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Goddamn... If this is all true than it's pretty disastrous..
Gemüsepizza;61422665 said:Wouldn't it be more fitting if the title was:
"RUMOR: MS having eSRAM yield problems on Xbox One, downclocking CPU/GPU"
instead of
""RUMOR: MS having eSRAM yield problems on Xbox One, downclocking CPU"
CAN ANY MOD REMOVE "downclocking CPU" from the thread name? CPU has nothing to do with ESRAM, GPU does.
Jesus christ poor Microsoft can't catch a break.
Well, there's always the cloud....right? RIGHT?
What's tragic about it? If the thing sells and people like the games, I don't see much in the realm of tragic.
What's tragic about it? If the thing sells and people like the games, I don't see much in the realm of tragic.
Only wasted if PS4 stands up as superior on more then paper. Still haven't gotten to the all important "games" portion yet.
Only wasted if PS4 stands up as superior on more then paper. Still haven't gotten to the all important "games" portion yet.
Next week should answer some of those questions.
Waiting for a respin would be a poor idea, and waiting for magical process improvements is a worse one. Either they take the pain or they downclock. It is, for once, a black and white choice.
it's going to work for the handful of white knights on gaf, in north america, that watches live tv. I think we all know ms can sell this to americans, they sold kinect. however it's sad how they treat the demographic that solidified their game division.What if they just release it extremely supply-constrained and push the narrative that it's just the "must have" gadget of the season. People lining up outside Best Buy every morning seemed like good marketing for the Wii.
Someone should throw them an Xbone
wasn't superDAE from beyond3d? enough said about "sources"
CAN ANY MOD REMOVE "downclocking CPU" from the thread name? CPU has nothing to do with ESRAM, GPU does.
MS have not even given out the clockspeeds to begin with
So this 800-900gflop rumor is only true if the GPU was originally clocked at 800mhz, for all we know it could of been clocked higher!
Unlike sony we still dont have official clock speeds for the X1
1. The costs due to yield issues will be much less compared to cost to restore brand image + exclusivity contracts due to a late launch. MS will make 1-2M consoles for the holiday season at great loss and they'll all sell out, the next batch will come months later, generating demand for the console.
2. Maybe MS can use the harvested dies with a Windows 8 AIO Touchscreen PC and recoup some costs that way? Call it the Surface Desktop. Don't know if this will make financial sense.
I have a question? Do companies like MS and Sony have finalization's of the console done by now and are starting reproduction? Im not very knowledgeable. Just curious. Thanks
Nope, 90% of infinite is still infinite.But this will not affect the cloud power, right?
Are you in the industry?
No matter what you subtract from infinity, it's still infinite.But this will not affect the cloud power, right?
so if rare released a new banjo on xbone, i would look worse than the n64 ones?...
Its not perfectly black and white though. What about extended use failure rates? If they're missing yields wouldn't this also strongly imply that the 6 month, 12 month, 18 month, etc. failure rates they've been projecting are likely impacted?
If they thought (hypothetically) that 25% of the silicon would fail on the factory floor and another 5% after extended use, but now find that 40% are failing on the factory floor what does that say about the extended use modelling?
Not downclocking sounds like it has potential to ship out a bunch of time bombs waiting to overheat.
ucan remo.ve RUMUR frmo hte thread tittle TEAMMOD. esram yieldls. are "troubling"toput it lightly.
truthfact.
btw youiw lil not njhear abouthing about tech atMS E3 presentation. tech tarbaby (notracistst!) IS TSTICKIER THAN YOU WIL EVER KNOW. I LOOK FORWARF TO READING THE BOOK BY VENTUREBEAT.
theyMSrushed. --caughtoutbysonychangs. leadershitfailure.p.
ucan remo.ve RUMUR frmo hte thread tittle TEAMMOD. esram yieldls. are "troubling"toput it lightly.
truthfact.
btw youiw lil not njhear abouthing about tech atMS E3 presentation. tech tarbaby (notracistst!) IS TSTICKIER THAN YOU WIL EVER KNOW. I LOOK FORWARF TO READING THE BOOK BY VENTUREBEAT.
theyMSrushed. --caughtoutbysonychangs. leadershitfailure.p.
ucan remo.ve RUMUR frmo hte thread tittle TEAMMOD. esram yieldls. are "troubling"toput it lightly.
truthfact.
btw youiw lil not njhear abouthing about tech atMS E3 presentation. tech tarbaby (notracistst!) IS TSTICKIER THAN YOU WIL EVER KNOW. I LOOK FORWARF TO READING THE BOOK BY VENTUREBEAT.
theyMSrushed. --caughtoutbysonychangs. leadershitfailure.p.
