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[velociraptor]

hmmmmm I swear Metal Gear Solid 4 looks better than this ? ( PS3 version)

The shaders and lighting alone in MGSV are a step above MGS4.

 

[Phatosaurus]

MGS4 was 1080p on a proprietary engine for the cell processor.

This is the Fox Engine primarily designed for next-gen and x86 architecture that has been ported to make calls on cell and powerpc.

So I wouldn't be surprised if certain strengths of the MGS4 rendering engine are lost.

MGS4 was 1080p?!

I really need to get a higher res TV. 1366x768 just isn't cutting it anymore.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

MGS4 was 1080p?!

I really need to get a higher res TV. 1366x768 just isn't cutting it anymore.

Just looked at the back of the box, and yes, 1080p.

 

[rvy]

MGS4 was 1080p on a proprietary engine for the cell processor.

wat

lol?

Just looked at the back of the box, and yes, 1080p native.

 

[AgentOtaku]

MGS4 was 1080p?!

I really need to get a higher res TV. 1366x768 just isn't cutting it anymore.

lol

try 1024x768

 

[illmatic22]

lol I love the whining over resolution gate yet the 360 crowd would celebrate over their superior muliplatform games. What's with the about-face now?

 

[NCell]

Areas are probably larger though.

There's only one area on GZ though...

 

[Broder Salsa]

loool, 1024x768 with 2xAA. Not fucking 1080p.

 

[Mass Effect]

Destiny is guaranteed to be superior on the PS4. Not even just the visual differences, but whatever else we will be getting out of the money Sony has thrown to Activision/Bungie.

Oh yeah, I forgot Sony had a deal with Activision and Bungie for Destiny. No worries with that one then.

I think they'd both be nuts to show their faces round here after all the pre-launch lies they were spouting. I'd love it if they popped up in one of the threads though, they'd be throwing themselves to the wolves. It would be epic!

Ha, they won't. Not unless whatever game in question is equal on both platforms. And looking at his post history, Penello has only posted a few times since he's been back, and only in announcement threads.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

wat

lol?

That picture is amazing lol.

 

[rvy]

lol

try 1024x768

Indeed.

That picture is amazing lol.

MGS 4 is not 1080p.

It's not even 720p.

There's only one area on GZ though...

Sure, but probably larger than the biggest area in MGS 4. And no loading screens.

 

[Betty]

Just looked at the back of the box, and yes, 1080p.

I don't know if you're joking or not, but the back of my box of MGS4 says 720p.

 

[CambriaRising]

MGS4 was 1080p?!

I really need to get a higher res TV. 1366x768 just isn't cutting it anymore.

MGS4 wasn't even 720p. Don't know where he got that from.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

I don't know if you're joking or not, but the back of my box of MGS4 says 720p.

Really? I have the one that came with the MGS4 PS3 bundle on release day (the release day of the bundle) and it says 1080p on it.

Indeed.



MGS 4 is not 1080p.

It's not even 720p.



Sure, but probably larger than the biggest area in MGS 4. And no loading screens.

I realize that now, but still saying what's on the back of my box.

 

[Xun]

Despite the resolution, I'm actually quite impressed with how it looks on last-gen hardware.

Looks a generation apart. Plus double the framerate. Bravo Kojima.

It looks great, but there's actually a part of me which prefers how the ground looks on the PS3 version (aside from resolution of course).

Am I crazy?

 

[robotrock]

MGS4 wasn't even 720p. Don't know where he got that from.

It was like 567p I think, but I might be remembering incorrectly. At the time, I thought it looked fantastic.

 

[Betty]

Really? I have the one that came with the MGS4 PS3 bundle on release day (the release day of the bundle) and it says 1080p on it.

Mine's the regular pal version, it's got 720p on it.

here's a pic

 

[Broder Salsa]

Really? I have the one that came with the MGS4 PS3 bundle on release day (the release day of the bundle) and it says 1080p on it.



I realize that now, but still saying what's on the back of my box.

What it says on the back of the box does not actually mean the native resolution.


anyway it also says 720p here just to get that mystery out of the way

Edit : well fuck that was blurrier than I though, you can still make it out.

 

[rvy]

What the fuck are you people on with this back of the box bullshit, lol. Those are just the resolutions which the game is/can be upscaled to.

 

[leadbelly]

Looks a generation apart. Plus double the framerate. Bravo Kojima.

It is kind of funny though. The ground textures are much sharper and detailed in the PS4 screenshot, but I actually think the blurred and less detailed texture work in the PS3 screenshot looks more realistic. The mud has a really soggy and wet look to it. It could be just that screenshot though.

 

[Tabular]

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Let's remind ourselves how MGS4 looked! All directfeeds:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6nK5AvTACNw

Ground Zeroes [PS3]

I think the lighting engine for MGS:GZ is much more dynamic and overall better than 4. And the colours are less tinted and fuller in the new game. But from a less technical point of view MGS4 has a great look equal to the newer game.

It is kind of funny though. The ground textures are much sharper and detailed in the PS4 screenshot, but I actually think the blurred and less detailed texture work in the PS3 screenshot looks more realistic. The mud has a really soggy and wet look to it. It could be just that screenshot though.

Ya the mud looks like it's redone almost entirely for PS4 and it's probably partly because of lighting. The PS3 looks more like thick sludge.

 

[Betty]

What the fuck are you people on with this back of the box bullshit, lol. Those are just the resolutions which the game is/can be upscaled to.

Right, but SolidSnakeUS said his copy had 1080p on the back, whereas ours don't, we were just showing that.

 

[rvy]

I think the lighting engine for MGS:GZ is much more dynamic and overall better than 4. And the colours are less tinted and fuller in the new game. But from a less technical point of view MGS4 has a great look equal to the newer game.

