MisterAnderson
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Sooo my Steam library is incompatible?
Why hast Gaben forsaken me?
Why hast Gaben forsaken me?
1-3 aren't particularly relevant to Steambox as it's a new console.Expanding the audience? Who is there left to expand to?
Who is that mythical beast that:
- Doesn't own a console.
- Doesn't own a PC.
- Knows about Valve and Steam but never made the jump to the console or the PC.
- Is ready to jump on a totally new platform.
- Is ready to forget about most of the big games on the 360 and the PS3.
- Is ready to deal with a limited library for a while.
Absolutely will not happen. Valve may have a love affair with Linux due to Windows 8, but the company isn't going to alienate its millions upon millions of fans by making the third mainline entry in its flagship FPS franchise exclusive to a "new" platform.
Seems to me allot of them are threatened by it,because it's another potential big competitor to whatever system/platform holder they prefer already.
6 - anyone who buys a new system? Is there a massive library on the Wii U at the moment?
Expanding the audience? Who is there left to expand to?
Who is that mythical beast that:
- Doesn't own a console.
- Doesn't own a PC.
- Knows about Valve and Steam but never made the jump to the console or the PC.
- Is ready to jump on a totally new platform.
- Is ready to forget about most of the big games on the 360 and the PS3.
- Is ready to deal with a limited library for a while.
Again, for the general consumer this won't matter if it's marketed as a new console. There's backwards compatibility on the Wii U because Nintendo have released consoles before. Valve haven't - there's nothing to be compatible with. Sure, it's a PC, we know that. The average consumer doesn't unless Valve sells this as "a PC in a box" rather than "a new game console", which I doubt. There's also no PS2 backwards compatibility in most PS3s, indeed any new models now don't have it, yet that doesn't seem to affect sales significantly.Only if there's backwards compatibility, which with the WiiU there is. If going Linux hurts the backlog of what can be played on Steambox, that definitely won't help. Especially for people like my wife who won't go anywhere near it if it can't play Blizzard games.
And that's why it's not going to happen and people need to stop making this stupid assumption.I don't see the point of Valve making a console wannabe PC if the launch lineup is their own titles and 25 indie games
Games will have to shift over to OpenGL, which is not an insigificant matter for many games. I don't know how Valve will convince other developers to write an entire renderer just for their platform.
At least for the first year its going to be only valve games
"If you make a OGL version, with virtually no upcost you can sell it for Steam's Linux user base, for our console owners and for Mac. It also will be pretty much ready for smartphones/tablets in a couple of years, when they catch up with the hardware". There, done. you have convinced every single developer/publisher who isn't stupid and/or very bad at math.I don't know how Valve will convince other developers to write an entire renderer just for their platform.
No, it's not, it wouldn't make any sense.At least for the first year its going to be only valve games
No one knows how the next Xbox or PlayStation will perform. The Wii U isn't doing amazingly well, but might not be an indication for most of the "core" consoles. But both the 360 and the PS3 have 10 years + of marketing and are part of the marketplace as the default consoles.
Valve starts from zero as a manufacturer and a hardware company.
Next generation will (hopefully) be really indie friendly, so I don't really see the point of such a console.
I dunno. Seems DOA to me, since Steam's major draw to me is all the amazing indie stuff on the service.
Games will have to shift over to OpenGL, which is not an insigificant matter for many games. I don't know how Valve will convince other developers to write an entire renderer just for their platform.
At least for the first year its going to be only valve games
I'm hoping they debut Source 2 at the same time to show off what the box can do.
Games will have to shift over to OpenGL, which is not an insigificant matter for many games. I don't know how Valve will convince other developers to write an entire renderer just for their platform.
At least for the first year its going to be only valve games
what if this is designed to compete more with an alienware PC but just uses linux instead of running windows? I dont think they're actually making a console, but simply a custom gaming solution for PC's.
Don't see the point of this if they still make games for PCs and consoles.
Don't see the point of this if they still make games for PCs and consoles.
I fail to see the purpose of this in today's world.
That must be a very small or niche market. You don't built a hardware lab and a custom device just to get a niche audience. That's too much trouble for very little to gain.
I think the right answer is Valve attempting to distance itself from Windows and try to create a platform that they can fully control.
Go look at the Alienware X51 thread if you guys want to see demand. That thread is massive for an overpriced, underpowered piece of equipment.
Imagine for a minute that Valve is able to develop some kind of Windows/directx wrapper to run all of the games on the platform.
There is your audience and market.
If that is the case why haven't other companies swooped in and captured this massive market in waiting?
Go look at the Alienware X51 thread if you guys want to see demand. That thread is massive for an overpriced, underpowered piece of equipment.
Imagine for a minute that Valve is able to develop some kind of Windows/directx wrapper to run all of the games on the platform.
There is your audience and market.
Go look at the Alienware X51 thread if you guys want to see demand. That thread is massive for an overpriced, underpowered piece of equipment.
Imagine for a minute that Valve is able to develop some kind of Windows/directx wrapper to run all of the games on the platform.
There is your audience and market.
If that is the case why haven't other companies swooped in and captured this massive market in waiting?
So is this going to be like an alienware X51 with closed specs and steam as medium through which all software would be purchased?
It'd be interesting to see the specs in light of all rumours of the PS4 and XB3 may bring to the table. Valve has really kept the lid tight on that end.
Unless they make it compatible with Steams vast library I don't see it ever taking off. I mean, they don't have the luxury of waiting for it to mature like with Steam.
Go look at the Alienware X51 thread if you guys want to see demand. That thread is massive for an overpriced, underpowered piece of equipment.
Imagine for a minute that Valve is able to develop some kind of Windows/directx wrapper to run all of the games on the platform.
There is your audience and market.
Are you kidding?
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That doesn't even include stuff like Dell or HP.
From what Valve has been saying it will have fairly open specs. You will be able to go in and change out parts however you want.
Maybe Valve wants people who are scared of building a PC (it may seem silly to us, but those people are in the majority) to mature into people doing it comfortably and confidently, an evolution from saying: "Well, I guess I could switch out the graphics card, it doesn't look that hard..." to "Fuck it, I'll just build a new PC, it's fun."So... why not just buy or build a PC, install linux and install steam client on it? Or is the initial (spec'd) steambox going to have some sort of Valve subsidised pricing which would mean getting more for your money? I am confused.
So... why not just buy or build a PC, install linux and install steam client on it? Or is the initial (spec'd) steambox going to have some sort of Valve subsidised pricing which would mean getting more for your money? I am confused.
So... why not just buy or build a PC, install linux and install steam client on it? ... I am confused.
Maybe Valve wants people who are scared of building a PC (it may seem silly to us, but those people are in the majority) to mature into people doing it comfortably and confidently, an evolution from saying: "Well, I guess I could switch out the graphics card, it doesn't look that hard..." to "Fuck it, I'll just build a new PC, it's fun."