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Wii U - No optical audio connector? Nintendo. Fix this!!
- Thread starter Fredrik
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But if the system dosen't support DD anyway, then all you would get over optical is stereo.
Dreamwriter
Member
Why not?
You need to connect the HDMI cable to the receiver directly if you can. If not, then it dosen't have HDMI, and the optical cable from the TV will not give you surround sound.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
I mean, I'd think it would support DD 5.1 since that's been in games for a decade or so now... so you could still do that.
Either way, people have a serious lack of appreciation for a good stereo setup these days. Damn kids and their Logitech subs.
It's Nintendo, and disc space likely wouldn't allow it.
licensing fees.
Wii U does NOT have DD. It only outputs surround in PCM.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat the fuck.
Wait... so... not even fuckin' bootleg ProLogic II is an option?
I'd be shocked if they could fit 5.1 PCM on these discs...
The disks are 25 GB...
http://forums.astrogaming.com/showthread.php?4718-Get-Xbox-360-DD5-1-out-of-your-TV-s-OPT-OUT
This method might or might not work for the Wii U.
Not the expert on audio but just passing this through here.
This method might or might not work for the Wii U.
Not the expert on audio but just passing this through here.
My Pioneer Elite Receiver loves all 7 of its HDMI inputs. It will love the WiiU via HDMI.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
That I didn't know. Proprietary format, then?
Though even that much leaves me with some doubts. Uncompressed audio takes a lot of space, and when you consider the demand for less compressed/uncompressed textures and such these days... I dunno.
TheChewyWaffles
Member
It doesn't have to be uncompressed PCM on the disc - it just outputs PCM.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Guess I'm expecting a bit too much here, then.
Source of this? I would imagine they have support for component and if that's the case, Dolby Pro Logic II.
PixyJunket
Member
Welp.
If there was ever a reason to upgrade my decade old receiver, I uh, guess this is it.
Sigh.
If there was ever a reason to upgrade my decade old receiver, I uh, guess this is it.
Sigh.
TheChewyWaffles
Member
I have not read any Wii U specs, but PCM is fine for supporting surround sound - it's just raw sound data (like a wav file) being sent out.
Nintendo's specs. And PLII isn't digital surround sound, but they don't list support for it either way.
OverHeat
« generous god »
I got hdmi inputs on my pionner receiver too but when the baby sleep I use my a50.By the way I was talking about the tech inside WiiU...
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Nah, I get it... I was just thinking about what the best sound quality we can expect from a given game is, and with DD and DTS out the window, my mind naturally went to the next step up. And then came to the realization that they're probably going to make everything sound like a Dreamcast game anyway, regardless of how fancy your method of outputting the sound is.
Teletraan1
Banned
Wow what a joke. In before someone does some math where if Nintendo sells 1 billion WiiUs that would cost them 1 billion dollars.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
YOU JUST DID THE MATH, NOW LOOK WHAT YOU'VE DONE!!
The Xtortionist
Member
Uhhh how am I supposed to get virtual 5.1 through my headphones if the WiiU doesn't support DD? I don't think my mixamp will accept any other type of audio.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Good. Man up and use stereo.
You don't.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Basically... what I'm asking is "how are they compressing the sound?"
The Xtortionist
Member
This is unfathomable. The Wii U not having DD might be reason for me to cancel my preorder. There's goes the entire aural experience.
And that's the exact same thing that tipped my interest in the Wii U to complete and total indifference.
kodt said:
It's been stated several times in the thread before that the only an incredibly small number of televisions actually have this as a viable alternative. Especially in the Wii U's case lacks DD/DTS anyway so all you'd get out if it is stereo audio.
will get you 2.0 PCM.
I have a TV that will output 5.1 like this.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Yeah, should be. The input on the TV is sorta square shaped, with a couple squiggles on the sides.
Yes, but if your receiver supports HDMI then you really don't have to worry about it. This is only important to people with older receivers that don't support HDMI.
If you don't use a receiver and just a TV, then it also doesn't affect you.
You have a tv that supports 5.1 PCM passthrough?
Forget about that. If you have a receiver with HDMI, you're probably fine. Otherwise, you're not.
The Xtortionist
Member
Isn't that just for home theater setups? I think headphone guys are totally fucked.
You can have headphones that work with receivers. But, yeah, otherwise, fucked you are.
Not really, most people will try hooking it up with composite cables. 99% of the WiiU user base have never heard of an optical cable.
Sad to say, I canceled mine. This is a deal breaker for me. ><
Of course when it releases and my impulse buying genes kick in I'll still end up with the system. ><
what formats does your headphone amp accept?
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Headphone guys can just use RCA jacks and they're golden. At least, that's the best you're gonna get here. It's not necessarily a bad thing.
Probably not PCM, but can optical even do 5.1 PCM?
Teletraan1
Banned
If your source is LPCM 5.1 and you plug your HDMI into your TV your TV would need to be re-encoding that source to DD5.1 on the fly and then sending it to your receiver. I could see if the source was DD5.1 and it just passed that same signal along with no need to re-encode. Optical cables do not have the ability to transmit a LPCM5.1 signal. Due to bandwidth constraints they max out at PCM2.0 or use compressed standards such as DD5.1 or DTS. Often people have receivers that when fed a stereo signal do a very shitty up-convert to multi channel but retains none of the positional audio characteristics because it is just extrapolating a stereo signal.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
No, it can't.