That's just because the character models hold up really well.
Watch GZ in motion, watch MGS 4 in motion and the difference is night and day.

 

[Skinless]

Right, but SolidSnakeUS said his copy had 1080p on the back, whereas ours don't, we were just showing that.

My copy also had 1080p on the back.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

Right, but SolidSnakeUS said his copy had 1080p on the back, whereas ours don't, we were just showing that.

Mine has 1080p on it.

As well as 420p, 720p and 1080i

 

[CambriaRising]

Right, but SolidSnakeUS said his copy had 1080p on the back, whereas ours don't, we were just showing that.

It lists 480i-1080p on the back of the NTSC box. Its a meaningless description in terms of framebuffer.

Edit: Beaten

 

[robotrock]

I had to dig out my copy to see who was correct. US release copy. I understand this doesn't mean it's the native rendering resolution of the game.

 

[injurai]

I pulled that stat from memory. Checked my box again just now

Supported HD video output: 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p

so yeah... that's a bit different

 

[Prelude.]

MGS4 was 1024x768.

 

[Mackins]

Oh yeah, I forgot Sony had a deal with Activision and Bungie for Destiny. No worries with that one then.



Ha, they won't. Not unless whatever game in question is equal on both platforms. And looking at his post history, Penello has only posted a few times since he's been back, and only in announcement threads.

What a shame, we can live in hope though right?

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Okay, I think we're done with this the MGS4 stuff then.

 

[injurai]

Okay, I think we're done with this the MGS4 stuff then.

 

[Zatoichi's Cane]

Never forget:

What a clown, seriously. All this guy does is spread misinformation and propaganda. You can encapsulate everything that is wrong with the xbone by just looking at some of the prominent people who speak on behalf or are employed in the xbox division.

I'm so glad that people like Larry and Albert have been exposed for the who they are (I mean professionally, I'm sure they are nice people in their private lives...).

 

[leadbelly]

Despite the resolution, I'm actually quite impressed with how it looks on last-gen hardware.

It looks great, but there's actually a part of me which prefers how the ground looks on the PS3 version (aside from resolution of course).

Am I crazy?

lol

Just noticed you posted pretty much the same thing. I prefer it too yeah. It somehow looks more realistic.

 

[Rogue Agent]

Okay, I think we're done with this the MGS4 stuff then.

You were done a long time ago, my old friend.

 

[Mackins]

Despite the resolution, I'm actually quite impressed with how it looks on last-gen hardware.

It looks great, but there's actually a part of me which prefers how the ground looks on the PS3 version (aside from resolution of course).

Am I crazy?

No, you're not crazy, I prefer PS3 mud too, I know technically it's not the best but it does just look like wet sloppy mud! Haha. It might look different in motion though so I reserve judgement.

 

[NCell]

It is kind of funny though. The ground textures are much sharper and detailed in the PS4 screenshot, but I actually think the blurred and less detailed texture work in the PS3 screenshot looks more realistic. The mud has a really soggy and wet look to it. It could be just that screenshot though.

Yeah on the PS3 it looks like mud, on the PS4 it looks like dirt. So I'd prefer PS4 definition but with mud instead of dirt

 

[Betty]

So it's just the back covers between ntsc and pal regions that are different, figured as much.

 

[Broder Salsa]

Despite the resolution, I'm actually quite impressed with how it looks on last-gen hardware.

It looks great, but there's actually a part of me which prefers how the ground looks on the PS3 version (aside from resolution of course).

Am I crazy?

You are not, I already posted my expert analysis in here which shows a clear conclusion.

Never forget:

Wait, why did he say this? lol

 

[CambriaRising]

No, you're not crazy, I prefer PS3 mud too, I know technically it's not the best but it does just look like wet sloppy mud! Haha. It might look different in motion though so I reserve judgement.

It almost just looks like the Gamma setting is higher in the Ps4 shot.

 

[rvy]

No, you're not crazy, I prefer PS3 mud too, I know technically it's not the best but it does just look like wet sloppy mud! Haha. It might look different in motion though so I reserve judgement.

It looks like mud. PS4 version looks like mud created by a scientist in a lab.

 

[Horsemama1956]

Going off the screens the game looks pretty crappy on all platforms..

 

[nded]

Really? I have the one that came with the MGS4 PS3 bundle on release day (the release day of the bundle) and it says 1080p on it.

Yeah, just chiming in to say this guy's not crazy and my box also says it 'supports' 1080p. Doesn't mean native 1080p though, probably just bullshit like every 360 box that says 1080p on the back.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Repost for next page-

Let's remind ourselves how MGS4 looked! All directfeeds:

Man What I would do to see

On PS4

 

[giancarlo123x]

Going off the screens the game looks pretty crappy on all platforms..

You're sitting a little too close to the monitor.

 

[FuturusX]

Never forget:

That's a joke right? I mean he didn't really make that mistake did he?

 

[Kazuma Kiryu]

That's a joke right? I mean he didn't really make that mistake did he?

People have already mentioned it was real.

 

[Amir0x]

of course he did, FuturusX. And it wasn't a mistake - just one in a long line of comments meant to confuse the less connected into the industry about what's going on. They've been doing it this entire lead into the new gen. They are literally playing off people's ignorance, and they know it.

 

[Mackins]

It does look like the PS4 version is more like wet sand based dirt and that the PS3 version looks like that due to limitations of the hardware but actually turned out great.
I just hope we leave footprints in it and can track guards by following their footprints. There's nothing worse than great graphics but no footprints left behind, it kinda breaks immersion. I'm kinda exaggerating about the nothing worse part by the way before someone calls me out on it.

 

[SJRB]

That's a joke right? I mean he didn't really make that mistake did he?

It was real but he got the beatdown from the community pretty fast and had to rectify.