JordanN
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I was gunna say... Sony was at its best when it was backed into a corner
*looks at PS Vita*
Naahhhh
I was gunna say... Sony was at its best when it was backed into a corner
No, but they can be realistic. Xbox would have to sell more than twice what PS4 is selling in the U.S. to do that. There is zero chance in rest of the world. That's not negativity, just common sense.
Well ok... If MS buys exclusivity of all Rockstar games, they might close the gap somewhat in Europe. I don't think even that would push them past Playstation.
It worked for Sony last generation because the PlayStation has brand power outside of the US and the U.K. That's all that MS has, so no it's pretty much impossible for them.Realistically speaking MS can come back. The Rockstar example is a reach but something similar could happen. Acquiring the right studio and a continued focus on 1st party COULD change things. The focus on 1st party is the strategy Sony used last generation and look at them now. And where is the fun in a one horse race? Or is that what people want?
It's never too late. This gen has another 4-6 years left.
Bold prediction: Microsoft will have the most consoles sold when it's all said and done. Will bump this thread in a few years.
Edit: Replying to the post above. Think we'll be adding PS VR to that list soon, along with move and ps eye.
Japanese devs aren't worth less than western indie devs. Japanese devs have less and less reason to touch the xbone. At least last gen it was important for western sales, now that isn't really even needed.
Realistically speaking MS can come back. The Rockstar example is a reach but something similar could happen. Acquiring the right studio and a continued focus on 1st party COULD change things. The focus on 1st party is the strategy Sony used last generation and look at them now. And where is the fun in a one horse race? Or is that what people want?
Nah, the xb1 is doing a lot worse than the 360, particularly germany and nordic countries.
He had nothing to do with the plan other than do his job and advertise the plan just like Nelson.
According to him, he did not agree with some of the policies that were put in place.
I dunno, they seem to be handling backwards compatibility a hell of a lot better.
Realistically speaking MS can come back. The Rockstar example is a reach but something similar could happen. Acquiring the right studio and a continued focus on 1st party COULD change things. The focus on 1st party is the strategy Sony used last generation and look at them now. And where is the fun in a one horse race? Or is that what people want?
It worked for Sony last generation because the PlayStation has brand power outside of the US and the U.K. That's all that MS has, so no it's pretty much impossible for them.
I agree there's a distinction, but there are probably vectors that would be interesting to look at to determine people who are using Steam/GOG/Origin/Uplay/whatever on a PC as their primary "installed/standalone gaming device," vs console users. Even if that method was just sampling/polls. I'm not sure there's a great way to determine the PC gamer's "install base" (Steam accounts that have activated a game and played it in the last year?) but it would be an interesting number to compare to Xbox One and PS4.
I would also agree that these are not necessarily "Microsoft gamers," as Microsoft does not capture any of the revenue for gaming sales on Steam et al. Which is weird -- they certainly dropped the ball there allowing third parties to fill the void, but that's how the cookie crumbled. Still, it's not a total loss for them either. Were it not for games I wouldn't own a $5,000 PC that is hooked up to my big TV. They haven't upsold me on Office, OneDrive, or anything from the Store, nor will they, but they got paid a licensing seat fee, so good for them.
I do think, though, that you'd have to credit that market segment as Microsoft-owned. It uses all of their tech. Those game devs are running Visual Studio, using DirectX, developing on Windows boxes, and selling the results to Windows users. That's owning a platform if I've ever heard it. They really just rely on middlemen to make the machines and distribute the games.
wanna give a reason for prediction brah?I doubt MS has any chance next gen either.
Realistically speaking MS can come back. The Rockstar example is a reach but something similar could happen. Acquiring the right studio and a continued focus on 1st party COULD change things. The focus on 1st party is the strategy Sony used last generation and look at them now. And where is the fun in a one horse race? Or is that what people want?
I do still think that the Xbox will get a sales boost once it drops to 199 to 249.
Just thinking that there are many people out their who owned both last gen systems and just bought the PS4 first this time around (due to all the facts we know ...)
I am not saying that MS will "win" or anything but I think they still have most of these potential "multi-console-customers" in front of them and Sony doesn´t have them anymore.
wanna give a reason for prediction brah?
There is still a large pool of potential customers that don't own any current gen systems at all. So I'm not sure how much importance can really be lended to the idea that XB1 can gain substantial ground from people buying multiple consoles.I do still think that the Xbox will get a sales boost once it drops to 199 to 249.
