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[Cameron122]

Fuck Erdoğan.

 

[vaderise]

Turkey needs to be slapped down with sanctions for their numerous violations of human rights and democracy.

If they get in the EU it is doomed even more than today.

Fuck Turkey.

Calm down,will you? As a Turkish citizen i LOATHE Erdogan and his actions and you all people should know that A LOT of people just hate him and all he stands for.He really turned out contry into a joke

 

[bidguy]

damn that poem is rough

i can understand why the channel would remove everything related to it.

 

[Acorn]

Calm down,will you? As a Turkish citizen i LOATHE Erdogan and his actions and you all people should know that A LOT of people just hate him and all he stands for.He really turned out contry into a joke

I don't blame the turkish people, I blame the govt.

 

[Piecake]

I don't blame the turkish people, I blame the govt.

Eh, I certainly blame the people who voted for him

 

[Ullus]

Crime against humanity

Now that is some funny shit.

 

[Acorn]

Eh, I certainly blame the people who voted for him

Well yeah but I mean generally I don't subscribe to the view turks are gung ho for his authoritative bullshit on the whole.

 

[Deleted member 13876]

Calm down,will you? As a Turkish citizen i LOATHE Erdogan and his actions and you all people should know that A LOT of people just hate him and all he stands for.He really turned out contry into a joke

Seems like he's really popular with ex-pats. I recently saw a local news report where they asked people living here which candidate they supported and all of them were fawning over Erdogan. When asked if he didn't take things too far by cracking down on the press, they said he didn't go far enough, the press deserved it and they should never have written those things. I believe over 65% of Belgian Turks voted for him.

 

[Xando]

Merkel should have told him to fuck off instead of trying to appease him because of the refugee deal

 

[gutter_trash]

Kick them out of NATO.

this this this!

 

[vaderise]

Seems like he's really popular with ex-pats. I recently saw a local news report where they asked people living here which candidate they supported and all of them were fawning over Erdogan. When asked if he didn't take things too far by cracking down on the press, they said he didn't go far enough, the press deserved it and they should never have written those things. I believe over 65% of Belgian Turks voted for him.

Exactly! A lot of people who has zero knowledge about politics are blinded by the campaigns ran by government and the worst thing is the budget for this campaigns are being funded from TAXES! That's how fucked up things are

 

[vaderise]

Eh, I certainly blame the people who voted for him

He has like %50 of people's votes,and the thing is ALL the other half of the voters are STRONGLY against his ideologies.People of Turkey are still very divisive about politics.

 

[Sadist]

Keep digging your own grave Erdogan.

 

[Condom]

His ego has gotten the best of him, the beginning of the end for Tayyip.

 

[NeoRausch]

It should be noted that before Böhmermann presented this poem he explicitly said that you can't do something like this openly and it would be cut/deleted and that nobody should do something like this.

A wonderful act of reverse psychology.

 

[sangreal]

Erdoğan has thinner skin than Donald Trump

 

[Shiggy]

I saw the part while it was still online. Great satire, yet is sad to see so many stupid and uneducated people on Facebook comment on it without understanding the context the poem sas embedded in. The poem in its own is insulting, but it was put as an example of what would not be allowed.

If Merkel and Gabriel will allow prosecution, it will be quite sad. Then again, the SPD has nothing to lose anymore as they are fucked up beyond repair.

 

[NeoRausch]

I saw the part while it was still online. Great satire, yet is sad to see so many stupid and uneducated people on Facebook comment on it without understanding the context the poem sas embedded in. The poem in its own is insulting, but it was put as an example of what would not be allowed.

If Merkel and Gabriel will allow prosecution, it will be quite sad. Then again, the SPD has nothing to lose anymore as they are fucked up beyond repair.

For me, the moment the ZDF cut out/deleted the part of Neo Magazin Royal was already a sad moment.
But seeing that even the highest politicians in Germany crumble down in front of Erdogan....

But if gotta give it to Böhmi. It's was a strike off genius and he has Eier aus Stahl!


Edit:

And have a go at his last music video! For your convince it's in English too! With ze most wonderful accent!
https://youtu.be/HMQkV5cTuoY

 

[zou]

I think the bigger joke is Germany's "Free Speech" laws.

 

[NeoRausch]

Also his (and Olli Schulz) Monday morning podcast got cancelled because of all this.
My commute!

ERRDOGAAAAAAAN!

 

[Soyongdori]

Erdoğan has thinner skin than Donald Trump

Trump? Erdogan even possibly has thinner skin than KJU and Mugabe combined.

 

[Salty Rice]

Erdogan is such a little child.

Its a shame Merkel has to cooperate with him or else they would just laugh about him.

Freedom of speech does not exist for him. Bans twitter and youtube because people say negative things about him what the hell.

