directly to the PC.

I mean it's almost exactly how it works on the Quest 3. It's cheaper, I'd be able to do it without spending anything. There's no latency involved that would make any difference, it's a fully wired loop. PC > Ethernet > PS5 > PSVR2. Physical space does not change for me. Nor does electricity really, the PS5 would provide the power for the PSVR2 and running a video decoding app isn't going to send the system in to overdrive. Using your fan to cool you down would likely draw more power than adding the PS5 to the equation.

Why do you feel the need to bring this up again when it's been discussed to death and wasn't the outcome? I'm not sure what your goal here is, other than proving your incapable of understanding this would be a solution that ensures Sony sells a PS5 to anyone who intends to use a PSVR2 for PC VR. Which is Sony's goal here, they want people buying games on a PS5.

 

[Solarstrike]

Nice save.

 

[ThatOneGrunt]

I guess this is cool for existing owners. But I don't see this incentivizing PC VR users to buy this headset.

 

[Dr. Claus]

Er, if you purchased PC VR you would have access to Steam and Meta is cable free.

PSVR2 is a bust. It’s an now an overpriced PC headset that gives you access to a couple of PS5 VR games that you need the console for regardless.

They won’t produce another unit. This is Sony done with VR.

So, if I bought a PC VR headset I would have less choice for games... like I just said.

With a PSVR2 headset I get both PC VR games AND PSVR2 games. Not really seeing the downside, but keep on console warring little buddy.

 

[MCplayer]

lol...

Amateur? Ive been a hardcore player for 25 years mate, soon to be 26.