Just thinking that there are many people out their who owned both last gen systems and just bought the PS4 first this time around (due to all the facts we know ...)
I am not saying that MS will "win" or anything but I think they still have most of these potential "multi-console-customers" in front of them and Sony doesn´t have them anymore.
Even still, there isn't enough to differentiate both consoles. That's the biggest issue. I've brought and sold maybe 4 Xbox one's and I'm on my fifth (I make profit on them so it's no big deal). Personally, I don't like MS exclusives as much as I thought I would have and it constantly bothers me that I've got an extra system going unused. I think both consoles are too similar to justify both, even if you have the money. That in my opinion is a big cause of the problem.
Worldwide or North America?I mean it's going to be almost impossible for Microsoft to catch up to Sony before the generations over, but I do think that they will finish the gen with sales closer to a 1:1 ratio with Sony than they have right now.
Realistically speaking MS can come back. The Rockstar example is a reach but something similar could happen. Acquiring the right studio and a continued focus on 1st party COULD change things. The focus on 1st party is the strategy Sony used last generation and look at them now. And where is the fun in a one horse race? Or is that what people want?
Lol is there a point to suggesting potential outcomes with an absolute 0 percent chance of coming to fruition?RDR2 exclusive + be first with the slim model, have it be REALLY small (>50% smaller), with increased performance and 4K support for new games.
This is where I am. I could easily buy an X1. The wife and I actually went out to buy it one Sunday and came back home with the Rockband 4 Band In A Box bundle. I already have a PS4, PC and Wii U hooked up to the living room TV. I'm out of HDMI ports now. That's how unsure I am about whether or not I need an X1, an HDMI port stopped me. And the 360 was my main console last gen. Microsoft fucked up.
fuck noRDR2 exclusive + be first with the slim model, have it be REALLY small (>50% smaller), with increased performance and 4K support for new games.
I do think, though, that you'd have to credit that market segment as Microsoft-owned. It uses all of their tech. Those game devs are running Visual Studio, using DirectX, developing on Windows boxes, and selling the results to Windows users. That's owning a platform if I've ever heard it. They really just rely on middlemen to make the machines and distribute the games.
Just anecdotal evidence but while many of my friends owned a 360 last gen (many also had a ps3) almost no one own a Xbox one. Live in Sweden.
Worldwide or North America?
Going into next week, starting tomorrow , With Xbox One being $50 more than a PS4 sure as Hell isn't going to help catch up....
It is never going to get remotely close to 1:1 worldwide. The lead is far too massive this late in the game. The only place it has a chance of being close is in North America.Worldwide.
Sony is selling a bundle similar to their Black Friday deal for the next couple weeks of December if I recall correctly.Source?
It is never going to get remotely close to 1:1 worldwide. The lead is far too massive this late in the game. The only place it has a chance of being close is in North America.
Marginally.Probably not no. But I do think the gap will get smaller rather than wider by the end of the generation.
All signs lead to the XB1 having some respectable numbers come the end of this console cycle if they continue on their current improved trajectory.The only question was whether the Xbone can carve out a decent niche for itself. And we won't really know that for sure until the end of 2016 or beginning of 2017. So far, the Xbone's chances look fairly decent.
This is pure delusion, there's nothing realistic about it. Reality has nothing to do with what people want.
People really think that MS had a shot on catching up on a 2:1 sales difference? Has such a thing ever happened with any console in the history of video games?
*looks at PS Vita*
Naahhhh
Bless your heart!I'm an optimist
The real question is what can Sony do to catch up to the biggest Halo launch and fastest-selling Xbox One exclusive game to-date, with more than $400 million in global sales of Halo 5: Guardians?
I'm not saying Xbox one is bad, but I wish I had gotten the Rockband in a box instead lol, you made the right call. This isn't a slight at MS, there just personally aren't many reasons for me to own one in addition to my PC, PS4, Wii U.
Bundle Xbone with free PS4... 100% chance to win this gen.
wanna give a reason for prediction brah?
People really think that MS had a shot on catching up on a 2:1 sales difference? Has such a thing ever happened with any console in the history of video games?
Really? Really? The reboot didn't do any damage that wasn't already done by garbage like Angel of Darkness. RotTR is possibly the best game in the series for my money. Looking forward to many reversals of opinion once it's on PC and PS4 (not to imply you'll change your mind, just that I think a lot of the hate that game gets is platform specific).