 

[Bitch Pudding]

Its a relict of the past and it shouldnt exist anymore.
Similar to the "bee-paragraphs" in our BGB:

https://dejure.org/gesetze/BGB/961.html



If its the same poem I am seeing, there is no such thing in it. The only thing that talks about "all turkish" is, that all turkish are singing that the has small testicles.

Hey, hands off of our bee following right! *g*

So, concerning OP:

The real fun is that Senior Erdogan told the German ambassador who visited the trial against a Turkish journalist a week ago that he refuses to tolerte any involvements of foreigners into Turkish state affairs (which apparently includes visiting trials).

This guy is just the worst.

 

[KRod-57]

I think the bigger joke is Germany's "Free Speech" laws.

While I agree that German law allows for limited freedom of speech, what the Turkish president is asking for is taking it to a whole new level

 

[Osahi]

Goddamn, that poem is something.

Wel, in the context of the joke with the media lawyer it is pretty brilliant imo.

If this goes to court (don't think it will) I hope Germany will be in an uproar

 

[SPCTRE]

Historically speaking, these things don't go to court

 

[neorej]

It's nice to want things.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

Every time I see his name I think about Batman The Brave and the Bold.

Be gone, be gone the form of man
Rise the demon, Edrogan

 

[DJKhaled]

Thanks, Erdogan.

For making Turkey look like such a joke. I promise guys, Turkish people (well, the good majority of folk who have not been brainwashed by the AKP) are good folk.

I'm assuming you're from Turkey? can I ask what's happened? like, how did you guys just go from a democracy into what is clearly a dictatorship at this point, Turkey went from a country with a muslim majority that we could look at to prove that muslim majority countries can be great places but then this guy has just seemingly destroyed all that.

 

[IHaveIce]

Böhmermann is a genius ofc the poem is rough but that was the intention.

His "Be Deutsch" is even better.

Sad story that the German government is even trying to look if a persecution is possible, it should be outright clear that it is sazire and nothing happens.

 

[Pezking]

For me, the moment the ZDF cut out/deleted the part of Neo Magazin Royal was already a sad moment.

This!

Directly after reading the poem, he explained to Erdogan how he could have this video removed. First, Erdogan would send a complaint to the network, then the network would be opposed to that, then it would go to court...

And that's where it all fell apart, when the ZDF deleted the video BEFORE anyone complained about it.

Then the BILD reported about the poem and the deletion of the video in the online database of the ZDF, while posting a video of the poem themselves on bild.de - but ONLY a video the poem, without the explanations before and after it!

So everybody from there on saw only a one minute version of a nearly five minute long segment of his show. And you can't do that without changing the entire tone and message of this satirical piece.

It's really ridiculous how selective perception has made a national crisis out of this.

 

[Nere]

While I really don't like Erdogan I have to say that poem reads like it was written by a 10 year old. Disgusting sense of humor, there are 1 million ways you can make fun of Erdogan and his policies but saying he has a small penis isn't the way to do it. He should be fined but obviously not prosecuted in my opinion.

 

[Shiggy]

While I really don't like Erdogan I have to say that poem reads like it was written by a 10 year old. Disgusting sense of humor, there are 1 million ways you can make fun of Erdogan and his policies but saying he has a small penis isn't the way to do it. He should be fined but obviously not prosecuted in my opinion.

Yeah, you apparently don't understand what this is about. Hint: The satire wasn't really about the poem itself.

 

[Always-honest]

Goddamn, that poem is something.

It is. It is Sooooooo over the top. Taking it serious might mean you are dead inside.
He could have easily reacted with humor ("yep, all true" or "wow, he knows me so well" or something else/ better).

Challenge him to a duel.

 

[ArjanN]

While I really don't like Erdogan I have to say that poem reads like it was written by a 10 year old. Disgusting sense of humor, there are 1 million ways you can make fun of Erdogan and his policies but saying he has a small penis isn't the way to do it. He should be fined but obviously not prosecuted in my opinion.

The whole thing is clearly set up as an exploration of the limits of free speech. That the poem is just a childish list of insults is not really what the 'joke' is.

 

[SigSig]

This!

Directly after reading the poem, he explained to Erdogan how he could have this video removed. First, Erdogan would send a complaint to the network, then the network would be opposed to that, then it would go to court...

And that's where it all fell apart, when the ZDF deleted the video BEFORE anyone complained about it.

Then the BILD reported about the poem and the deletion of the video in the online database of the ZDF, while posting a video of the poem themselves on bild.de - but ONLY a video the poem, without the explanations before and after it!

So everybody from there on saw only a one minute version of a nearly five minute long segment of his show. And you can't do that without changing the entire tone and message of this satirical piece.

It's really ridiculous how selective perception has made a national crisis out of this.

Yeah, this is the real kicker. ZDF proved once more they are spineless losers.

