Isn't that kind of obvious though. The lense doesn't encompass the entire head set. Where as the camera would have the entire thing fitted with itThe FOV window example from Verge's video:
Yeah, the fov is a thing they really sidelined, but it still seems less fake than their kinect demos *cough* Milo *cough*
Lots of people at BUILD have mentioned the limited FOV, this video isn't breaking any new ground today.
Even Adi says, "it's like the best projector in the world".
The FOV will be improved over time, just like the Rift. You people...
Lots of people at BUILD have mentioned the limited FOV, this video isn't breaking any new ground today.
Even Adi says, "it's like the best projector in the world".
The FOV will be improved over time, just like the Rift. You people...
Lots of people at BUILD have mentioned the limited FOV, this video isn't breaking any new ground today.
Even Adi says, "it's like the best projector in the world".
The FOV will be improved over time, just like the Rift. You people...
I know the articles mentioned the low FOV, but damn! I didn't think it's this low.
I know this thread is about how this is supposed to be a disappointment, but I haven't been paying any attention to the Hololens at all and this looks really amazing. I know, I know, the whole point of the video is about how the demo videos I'm gushing over are lies, but all that tells me is that Gen 1 will suck. That's normal. If I'm using technology like this in the next decade, or hell, 20 years, I'm going to be very happy. This looks like science fiction and unless something bad happens I'll be alive for it.
You mean I can't bring Tupac into my living room now?
Microsoft needs to be very upfront with the obvious FOX shortcoming with their pitches. Explain what isn't optimal right now, and explain clearly how it will improve through iteration (which is obvious, but still worth explaining). Be as open as they possibly can about how this is an infant technology and how in several years it'll be leaps and bounds better.
Do this or else the ignorant public will regard all of AR as snakeoil. Microsoft is dangerously close to poisoning the well here. AR is too important for the public to become distrustful this early in it's lifetime.
No, VR seems to be pretty damn close to what we want sans having graphics up to par with everything out at the moment.AR and VR are still a good 10 years away from being how we all imagine it. People need to come to terms with this.
People might jump on you for saying this, but I agree. Microsoft's strategy generally seems to be "release raw version of thing early, get negative impressions, then keep throwing money at iteration number 2/3 to make them successful and try to overcome negative public opinion". Surface took 3 iterations, Kinect is in its second iteration and still isn't universally loved, Windows Phone is still in its infancy etc. Generally the first iteration of a MS product isn't "good enough", and if they just waited to release a truly solid product at first they would have to fight off a lot less negative opinions for the second iteration.
No, VR seems to be pretty damn close to what we want sans having graphics up to par with everything out at the moment.
You can, if it's a really small Tupac.
People might jump on you for saying this, but I agree. Microsoft's strategy generally seems to be "release raw version of thing early, get negative impressions, then keep throwing money at iteration number 2/3 to make them successful and try to overcome negative public opinion".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfC8RoQcez0
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See the video for explanation of the field of view issue.
Can recognize simple gestures and voice commands.
Hologram field of view is very limited, it's only in a small box, not immersive. Nothing like the demos. Only works when looking straight at the hologram. "It's not augmenting reality, augmenting a little fraction of reality. Which is still amazing, but Microsoft is promising science fiction"
This impression stands out to me fro the rest of the hololens impressions which are overwhelmingly positive so I thought this deserved its own thread.
box me in a tiny FOV if old.
I get the enthusiasm, but having tried the current devices, I'm not convinced we are there yet.
Never forget: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2qlHoxPioM
I'm still sour it didn't half turn out like it was presented in the videos
Lots of people at BUILD have mentioned the limited FOV, this video isn't breaking any new ground today.
Even Adi says, "it's like the best projector in the world".
The FOV will be improved over time, just like the Rift. You people...
Have you tried Vive or Crescent Bay? Also, technological determinism is silly, "the medium is the message" is bullshit. You can't judge technology without content. What specifically did you try?
Honestly there would be no fuss if they did not have the tech demo (which was obviously partially faked). Just show off what it can do and speak about what improvements it needs and that its being worked on. Its not that hard.
So it works, FOV is just ass though? Hope it's fixed before launch out I'll just wait until v2
That sucks.... That said, if it's only the FOV that's borked... that's actually not TOO bad. It's disappointing to be sure, but I'd expect them to figure that out relatively soon actually.
The big problem, at the moment, is the room visualization they are doing, which won't be that great in moment to moment situations outside of these demoes. That stuff is rapidly improving, but it's not there yet.
Something like Lighthouse could actually help leaps and bounds, actually. The goal and dream is something like visual slam or project tango embedded into the headset entirely, that work flawlessly. We aren't there yet.
It's not even out , and people say it is a piece of shiit. Well color me suprised ...
At least they are trying something new and don't follow the straight VR path
Case in point, people have brought up kinect as a "lie" several times in this topic. Which is sad, because a consumer-grade 3D scan camera is an awesome technological achievement. And people hate it because microsoft promised it was a magical computer interface, instead of recognizing what it could (and should) be used for currently - triangulated 3D mesh scans.
I've tried Oculus and Morpheus. I am excited as anyone about the potential, and Im not saying there won't be any worthwhile experience in the next few years, but it is still very much fledgling technology.
It's not even out , and people say it is a piece of shiit. Well color me suprised ...
At least they are trying something new and don't follow the straight VR path
I've tried Oculus and Morpheus. I am excited as anyone about the potential, and Im not saying there won't be any worthwhile experience in the next few years, but it is still very much fledgling technology.