To be honest, I'm not sure how well versed the general public is.Yeah, no one really noticed the Skyrim issues on PS3 outside of GAF!
ucan remo.ve RUMUR frmo hte thread tittle TEAMMOD. esram yieldls. are "troubling"toput it lightly.
truthfact.
btw youiw lil not njhear abouthing about tech atMS E3 presentation. tech tarbaby (notracistst!) IS TSTICKIER THAN YOU WIL EVER KNOW. I LOOK FORWARF TO READING THE BOOK BY VENTUREBEAT.
theyMSrushed. --caughtoutbysonychangs. leadershitfailure.p.
ucan remo.ve RUMUR frmo hte thread tittle TEAMMOD. esram yieldls. are "troubling"toput it lightly.
truthfact.
btw youiw lil not njhear abouthing about tech atMS E3 presentation. tech tarbaby (notracistst!) IS TSTICKIER THAN YOU WIL EVER KNOW. I LOOK FORWARF TO READING THE BOOK BY VENTUREBEAT.
theyMSrushed. --caughtoutbysonychangs. leadershitfailure.p.
MS have not even given out the clockspeeds to begin with
So this 800-900gflop rumor is only true if the GPU was originally clocked at 800mhz, for all we know it could of been clocked higher!
Unlike sony we still dont have official clock speeds for the X1
ucan remo.ve RUMUR frmo hte thread tittle TEAMMOD. esram yieldls. are "troubling"toput it lightly.
truthfact.
btw youiw lil not njhear abouthing about tech atMS E3 presentation. tech tarbaby (notracistst!) IS TSTICKIER THAN YOU WIL EVER KNOW. I LOOK FORWARF TO READING THE BOOK BY VENTUREBEAT.
theyMSrushed. --caughtoutbysonychangs. leadershitfailure.p.
CAN ANY MOD REMOVE "downclocking CPU" from the thread name? CPU has nothing to do with ESRAM, GPU does.
so if the click speed was 800, never confirmed by MS. What will the clock speed be if the flop rating be if its a rather vague 800-900 flops? First up MS wont release clock speeds so unless a developer wants to break an NDA, this will be forever a rumour. As was is the rumour that the clock on the PS3 was dropped from 550 to 500, before launch.MS have not even given out the clockspeeds to begin with
So this 800-900gflop rumor is only true if the GPU was originally clocked at 800mhz, for all we know it could of been clocked higher!
Unlike sony we still dont have official clock speeds for the X1
ucan remo.ve RUMUR frmo hte thread tittle TEAMMOD. esram yieldls. are "troubling"toput it lightly.
truthfact.
btw youiw lil not njhear abouthing about tech atMS E3 presentation. tech tarbaby (notracistst!) IS TSTICKIER THAN YOU WIL EVER KNOW. I LOOK FORWARF TO READING THE BOOK BY VENTUREBEAT.
theyMSrushed. --caughtoutbysonychangs. leadershitfailure.p.
ucan remo.ve RUMUR frmo hte thread tittle TEAMMOD. esram yieldls. are "troubling"toput it lightly.
truthfact.
btw youiw lil not njhear abouthing about tech atMS E3 presentation. tech tarbaby (notracistst!) IS TSTICKIER THAN YOU WIL EVER KNOW. I LOOK FORWARF TO READING THE BOOK BY VENTUREBEAT.
theyMSrushed. --caughtoutbysonychangs. leadershitfailure.p.
That really bad if true... the cost for the Xbone's APU will be a lot expensive compared to the PS4's APU.
Xbone's APU = complex / big
PS4's APU = simple / small
How can the scenario changed so much from the last gen? MS created the new Cell.
Sony appears to be production ready. The HW and case are finalized and small batch preproduction is reported to be going on with no issues. Full scale production will likely follow in July. The fact that they were able to guarantee a 2013 release in Europe after not doing that in Feb shows they are confident in their positioning on manufacture. In theory they might be able to launch in the US as early as Sep. In practice that's not going to happen because the games won't be ready.I have a question? Do companies like MS and Sony have finalization's of the console done by now and are starting reproduction? Im not very knowledgeable. Just curious. Thanks
ucan remo.ve RUMUR frmo hte thread tittle TEAMMOD. esram yieldls. are "troubling"toput it lightly.
truthfact.
btw youiw lil not njhear abouthing about tech atMS E3 presentation. tech tarbaby (notracistst!) IS TSTICKIER THAN YOU WIL EVER KNOW. I LOOK FORWARF TO READING THE BOOK BY VENTUREBEAT.
theyMSrushed. --caughtoutbysonychangs. leadershitfailure.p.