 

[ConfusingJazz]

While I really don't like Erdogan I have to say that poem reads like it was written by a 10 year old. Disgusting sense of humor, there are 1 million ways you can make fun of Erdogan and his policies but saying he has a small penis isn't the way to do it. He should be fined but obviously not prosecuted in my opinion.

You think a government should fine someone for saying a foreign leader has a small penis?

 

[bidguy]

You think a government should fine someone for saying a foreign leader has a small penis?

you get fined here if you insult anyone if they decide to report to the police afaik

 

[GAMEPROFF]

you get fined here if you insult anyone if they decide to report to the police afaik

But the punishments arent very hard when it comes to this.

Edit: Depends where you come from, which I dont know^^

 

[neorej]

You think a government should fine someone for saying a foreign leader has a small penis?

Yes, smallpenissyndrome is a very serious matter and is not to be joked about. These men will never know how it feels like to pound that G-spot like a jackhammer.

 

[El Topo]

Yes, smallpenissyndrome is a very serious matter and is not to be joked about. These men will never know how it feels like to pound that G-spot like a jackhammer.

Thankfully we at GAF don't have that problem. #JustGAFThings

 

[bidguy]

But the punishments arent very hard when it comes to this.

Edit: Depends where you come from, which I dont know^^

germany and yea thats what i said, fined, which will probably be the worst case scenario here for the comedian

 

[Kinyou]

Would be ridiculous if he receives any kind of punishment. That the zdf took it down is already shameful

 

[Vitten]

It always makes me wonder why the common people willingly chose complete scumbags like Erdogan to lead them. I guess most people really are just stupid.

I'm disappointed at the German response. They should just tell him to fuck off

 

[ElTorro]

I wonder why Erdogan is demanding a prosecution. Even acknowledging that he is an autocratic idiot with a huge ego and a small dick, I cannot believe that he is not aware of how petty this makes him look on the international stage. I suspect at least some Machiavellian considerations at play here. Do such demonstrations of authority benefit him domestically by deterring critics and comedians within Turkey?

 

[Nibel]

This!

Directly after reading the poem, he explained to Erdogan how he could have this video removed. First, Erdogan would send a complaint to the network, then the network would be opposed to that, then it would go to court...

And that's where it all fell apart, when the ZDF deleted the video BEFORE anyone complained about it.

Then the BILD reported about the poem and the deletion of the video in the online database of the ZDF, while posting a video of the poem themselves on bild.de - but ONLY a video the poem, without the explanations before and after it!

So everybody from there on saw only a one minute version of a nearly five minute long segment of his show. And you can't do that without changing the entire tone and message of this satirical piece.

It's really ridiculous how selective perception has made a national crisis out of this.

Agreed with all of this.

The fact that the president of one of the most powerful middle-eastern countries is so thinskinned that simple and cheap satire by German niche comedians for German niche shows gets to him is either incredibly hilarious or incredibly sad

 

[GAMEPROFF]

The funny thing is, back then when the polnish government asked the same because of a carneval car who made fun of them, the german government stood up and said, fuck you, we have freedom of speech, we wont sue these guys.

 

[Shiggy]

I wonder why Erdogan is demanding a prosecution. Even acknowledging that he is an autocratic idiot with a huge ego and a small dick, I cannot believe that he is not aware of how petty this makes him look on the international stage. I suspect at least some Machiavellian considerations at play here. Do such demonstrations of authority benefit him domestically by deterring critics and comedians within Turkey?

One German politician compared the situation to Hitler's final days. None of his advisors will tell him what he is doing, apparently he's not aware of the Streisand effect. At the same time, there are more than 2000 lawsuits in Turkey because of defamation of Erdogan, so Boehermann is just one of many.

I believe he also wants to show his power over Merkel. I mean, he sued Boehmermann as a private person, and now he is also asking the German government to allow prosecution as a statesman as that is a separate offence.

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

I wonder why Erdogan is demanding a prosecution. Even acknowledging that he is an autocratic idiot with a huge ego and a small dick, I cannot believe that he is not aware of how petty this makes him look on the international stage. I suspect at least some Machiavellian considerations at play here. Do such demonstrations of authority benefit him domestically by deterring critics and comedians within Turkey?

If he gets a single penny from someone hundreds or thousands of miles away under a different government, it will certainly convince those under his rule that he's not to be trifled with.

Dude is basically Joffrey-lite at this point. Removing the freedom of the press more or less removed the illusion of true democracy in Turkey.

 

[El Topo]

If he gets a single penny from someone hundreds or thousands of miles away under a different government, it will certainly convince those under his rule that he's not to be trifled with.

On the other hand if he is ignored he can use that to further nationalism. It may very well be a win-win situation for him, unless things get handled appropriately.
I don't think the Joffrey comparison is appropriate.